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Johnny Dickshot
Jun 06 2005 07:39 PM

I thought it over and my top 3 are:

Pelfrey -- 6-7 college power pitcher
Clements -- LH-hitting catcher with power but ? D
Hansen -- Might help this year and we're still in it, dammit.

I'll take leftovers if the top fellas fall for some reason, but we're getting just 1 high-level pick this year so he better RAWK.

Draft starts tommorrow, 12:30 on


Jun 06 2005 10:04 PM

Gammons pre-draft column.[/url]

Jun 06 2005 10:26 PM

Why can't teams trade Draft Picks?,some teams that get to pick high have no chance to sign a player because they can't afford the Bonus money, if they could trade the pick the smaller market teams could get major league players for high picks.

Frayed Knot
Jun 06 2005 11:47 PM

Texas HS OFer Jay Bruce is also reportedly high on the Mets' radar.

Hansen was pressed into starting during a playoff game this past weekend (St John's #1 guy got injured) and reportedly dazzled:
"Opened eyes with dominating performance Friday in just his fourth college start, hitting 97 mph with his fastball and upper 80s with his slider; his slider topped out at 90"

The thought is that the ability to trade draft picks would hurt low ranking/cash poor teams even more as it would give top players an additional hammer to force those teams to trade their rights away by merely threatening to hold out for top dollar.

Jun 06 2005 11:53 PM

that makes sense, thanks Frayed Knot, I imagine Boras would be even more demanding, I understand he's the agent for a few players the Mets are thinking about,Hansen being one.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 09:48 AM

BA's final Draft Tracker:


Can someone with access post their final 1st-round projection or at least tell us who the Mets are getting?

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 10:10 AM

Those scouting writeups are a marvel of efficiency. Here's the guys the Mets are looking at:

Jay Bruce Westbrook HS CF L/L 6'3" 195 1987-04-03 HS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: Large frame. Broad, sloped shoulders. Body similar to a young Larry Walker. Aggressive, stroke w/ strength & lift for power. Loose, strong wrists w/ flick. Ball jumps off bat. Loose arm. Plus OF instincts. Five-tool player. Complete package.

Jeffrey Clement U Southern California C L/R 6'1" 210 1983-08-21 4YR 56K | 350K
COMMENT: Good upper body strength. Muscular arms. Similar to Tyler Houston. Short, compact stroke. Gamer, plays w/ intensity.

Michael Pelfrey Wichita St U RHP R/R 6'7" 210 1984-01-14 4YR 56K | 350K
COMMENT: Tall RHP w/ long limbs. Throws a FB that bores into hitters when up in the zone, sinks when down in the zone. Throws a power CB w/ some slider-like action. Also has a change-up.

Jun 07 2005 10:17 AM

Has anyone come across the scouting report on Jesus? That was hysterical.

Jun 07 2005 10:17 AM

Here's our first chance to see whether Omar was blowing smoke at us when he said that he prefers players with "baseball instincts" rather than just tools. He has said that he likes guys who go up there "to hit" , which I interpret to mean that he doesn't place a very high value on OBP.

Also- will he look for a HS player to develop, or someone who is closer to the majors? With no second and thrid round picks, I would think he will go for someone more major league ready.

Should be interesting.


Jun 07 2005 10:23 AM

You can watch or listen to the draft on, starts @ 12:30.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 01:11 PM

DBaggs -- Upton
Royals -- Gordon
Mariners -- CLEMENT
Nats -- Zimmerman
Brewers -- Braun
Jays -- Romero
Rockies -- Tulowitzski

We'll get 1 of our 2!

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 01:15 PM


Jun 07 2005 01:16 PM

Mets get Michael Pelfrey from Wichita St

Jun 07 2005 01:24 PM

Tough day for Craig Hansen; he goes from possible September call-up to being passed over by both his hometown teams.

Go Seawolves!

Yancy Street Gang
Jun 07 2005 01:32 PM

A college pitcher, 21 years old.

If they sign him quickly, maybe we'll see him with the Mets in 2007 or '08.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 02:08 PM

Pelfrey's a Boras client, and the first chosen. We'll be lucky if he signs within the next 357 days.

Jun 07 2005 02:14 PM

Wide with the Mets signing Beltran you'd think the Mets and Boras would have a good relationship, I would hope that would count for something here.

Edgy DC
Jun 07 2005 02:21 PM

Pelfrey previously went in the eleventh round 434th overall, to Tampa Bay, who failed to sign him out of high school.

He wore number 41 in college that can't be bad! He's a military brat. He was born January 14, 1984, when the AP was announcing John Riggins being elected NFL MVP. Davey Johnson was preparing for his first season.

41 -
Mike Pelfrey

6-7, 210, Jr., Pitcher
Wichita, Kan. (Heights HS)
Bats Right, Throws Right


Played summer ball for Team USA and the Wichita (Kan.) Braves.

Made 16 appearances with 16 starts including five complete games…Went 11-2 with a 2.18 ERA…Pitched 115 1/3 innings with 125 strikeouts…Named a second team All-American by Baseball America, Collegiate Baseball, Sports Weekly,, and the American Baseball Coaches Association and a third team All-American by the National Collegiate Baseball Writers Association...Named all-Valley first team and Valley Pitcher-of-the-Year…Named first team all-Midwest Region…Named to the all-Regional team at the Fayetteville Regional…Named honorable mention all-Valley Scholar-Athlete…Named a semifinalist for the Roger Clemens Award…Named Valley Pitcher-of-the-Week on April 19 and May 17…Finished second in the Valley in ERA and first in strikeouts…Finished 20th nationally in ERA…Tied his career-high with nine innings against Southern Illinois on April 16 and against SMS on May 14…Struck out a career-high 14 against Missouri on June 4…Earned wins against Sam Houston State, Northern Iowa, Indiana State, Illinois State, Southern Illinois, Bradley, UCLA, Creighton, SMS, Evansville and Missouri…Combined for shutouts against Bradley on April 24 and against Missouri on June 4…In the Shocker record books his 2004 numbers ranked fifth in fewest walks per nine innings (1.9), fifth in strikeouts (125), 12th in fewest hits per nine innings (6.7) and 16th in ERA (2.18)…In the Shocker career record books he is currently second in ERA (2.33), first in fewest walks per nine innings (1.6), third in fewest hits per nine innings (6.8) and 19th in strikeouts (223)…Participated in the Team USA Trials...Named to the AD’s honor roll for Fall 2003.

Made 17 appearances with 16 starts...Went 10-2 with a 2.49 ERA...Pitched 104 2/3 innings with 98 strikeouts...Named Valley Freshman-of-the-Year and all-Valley first team...Named a first team Freshman All-American by Collegiate Baseball and Baseball America...Named to the all-Midwest Region first team...Named to the all-Valley Tournament team...Named Valley Pitcher of the Week on April 7 and April 14...Pitched a season high nine innings against Indiana State on May 21...Struck out a season high 10 at SMS on May 2...Started his career with 18 consecutive scoreless innings...Threw a one-hit shutout against Indiana State on April 11...Set the Shocker record for fewest walks per nine innings in a season with 1.3...Led the Valley in ERA (2.49) and was second in strikeouts (98)...Named to AD’s honor roll for Fall 2002 and had a 4.0 GPA.

Attended Heights High School in Wichita, Kan...Lettered four years in baseball and one year in basketball...In baseball, was named the 2001 Kansas Gatorade Player-of-the-Year, a 2001 Rawlings District V All-American, 2002 Proline Kansas Player-of-the-Year and 2002 Preseason first team All-American by Baseball America and Collegiate Baseball...Named first team all-city and all-state in 2001 and 2002...Broke career strikeout record at Heights that former WSU pitcher Erich Bryan held...During high school career, team captured one city league championship, four regional championships, four state tournament appearances and one runner-up finish...Drafted in the 15th round of the 2002 draft by Tampa Bay.

Son of Stan and Anna Madden of Augusta, Kan…Born Jan. 14, 1984 at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio…Has two brothers, Chris and Greg…Is majoring in sport administration at WSU…Also recruited by Arizona State, Miami, Georgia Tech and Nebraska, among others.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 02:23 PM

This year won;t matter much anyway, since he's already pitched a full college season, they'd prolly shut him down till the fall anyhow.

Hansen to Red Sox.

Boras other stud pitcher, Hochevar, falls all the way to the Dodgers picking in the supplemental round, 40th overall.

Jun 07 2005 02:31 PM

As for Jesus, that was me, but I can't find a copy of my post on CPF. I could try and recreate it, I suppose, but it'd just make me sad for the tragic loss of our Archives . . .

Jun 07 2005 02:32 PM

here he is, future star for the Mets.

Jun 07 2005 02:46 PM

Goddamn, but the Sox have a lot of 1st round picks.

Yankees take James Cox, who's a college righty that only gets up to 87/88. Interesting. He's a big boy, so maybe their thinking he'll be able to get the velocity up there . . .

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 02:48 PM

"I like Cox and Wang," Jeter said.

Jun 07 2005 02:51 PM

Yankees take shortstop C.J. Henry from Oklahoma City with the 17th pick, highest overall pick for them since 1993.

Henry batted .481 last season with 13 home runs, 41 RBIs and 21 stolen bases with Oklahoma's Putnam City H.S

Jun 07 2005 02:55 PM

They may get an even higher pick nexty year, if they keep this up . . .

Jun 07 2005 03:05 PM

That would be a shame if it was lost Rotblatt - that was hysterical.

Jun 07 2005 03:14 PM

Hard to argue with 6'7" and a 97-mph fastball.

Jun 07 2005 03:33 PM
Meet pelfrey

Haven't read it just yet, but here is an Hardball Times interview with him from last year


Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 03:39 PM

We take P.R. 2B Hector Pellet with our second pick, No. 119 overall.

Jun 07 2005 03:44 PM

Hecked her pellet? I don't even know her!

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 03:53 PM

He's only seventeen. SEV-EN-TEEEEN!

5'11, 184.


DOB: 1987-02-08

Medium frame. Good proportioned. Athletic, wiry build. Similar to Jose Valentin. Slight upper-cut swing generates bat speed w/ occasional unexpected power. Aggressive at plate. Has a good eye. Range equal both ways. Can steal a base, aggressive. Leadership qualities.

Jun 07 2005 03:56 PM

Does anyone have the link to the whole draft, as it's happening? Is it anywhere other than BA? I don't have a BA account.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 04:01 PM has a java thingy where the picks sorta appear on the screen. It['s called draftscape or somnething.

Meet Mr. Pellot, ranked 4th best prospect in Puerto Rico:
4. Héctor Pellot - SS - 5'11/185 - R/R - Caguas, PR
No prospect on the island has improved his draft status in the past month as  much as Pellot. Pellot stood out at this week's Puerto Rico showcase, running a 6.6 60 yard dash and having a solid BP. On the second day of the event the right-handed hitting Pellot showcased his power by hitting a double off the right field fence that almost left the yard. At shortstop, Pellot shows outstanding actions and a strong arm. He just needs to be a bit more consistent. Pellot was also outstanding in last month's PG World Showcase in Florida.

Jun 07 2005 04:03 PM

MLB has live raido of the draft, D-Backs with pick 141 on now, I foget who they picked.KC on the board now...they picked Sean Hayes.

Jun 07 2005 04:08 PM

The guy from "Will & Grace"!?! I didn't even know he played.

(just kidding)

Yancy Street Gang
Jun 07 2005 04:26 PM

Well, he was just seventeen
If you know what I mean

I didn't know you could draft someone before his 18th birthday. I guess the rule figures in the high school graduation year somehow.

I turned 18 a month before I graduated. If I was born three months later, and had talent, then it makes sense that I could have been drafted that same June.

Jun 07 2005 04:26 PM

And with the 149th pick, the Mets select:
Andrew Butera U Central Florida C R/R 6'1" 190 1983-08-09 4YR 56K | 350K

COMMENT: Athletic frame. Wiry upper body. Similar to Jason Kendall. Level, line drive stroke. Fair bat speed. Solid arm w/ carry through bag. Quick release. Sure-handed receiver. Frames well. Flexible behind dish. Future plus arm strength. Blocks well. Son of ex-ML, Sal Butera.

Sal Butera. Were there any Witnesses? (or was that Sam butera?)


Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 04:28 PM

In Round 5 we get Andrew Butera, son of former MLB catcher Sal Butera.

Known as one of the best defensive catchers around.

College bio

Jun 07 2005 04:29 PM

I was a college Freshman at 16. I had been scouted by the Cards as a catcher while in high school (and had pitched, too). Unfortunately, by the time I reached college, I had suffered a shoulder injury that put a major stop to my career. It was worthy of the stupid injuries thread - I hurt it playing touch football.



Jun 07 2005 04:39 PM

I heard you hurt your shoulder carrying groceries up the stairs.

Jun 07 2005 04:40 PM

Mets raise Cain with pick #4: Jeremy Cain, a high school outfielder.

Jun 07 2005 04:43 PM

Andrew Butera, C, U Central Florida, 6'1" 190 lbs

We have the same birthday--August 9, but he's a little younger--1983.

COMMENT: Athletic frame. Wiry upper body. Similar to Jason Kendall. Level, line drive stroke. Fair bat speed. Solid arm w/ carry through bag. Quick release. Sure-handed receiver. Frames well. Flexible behind dish. Future plus arm strength. Blocks well. Son of ex-ML, Sal Butera.

He was originally drafted in the 48th round of the 2002 amateur draft by the Blue Jays, but elected to go to college instead.

We needed a catcher--seems like a nice pick, and it sounds like he fell farther than expected. Here's his webpage. It's pretty weak.

John Manuel from BA answering a question about Butera:

] Q: Kiley from Odessa, FL asks:
What is the buzz on UCF's catcher Drew Butera? It sounds like he moved from the 5th-7th area preseason to the 2nd-3rd area at midseason and he continues to hit well. How high could he go and how do scouts grade his tools?

A: John Manuel: Butera's like his dad, a really good defender who should go higher than his talent really merits because of the demand for college catchers in the draft. I don't think he's going to go much higher than the third round, but he's probably the second-best catch-and-throw guy out there after Taylor Teagarden, and he stopped Troy's Adam Godwin, who was 69-for-75 coming into the series with UCF and went 0-for-2 on steals against Butera.

Butera was #78 on BA's 2005 early draft preview.

Jun 07 2005 04:47 PM

Butera is apostophe-illiterate. Drop him immediately. (He's apparently also a Blue Jays, NY Giants, and Islanders fan, which is a bizarre combination.)

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 04:48 PM

Gregory Cain Gahr HS CF R/R 6'1" 205 1987-05-01 HS 56K | 350K
COMMENT: Strong, powerful, athletic physique. Broad back, shoulders. Similar to Adrian Beltre. Quick, compact swing. Generates excellent bat speed. Line drive hitter w/ power. ML arm w/ excellent on-line carry. Loose, easy arm action. Sure handed OF. Chance to be five-tool guy.

On that description, which tool is he missing?

Jun 07 2005 04:55 PM

With the 209th overall pick in the 2005 MLB Draft, the New York Mets select...

Jonathon Niese, a 6'3" LHP from Defiance HS in Ohio.

Jun 07 2005 04:57 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
On that description, which tool is he missing?

Sounds like it could be either hit for average or speed. But since he plays CF, consistent contact might be the right answer.


Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 05:33 PM

Round 7: High school lefty Jonathan Niese
Round 8: Sean McCraw, junior college catcher
Round 9: College righty Robert Parnell

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 05:39 PM

Round 10: JC outfielder Courtney Billingslea

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 05:53 PM

This is hard to believe, but Bobby Parnell is a college reliever with an 8+_ ERA.

Robert Parnell Charleston Southern U RHP R/R 6'3" 180 1984-09-08 4YR  
COMMENT: Quirky delivery and solid FB. Could be an effective reliever. Medium frame. Lanky. Gaining confidence.


Yancy Street Gang
Jun 07 2005 06:34 PM


Jun 07 2005 07:25 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
This is hard to believe, but Bobby Parnell is a college reliever with an 8+_ ERA.


Yeah, but Peterson can fix him in 10 minutes.


Jun 07 2005 09:39 PM

I didn't and don't like the trade, but are we not through with the ten minute Peterson jokes yet?

Jun 07 2005 10:31 PM

yeah it's getting old Elster88, look at the Mets pitching staff of late, someone is doing his job.

Jun 07 2005 10:46 PM

This just in...

Boras assures Mets that Pelfrey will sign...

by the eve of next year's draft.

Frayed Knot
Jun 07 2005 11:05 PM

[u:5316eea516]Day 1 Summary[/u:5316eea516]

1) Michael Pelfrey - RHP Wichita St.
4) Hector Pellot SS/2B - Puerto Rico BB Academy HS
5) Andrew Butera C - UCF
6) Greg Cain CF - (HS)
7) Jonathan Niese LHP - (HS)
8) Sean McCraw C - San Jacinto Col North
9) Robert Parnell RHP - Charleston Southern.
10) Courtney Billingslea LF - Sinclair CC
11) Luis Martinez RF - Jackson State CC
12) Matthew Spath CF - (HS)
13) Joshua Thole C - (HS)
14) Ian Marshall RHP - (HS)
15) Daniel Martin RHP - (HS)
16) Eric Domangue LHP - Alvin CC
17) Pedro Beato RHP - (HS)
18) Eric Brown RHP - Wingate College

8 Pitchers (2 LHP, 6 RHP)
4 OFers
3 Catchers
1 2B/SS

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 07 2005 11:22 PM

Pedro Beato


Edgy DC
Jun 07 2005 11:35 PM

Maybe it's the Darvon talking, but picking a guy with an absolutely disastrous ERA just because you spot something you can work with is so nadly I've got to stand up and salute.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 08 2005 12:12 AM

I'm with ya.

Here are the #s:

3-5, 8.85, 43.2 IP, 53 H, 43 R, 29 BB, >>>>45 K,<<<<< .330 BAA, 13 wild pitches!

Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2005 09:21 AM
But I'm a legacy, they have to take me ...

Good day for kids of former big-leaguers:

Drafted in the first 2 rounds were:
John Mayberry Jr., son of former Royal John Mayberry;
Eli Iorg, son of former Blue Jay Garth Iorg, nephew of Dane;
Kris Harvey, son of former Marlin Bryan Harvey;
Ivan DeJesus, son of former Cub Ivan DeJesus;
Jared Lansford, son of former A's third baseman Carney Lansford

Also later on:
Scott Van Slyke (probably headed to college) - son of Andy
and - by the Dodgers in Round 13; Steven Johnson, son of former player & manager Davey

Jun 08 2005 09:22 AM

Sounds like Ricky Vaughn.

Jun 08 2005 09:50 AM

]Stony Brook, N.Y. - Stony Brook baseball players Andrew Larsen and Jon Lewis were selected on the first day of the Major League Baseball Amateur Draft on Tuesday afternoon. Larsen was drafted by the Kansas City Royals in the 13th round while Lewis was picked by the Florida Marlins in the 16th round. The seniors are the first Seawolves to be picked in the draft since Chris Flinn and Alex Trezza were each selected in 2001.

Larsen was the first of the duo picked as the Royals took the gritty senior center fielder in the 13th round with the 382nd overall pick. Larsen finished his Stony Brook career ranked first in school history in games played, at bats and doubles while setting a single season SB mark for doubles this season with 25, which ranked him fourth in the entire nation in doubles per game.

Lewis was selected three rounds later with the 486th overall pick by the Florida Marlins. The senior right hander concluded one of the finest careers on the pitching mound in Stony Brook history this year, leaving SB as the Seawolves' all-time leader in wins and innings pitched while tying the career strikeout record with fellow SB draftee Chris Flinn.

Both Seawolves were instrumental in the Brook's run last season to the first America East baseball championship and Division I NCAA Tournament appearance in school history.

Let's go Seawolves!

Vic Sage
Jun 08 2005 10:27 AM
SB won a title?

I had no idea my alma mater was any good!
I guess spending all that money on a new stadium and field house has paid off.

It was still a stupid waste of resources, but what the hey.

go Patriots.... um... i mean... go WOLVES!

what the hell is a seawolf anyway?


Edgy DC
Jun 08 2005 05:34 PM

FPC's Spath drafted by Mets; Rangers pick DBCC's Fontaine

Staff Writer

Last update: June 08, 2005

As Matt Spath toiled through his senior season at Flagler Palm Coast High School, he heard from no pro scouts, no Division I colleges.

"The only school I really heard from was St. Johns (River Community College)," Spath said. "I guess I have to call them now and tell them I won't be going."

It's not that Spath doesn't appreciate the interest when other baseball coaches and scouts were ignoring him, it's just that everything has changed now.

N-J/Brian Myrick
Matt Spath throws against Lake Howell in 2004.
The New York Mets drafted the outfielder Tuesday in the 12th round, 359th overall. He expects to sign as soon as possible.

"I always told everybody I was going to play pro ball out of high school," Spath said. "I don't know if anybody believed me."

Daytona Beach Community College also had one current player, as well as an incoming freshman, selected on the first day of the draft....

...(blah, blah, blah, stuff about somebody else's prospect)...

...Spath fell through the scouting cracks until he showed up at an all-star camp in Sebring three weeks ago. He went 6-for-7 in two games there and soon heard from 15 major league clubs.

The Mets, led by scout Anthony Campanella, were in the forefront. Campanella, the father of Seabreeze's baseball coach, is an old family friend of the Spaths.

"I worked out for the Mets, sat down and talked with them a bunch of times and they called and kept in touch -- more than anybody else," Spath said.

Spath was the fourth outfielder the Mets selected Tuesday, the second directly out of high school.

"I was a Marlins fan but I'd have to say I'm a Mets fan now," said Spath, who will likely report to the Mets camp in Port St. Lucie next week to prepare for the Rookie League.

Meanwhile, Stetson's John DeStefano and several other area college players will have to wait until today in hopes of hearing their names called. One player who probably won't be picked today is former DBCC third baseman Marquez Smith.

Smith, who has signed with Clemson, recently turned down a sizable bonus offer from the Los Angeles Angels after completing his sophomore season with the Falcons. The Angels drafted him in the 46th round last year.

"He told teams he wants to go to Clemson," Touma said of the Mid-Florida Conference player of the year. "I thought he'd go pretty early, but now there's no reason to take him. Next year will be a different story though. Your junior year is your last year of leverage."

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 08 2005 11:32 PM

Here's everyone:
Rnd Pk Overall Player Position School State Bonus
1 9 9 Mike Pelfrey rhp Wichita State U. KS
4 9 119 Hector Pellot 2b Puerto Rico Baseball Academy, Cidra, P.R. PR
5 9 149 Drew Butera c U. of Central Florida FL
6 9 179 Greg Cain of Gahr HS, Cerritos, Calif. CA
7 9 209 Jon Niese LHP Defiance (Ohio) HS OH
8 9 239 Sean McCraw C San Jacinto (Texas) JC TX
9 9 269 Bobby Parnell rhp Charleston Southern U. SC
10 9 299 Courtney Billingslea OF Sinclar (Ohio) CC OH
11 9 329 Luis Martinez c Jackson State (Tenn.) CC TN
12 9 359 Matthew Spath of Flagler Palm Coast HS, Bunnell, Fla. FL
13 9 389 Josh Thole c Mater Dei HS, Breese, Ill. IL
14 9 419 Ian Marshall RHP Gaithersburg (Md.) HS MD
15 9 449 Daniel Martin RHP Harleton HS, Marshall, Texas TX
16 9 479 Eric Domangue lhp Alvin (Texas) JC TX
17 9 509 Pedro Beato RHP Xaverian HS, Queens, N.Y. NY
18 9 539 Eric Brown rhp Wingate (N.C.) U. NC
19 9 569 Tim Grogan 3b Western Kentucky U. KY
20 9 599 Cody Railsback rhp Ryan HS, Denton, Texas TX
21 9 629 Joe Holden OF Molloy (N.Y.) College NY
22 9 659 Preston Paramore c Allen (Texas) HS TX
23 9 689 Joe D'Alessandro rhp College of New Jersey NJ
24 9 719 Kyle Risinger RHP Galveston (Texas) CC TX
25 9 749 D.J. Wabick 1b College of Charleston SC
26 9 779 Kevin Tomasiewicz LHP U. of Wisconsin-Whitewater WI
27 9 809 David Koons rhp St. Leo (Fla.) College FL
28 9 839 Greg Gonzalez of Chico State (Calif.) U. CA
29 9 869 Sal Aguilar RHP Lewis-Clark State (Idaho) College ID
30 9 899 Steven Holquin rhp Porterville (Calif.) JC CA
31 9 929 Matt Anderson 3b UC Irvine CA
32 9 959 Jose Castro SS Miami-Dade CC North FL
33 9 989 Daniel Arizmendi lhp Santa Ana (Calif.) JC CA
34 9 1019 Joseph Mihalics 2B U. of Buffalo NY
35 9 1049 Michael Sharpe of St. Thomas Aquinas College NY
36 9 1079 Jeramy Simmons rhp U. of South Alabama AL
37 9 1109 Alexis Beras RHP U. of Scranton (Pa.) PA
38 9 1139 Pierre Miville-Deschenes rhp Edouard Montpetit HS CN
39 9 1169 Colin Thomson rhp Mountain View HS, Tucson AZ
40 9 1198 Jacob Blackwood 2B Maplewoods (Mo.) CC MO
41 9 1227 Nick Carr rhp Twin Falls (Idaho) HS ID
42 9 1256 Jared Barkdoll C Greencastle-Antrim HS, Greencastle, Pa. PA
43 9 1285 Javier Brown ss Valhalla HS, El Cajon, Calif. CA
44 9 1314 Phillip Pursino c St. Dominic HS, Stewart Manor, N.Y. NY
45 9 1343 Anthony Manuel 2B Biola (Calif.) U. CA
46 9 1372 Peter Tountas SS Maine South HS, Park Ridge, Ill. IL
47 9 1401 Samuel Lane rhp Pedro Menendez HS, Elkton, Fla. FL
48 9 1429 Jeremy Hefner rhp Seminole State (Okla.) JC OK
49 9 1456 Will Jostock rhp Pensacola (Fla.) JC FL
50 9 1483 Julio Rodriguez OF Wabash Valley (Ill.) JC IL

Some stuff:

Round 23: Joe D'Alessandro of New Jersey has a lame web page here:

For a closeup of that picture (blackmailable!) see here:

Round 38:

Meet Pierre from Montreal. Here's an article about him:


Frayed Knot
Jun 08 2005 11:43 PM

Meet Joe Holden, local boy - both HS & college - and your 21st round draft pick:

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 09 2005 07:15 AM

Anthony Manuel is Jerry's son.

Jun 09 2005 10:31 AM

Why does it jump from round 1 to round 4? No second or third round picks this year?

Edgy DC
Jun 09 2005 10:37 AM


Part of the price of signing free agents.

Edgy DC
Jun 09 2005 10:42 AM

Thirty-fifth-rounder Michael Sharpe is also a local boy.

Vic Sage
Jun 09 2005 12:03 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 10 2005 11:41 AM

It's never too early to start working on nicknames:

Mike "bats in the" Pelfrey - Batboy
Hector Pellot "fighter" - Pills
Drew "knocks em on their" Butera - The Buttonman
Greg "Sugar" Cain - Sweetness
Jon "No, you may not dance with my" Niese - Dancer
Sean "Quickdraw" McCraw - Quick
Bobby "Pardner" Parnell - Cowboy
Courtney "Barbara' Billingslea - Babs
Luis "teddy" Martinez - Teddy Bear
Matthew "primrose" Spath - Rosie
Josh "Ath" Thole - Leo the Lithp
Ian Marshall "Dillon" - Sheriff
Daniel "Dean" Martin - Crooner
Eric "Lemon" Domangue - The Pieman
Pedro Beato "You over the head-o" - The Beast
Eric "No Neck" Brown - Downtown Leroy Brown
Tim 'Steve" Grogan - QB
Cody "Rides the" Railsback - Choo Choo
Joe Holden "on for dear life" - Gripper
Preston Paramore "to open, trips to win" - Loverboy
Joe "Warhol" D'Alessandro - Soupcan
Kyle "i see a bad moon" Risinger - Moony
D.J. "kill the" Wabick - Fudd
Kevin Tomasiewicz - Gezhundteit
David "Cal" Koons - Cal
Greg "Speedy" Gonzalez - Speedy
Sal "adoc" Aguilar - Black Cloud
Steven Holquin - Dutch
Matt "Mr." Anderson - Neo
Jose Castro "Convertible" - Sleeper
Daniel Arizmendi - A-rab
Joseph "Taj" Mihalics - Taj
Michael "ain't too" Sharpe - Dummy Hoy
Jeramy "Ted" Simmons - Little Ted
Alexis "Yogi" Beras - Bear
"Gay" Pierre Miville-Deschenes - Frenchy
Colin "all cars" Thomson - Tommygun
Jacob "Sportin" Blackwood - Stick
Nick "stolen" Carr - Hotwire
Jared "Barbie's dog" Barkdoll - Pooch
Javier "long neck" Brown - Chug
Phillip Pursino "cherry" - Cherry
Anthony Manuel "labor" - Digger
Peter "Poca" Tountas - Chief
Samuel "Penny" Lane - Rockstar
Jeremy "Hugh" Hefner - Playboy
Will Jostock"s and bonds" - Willie B
Julio Rodriguez - J-Rod

Jun 09 2005 12:08 PM

Impressive work, Vic!

Jun 09 2005 12:19 PM

All right, who invited Chris Berman?

Edgy DC
Jun 09 2005 02:32 PM

How about that freakin' Jon Heyman, who had the Mets getting Pelfrey on his card?

Frayed Knot
Jun 09 2005 02:44 PM

Hey how 'bout Baseball America? -- in a draft that deals with players of varying ages & backgrounds (HS, college Jrs & Srs, Juco, returning non-signees, etc) who are distributed (w/o trades) to teams with widely disparate budgets - BA called the first 18 picks in correct order!!

Meanwhile, those gurus of the NFL drafts - who are predicting a draft w/none of the above variables, with game films widely available, and where bonus money is virtually dictated by the league office - routinely get 80% of the 1st round picks wrong.

Jun 09 2005 03:13 PM

Nice job, Vic.
But to those of us who remember him, there will only be one "Choo Choo".


Edgy DC
Jun 09 2005 03:21 PM

NFL prognosticators also have the advantage of knowing teams draft to fill an open position, something that almost never happens in baseball.

Edgy DC
Jun 09 2005 03:40 PM

Mihalic: Yankee fan

]Mihalics ready to meet the Mets
Jack Karlis
Thursday, June 09, 2005

BUFFALO — Perhaps it’s fitting that the new era of University at Buffalo baseball at the Division I level would be marked by its all-time hits leader making it to the big time.

Tonawanda native and UB infielder Joe Mihalics was selected in the 34th round of the Major League Baseball First-Year Player Draft Wednesday, making him the first UB player to be selected since the Bulls reinstated baseball at the Division I level in 2000.

Bulls pitchers Bob Williams and Marty Cerny were both selected in the 1986 draft and shortstop Paul Daddario, selected in 1983, was the last position player to enter professional baseball.

Mihalics first heard about his future from a second-hand source.

“I was laying around all day and walked upstairs. My buddy called me and he’s telling me ‘congrats.’ My other buddy was trying to click in and he told me ‘congrats’ too,” the senior said. “I had no idea. Then, the Mets called in to let me know.”

While Mihalics was being looked at by the Cincinnati, Toronto, St. Louis and Minnesota, it was the Mets who showed the most interest. Mihalics was ranked 16th in Baseball America’s draft report of New York state prospects.

“I filled out my player info sheet and then worked out for them at Coney Island. I kind of knew,” Mihalics said. “I was one of four out of 35 that worked out that they wanted. I’ve had a lot of time to think about it. I just wanted to know what I was doing.”

Mihalics grew up a Yankees fan and his played shortstop for UB, but at this point he could care less about the uniform or position.

“They drafted me as a second baseman, but I’ll play all over,” Mihalics said. “I’ll go wherever they’ll need me — short, outfield, wherever.”

Mihalics will fly to St. Lucie, Fla., next week for a mini camp to see where he is designated. Mihalics may likely end up with the Mets’ short-season Class A affiliate in Brooklyn or their rookie ball team in Kingsport (Tenn.).

Mihalics would prefer to stay in New York state, but he’s not going to complain if heads cross country.

“I’ve gone away in the past few summers. My girlfriend Maggie will support me,” Mihalics said. “Brooklyn would be good because it’s close to home. My family and friends are all here. As long as I get to play, I don’t care.”

Mihalics will also leave his alma mater with a slew of records.

The Timon/St. Jude product was the first player in school history to reach 200 hits and finished with a .322 career average along with his school-record 234 hits. He is also the school’s all-time leader in runs (136), single-season hit (76 in 2004) and run leader (43 in 2004). Mihalics is in the top 10 in career RBI (97, fourth), triples (12, third), doubles (30, fifth) and games played (191, second).

Mihalics believes that his legacy will leave a formula for success for incoming players.

“It helps the undergrads that come in. It tells them, ‘you can make that next step at UB,’” Mihalics said.

Jun 10 2005 01:02 PM

Interesting article on Slate about the draft, also this guy points out just like Wide did about the physical descriptions given for each player...

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 12 2005 11:51 AM

Here's an article on the Mets' unusual draft choice, Bobby Parnell.

I will also use this post to adopt him as Blake's weird little brother. (Does that forum exist here yet? I will see....)

Baseball draft: Mets draft former East Rowan star Parnell

Arm-strong: The New York Mets think Bobby Parnell has unlimited potential.
Salisbury Post

Statistics aren't always worth the paper they're printed on.

Former East Rowan standout Bobby Parnell posted ugly numbers during his junior baseball season at Charleston Southern, but the New York Mets see happier days in Parnell's future.

New York selected the quiet, 6-foot-3, 175-pound fireballer in the ninth round of Tuesday's Major League Baseball First-Year Player Draft.

Parnell was the 269th overall pick.

"That's No. 269 out of about 750,000 kids that were out there," said Allen Wilson, who scouts for the Mets and coaches the South Rowan American Legion team. "I know how much the Mets like him and I know 29 other teams had him on their draft board somewhere."

Wilson recommended Parnell, despite his 3-5 record and 8.86 ERA. Parnell struck out 45 batters, while walking 29. He uncorked 13 wild pitches and plunked nine batters. The scariest stat of all might be that opposing hitters batted a robust .330 against the right-hander.

Those aren't typical draft-pick numbers, but Wilson insisted all that alarming arithmetic isn't a big deal.

"Kids can't control the team they play for," Wilson said. "Besides, no big-league team drafts stats. They draft potential, and Bobby's potential is incredible."

Bottom line?

"The Mets wouldn't be drafting him if they didn't believe he could play in the major leagues," Wilson said.

It's just a matter of everything coming together for Parnell, and the Mets believe they are the ones that can make it happen.

Parnell has several natural gifts. He has serious juice in his right arm, and he has the perfect pitcher's body. He's long, lean and loose, and he has a textbook arm-swing that unleashes fastballs that travel in excess of 90 miles an hour.

"Bobby has some things you can't teach," agreed Jim Gantt, who coached Parnell when he played for the Rowan County American Legion team. "You can't teach a kid to be tall and to throw hard."

Parnell seldom pitched at East Rowan, where he was mostly a gold-glove, rocket-armed third baseman.

He also didn't throw much for the Rowan Legion, where he was a .300-hitting first baseman for the 2002 state champions.

"Bobby pitched almost none at East, just about none for Rowan," said Wilson, who has known Parnell since the prospect was 10 years old.

"But he's always kept working. He's never given up. He got a college scholarship, and now he's a draft pick."

Gantt wasn't shocked at all that Parnell's name was called.

"The thing I always liked about Bobby is that he was always the first one at the ballpark," he said. "I'd be out there mowing grass, and I'd see him come in and I'd know it was about an hour before the team was supposed to be there.

"He always wanted to be good. Every day, he wanted to be good. You talk about desire, well, he has it. He always had it."

Parnell, who has a good slider as well as a blinding fastball, has the option of returning to Charleston Southern for his senior year, but there's a pretty good chance that he'll sign.

He would have zero bargaining power next June, but if he signs now, he can expect a substantial bonus.

The 269th pick in the draft last year was UCLA third baseman Ryan McCarthy. He signed with the Chicago White Sox for $70,000.

If Parnell does become a Met, he would most likely be assigned to the Brooklyn Cyclones of the short-season New York-Penn League.

Whatever his stats are in Brooklyn, the Mets won't be overly concerned.

They're looking at the big picture.

"I see Bobby and I see long arms and a skinny body that's gonna fill out," Wilson said. "A lot of people in the Mets organization believe in him."

Pos.: P Ht.: 6-3 Wt.: 175
Hometown: Salisbury, NC
Previous School: East Roman HS
Eligibility: Jr. Major: Undecided

Perhaps the team’s top pitching prospect in terms of the professional draft … fastball is lower 90’s … has developed better off speed pitches and had outstanding fall ... could be the team’s number one starter in 2005 …

2004: struggled with consistency en route to a 1-6 record and a 6.82 earned run average … did lead the team with two saves … best outing of the season came against nationally-ranked East Carolina on March 13 when he allowed seven hits and no earned runs in eight innings … lone victory came in relief on April 14 against The Citadel … pitched 68.2 innings, striking out 59 hitters with 47 walks ...

2003: Posted a 2-5 record with a respectable 5.03 earned run average as a true freshman ... also recorded two saves out of the bullpen ... struck out 59 hitters in 77 innings of work ... allowed only one homerun all season ... earned his first collegiate victory on February 22 against Marshall ...

High School: Prepped at East Rowan High School and was a four-year member of the varsity ... helped lead his American Legion team to the 2002 state championship ...

Personal: Born September 8, 1984 in Salisbury, North Carolina ... son of Tonya and Bob Parnell.

Start a new A-A-P Forum.... NOW!!!!

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 12 2005 01:03 PM

NOW!!!! up for adoption:

Daniel Arizmendi

SANTA ANA, CA - Santa Ana College sophomore all-America pitcher Daniel Arizmendi (Nogales HS) became the first Dons' baseball player to be selected in the 2005 Major League Baseball Draft when the New York Mets took him in the 33rd round with the 989th overall pick.

The lefthander from Nogales High School led the Dons to a share of their second consecutive Orange Empire Conference title and 17th overall. Arizmendi was named the OEC Pitcher of the Year after posting a perfect
7-0 record and a 2.65 ERA in league play. The lefthander led Santa Ana with a 9-2 overall record and a 3.25 ERA in 102.1 innings pitched. He tossed one complete game while striking out 80 and walking 53 in 16 appearances.

As a freshman in 2003, Arizmendi appeared in nine games making six starts. He finished the season with a 2-3 record with a 7.48 ERA. He gave up 27 runs in 27.2 innings and struck out 29 Taloawhile walking 26.
Handsome Matt Anderson

Junior redshirt Matt Anderson was a 31st-round pick by the New York Mets. Anderson, a two-time all-conference selection was fourth on the team with a .332 batting average. Anderson, who has played first base and third for the Anteaters, was also a designated hiter and was tied for second with 64 hits and tied for the No. 2 spot in the Big West with 18 doubles. Anderson was a Big West Player of the Week this season, was tied for second with four home runs and fourth on the team with 10 stolen bases. Anderson is fifth in the UCI career records with a .350 average over three years. His 18 doubles this season give him 48 and move him into second in the career records and he belted 13 home runs (No. 5) during his tenure. Anderson is also in the top 10 of the UCI season annals. He batted .379 (10th), recorded 59 games played (t-6th), recorded 239 at bats (6th), scored 57 runs (6th) and amassed 91 hits (2nd) all during his freshman campaign. Anderson joins former second baseman Matt Fisher, who was a 33rd-round selection by the Mets in 2004.

Tomasiewicz Picked in MLB Draft

University of Wisconsin-Whitewater lefthander Kevin Tomasiewicz was selected in the 26th round of the Major League Baseball draft by the New York Mets Wednesday, June 8. Tomasiewicz went 15-1 with a 2.83 earned run average in 2005. Tomasiewicz set school and Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference records for both wins in a season (15 in 2005) and career (35). He went 35-5 over his four years at UW-Whitewater. He also led all National Collegiate Athletic Association Division III pitchers in wins in 2005. For his career, Tomasiewicz is also UW-W's record holder for innings pitched, and he is among the top five in the school record book for walks per nine innings, strikeouts and ERA. He was named Second Team Division III All-American by the American Baseball Coaches Association in 2005.
edit: Huge photo edited out!

Edgy DC
Jun 12 2005 01:57 PM

[code:1]"Kids can't control the team they play for," Wilson said. [/code:1]

Well yes, to some extent, they can.

Besides, how relevant is that to an 8.84 ERA?

]"Besides, no big-league team drafts stats. They draft potential, and Bobby's potential is incredible."

That's not really what I hear.

Jun 12 2005 02:06 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
]"Kids can't control the team they play for," Wilson said.

Well yes, to some extent, they can.
Besides, how relevant is that to an 8.84 ERA?

The problem is that every time he pitched, all seven fielders would all bunch up around second base, which meant everything down either line was just an inside-the-park home run. It's tough, being a pitcher in that situation. You're bound to give up runs.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 12 2005 02:16 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 12 2005 02:21 PM

Who speaks French? What does this say?

La défaite va à la fiche de Pierre Miville Deschênes, qui a été repêché hier par les Mets de New York. En quatre manches, il a permis six points, dont quatre mérités.


Jun 12 2005 02:20 PM

According to the Web translator, it says:

The defeat goes to the card of Pierre Miville Deschênes, who was fished out yesterday by the Mets of New York. In four handles, it allowed six points, including four deserved.

Translated from that to baseball:

Deschenes, who was drafted by the Mets yesterday, took the loss, giving up six runs (four earned) in four innings.

edit: I like the Web translation better.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 14 2005 12:39 PM

John Sickels on the Mets (thx nyfs)

Mets Draft Review

By John Sickels
June 12, 2005 -

The problem for the Mets in this draft is the big gap early: with no second or third-round picks, the Mets have to be damn sure they pick the right people in the middle rounds, or risk a negative impact on farm system depth. How did they do? Let’s find out.

The focus here is on the balance between risk and reward for each pick. The ETAs should not be taken especially seriously at this point, and are more of a guide to readiness than anything.

1) Mike Pelfrey, RHP, Wichita State University        
    Undaunted by a potential tangle with uberagent Scott Boras, the Mets selected Wichita State right-hander Mike Pelfrey with the ninth overall pick. Pelfrey is at least as good as 2004 first-rounder Phil Humber; most believe that Pelfrey has a higher ceiling, and he certainly would not have fallen this far in the draft without the Boras factor. It may take awhile, but it’s hard to see how Pelfrey won’t sign eventually, given that finances should not be a factor for a New York franchise. In scouting terms, Pelfrey offers everything you want: velocity, command, physical size, intelligence, emotional maturity. His fastball hits the mid-90s, with movement. He’s refined his breaking ball and changeup, and he throws strikes. If he stays healthy, Pelfrey should develop into an impact starter. ETA: late 2006-2007.
4) Hector Pellot, SS-2B, Puerto Rico Baseball Academy
    A 5-11, 185 pound infielder, Pellot is athletic and toolsy and has been compared to Jose Valentin. There is mixed opinion about his chances. Some people think he will hit for power in time, while others believe he will max out as a gap hitter and never be much of an offensive force. He’s rather raw on defense, particularly with his throws, but he runs well and should be fine defensively with more experience. It boils down to his hitting, and that is uncertain at this point. A rather risky selection, given the lack of picks above him, but he does have upside. ETA: 2010+.

5) Drew Butera, C, University of Central Florida
     The son of former Major League catcher Sal Butera, Drew Butera is similar to his father, who was a good-field/no-hit catcher for the Twins, Expos, and Reds. Drew is an excellent defender with great quickness behind the plate, an accurate arm, and a good rapport with pitchers. His hitting is better than his dad’s, although that’s not saying much. Sal hit .227/.302/.295 in 359 career games, while Drew should be able to hit 20-30 points higher than that with more power. He’ll never be a significant offensive force, but his glovework should move him up the ladder quickly. Low risk due to his defense, but not a lot of offensive upside. ETA: 2007-2008.

6) Greg Cain, OF, Gahr HS, Cerritos, California
    A toolsy outfielder from California, Cain did not get huge attention before the draft, but offers significant upside. His two best current tools are speed and arm strength. He is physically strong, but right now his swing doesn’t translate that strength into game power that often. But his plate discipline appears workable, and with time and experience he could develop into a solid player, perhaps similar to a young Ron Gant. He is praised for his work ethic, which can only help of course. I think he is a sleeper, but the Mets will need to be patient. ETA: 2010+.

7) Jon Niese, LHP, Defiance HS, Defiance, Ohio
    A projectable left-hander, Niese is the kind of guy who could have gone a few rounds higher if he’d had the same exposure as a California or Florida kid, but he is well-known to Midwest scouts and is one of the best pitchers in recent Ohio high school history. His fastball sits at 86-88 MPH, but should get faster in time, and he mixes it well with a slider, a curve, and a splitter he uses like a changeup. Scouts also like his pitching instincts, intelligence, and feel for the game. He will have to be bought away from college at Cincinnati, but rumor has it that that shouldn’t be too difficult. Personally, I think this is a great pick in the seventh round. ETA: 2009-2010.

8) Sean McCraw, C, San Jacinto JC (Texas)
    On a national basis, college and high school baseball talents get a lot more attention than they did fifteen years ago. But the junior college ranks are often overlooked, not so much by professional teams and scouts (who follow them closely of course), but by fans and the media. McCraw went 2-3 rounds sooner than expected, but he has a power bat from the left side, and enough athleticism that he should be able to remain behind the plate if the Mets are patient with him. ETA: 2009.

9) Bobby Parnell, RHP, Charleston Southern University
    First, the bad news. Parnell posted a horrendous 8.86 ERA for Charleston Southern this year, allowing 62 hits in 44 innings. The good news is that college statistics are often not predictive, and that Parnell did manage to strike out a hitter per inning, which is a positive marker. He has a low 90s fastball, but is still working on his off-speed pitches and his control. If he can sharpen his command and develop something to go with the fastball, he could be a big surprise. There are usually two types of college players available in the ninth round: guys with good stats but mediocre physical tools, and guys with bad stats but good physical tools. Parnell fits into the latter category, and some of them do pan out. ETA: 2008-2009.

10) Courtney Billingslea, OF, Sinclair CC (Ohio)
     A former college punter at Alabama A&M, Billingslea is a tools monster at 6-6, 215 pounds, with power/speed potential. He’s 19 years old, raw, but has high upside, which seems to be a theme with several of the Mets picks. At this point Billingslea could develop into anything, or nothing.

11) Luis Martinez, C-OF, Jackson State CC (Tennessee)
       Martinez had a successful junior college season, showing power and good defensive skills. There seems to be some confusion about his position; he was a catcher/outfielder in college (mostly catcher), and scouts seem to think that is his better position, but he is listed as an outfielder in the Major League Baseball draft database. Either way, he fits in with what the Mets tried to do in the middle rounds: collect high-ceiling athletes.

12) Matthew Spath, OF, Flagler Palm Coast HS, Bunnell, Florida
      A dominant statistical performer in high school, and a good-enough athlete to be offered a college scholarship as a Division I defensive back, Spath isn’t a huge guy at 6-1, 185, and that hurt his draft status. But a late flourish this spring got him on the draft boards, and he has sleeper potential as a 12th round pick. He will attend junior college if he doesn’t sign right away, which would make him a draft-and-follow.

17) Pedro Beato, RHP, Xaverian HS, Queens, New York
      Two years ago, the 6-6, 215 pound Dominican immigrant Pedro Beato looked like an early round pick for ’05. But he blew out his elbow and had to have Tommy John surgery last year. He didn’t look especially impressive this spring, lacking his normal velocity. But just a year removed from the surgery, that is not unusual, and given his size and previous track record, he is an intriguing pick. Word before the draft was that Beato would head to junior college to finish his recovery. He could end up being an excellent draft-and-follow pick.

19) Tim Grogan, 3B, Western Kentucky University
      Considered a possible fourth-sixth round draft pick a year ago, Grogan had problems hitting with wooden bats in the Cape Cod League last summer, then had a bad year this spring, hurting his stock significantly. But he’s quick, strong, and athletic, and if he can make some offensive adjustments, there’s always the chance he could rebound.

26) Kevin Tomasiewicz, LHP, University of Wisconsin-Whitewater
      A finesse southpaw, Tomasiewicz owns one of the best pitching track records in Division III history. His status is hurt by a mediocre fastball (85-88 MPH), but he changes speeds well and knows how to pitch. He should do well in A-ball, but we’ll have to see what happens to him when he reaches advanced competition in Double-A. His college performance was strong enough to at least make him a sleeper.

     Judging a draft two days afterward is problematic. We really don’t have any idea how any of these guys are going to pan out. Even the “safest” pick, someone like Pelfrey, can flame out unexpectedly, while a raw guy can develop his skills suddenly and come out of nowhere. But we can at least get an idea about the kind of risks a particular class runs, and the ’05 Mets draft is a risky one.

     Pelfrey is as close to a sure thing as you can find in a pitcher, but after him the Mets took a lot of chances. Rather than play it safe due to the lack of second and third round choices, the Mets braintrust drafted many high-ceiling/high-reward/high-risk guys. Drew Butera’s glove will get him to the Show, even if his bat doesn’t develop much. Of the high school and JC guys, my favorites are Greg Cain and Jonathan Niese.

      In any event, it will be at least three years before this draft can be legitimately judged. There is a lot of long-term upside here, but this class will present a challenge to New York’s player development team. Whether this is a solid, gutsy draft, or a shaky, excessively risky one, depends on your point of view.

Also, a word from a blog guy:

New York Mets: To be honest, all I really see coming from this class is a future battery: Mike Pelfrey on the mound, and Drew Butera behind the plate. If that is true, Omar Minaya might not be too disappointed. That is simply how good of a talent Pelfrey is, a tall, projectable player with a developed arsenal. He certainly projects better than (gasp!) Jered Weaver, the top collegiate pitcher from 2004. Butera profiles to be his personal catcher, one of the back-up variety, as his bat even pales in comparison to Taylor Teagarden's. But the kid can catch-and-throw with the best of them, and the Mets teaming him up with Pelfrey early and often would be in their best interests. Certainly not a great draft by the Mets, but with Pelfrey and no second and third-round picks, it will be hard to frown upon it.

(He ranked the Mets with the 8th best draft in the NL).

Jun 14 2005 01:35 PM

Very interesting piece! Thanks, JD. I hadn't seen a comprehensive assessment of our picks yet.

From someone who knows little about prospects, I rather like the idea of going for high ceiling players. Oddly enough, I feel like our 2-round gap makes that even more essential. We missed out on a lot of the surer high-ceiling players, so we tried to compensate by getting the riskier ones. Our options were pretty much go for the safest picks, who would most likely have low ceilings since they're available after the 4th round, the risky ones who have high ceilings but have some perceived flaw, or something in the middle. Since we're a large-market team, there's no reason for us to consistently go the safe, low-ceiling route. We can afford to sign solid bench or role players if we have to, so why not be aggressive with our picks?

Sounds to me like we did a fine job.

Jun 14 2005 01:38 PM

So, my question prior to the draft about Omar's strategy has been answered. He went for "toolsey" players instead of going for College players who may be closer to being ready for prime time.
Now let's see how well the organization can turn those tools into productive baseball skills.

Good article. Thanks.


Johnny Dickshot
Jun 14 2005 02:06 PM

I believe the "high-risk" strategy was as much a part of the draft position as anything, but I guess it fits with the overall developing Omar Era MO of aiming high.

In the past (Phillips era), the Mets had been criticized for being overly safe, going for organizational guys/college seniors who don't have real leverage, so maybe this does indicate a change afoot. They turned over a good bit of their scouting/draft staff from last year, from what I understand.

Jun 14 2005 02:53 PM

]he will max out as a gap hitter and never be much of an offensive force. He’s rather raw on defense, particularly with his throws, but he runs well and should be fine defensively with more experience. It boils down to his hitting, and that is uncertain at this point.
So now not only are they going for a tool guy, but a tool guy whose tools are uncertain?

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 14 2005 03:07 PM

He's only 17. You can't be sure of anything at that age. You also have to realize that many of the guys with "surer" tools were prolly gone at that point.

I think you should adopt this kid, nuture him and see him grow.

Is the AAP Forum up yet?

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2005 03:43 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 06 2005 09:09 AM

="Elster88"]he will max out as a gap hitter and never be much of an offensive force. He’s rather raw on defense, particularly with his throws, but he runs well and should be fine defensively with more experience. It boils down to his hitting, and that is uncertain at this point.

So now not only are they going for a tool guy, but a tool guy whose tools are uncertain?[/quote}

First of all, it's the draft, everything is a crap shoot.

Second of all, why start you're pull quote at "...he will max out as a gap hitter..." and leave out "There is mixed opinion about his chances. Some people think he will hit for power in time, while others believe..."?

Jun 14 2005 04:14 PM

="Edgy DC"]
Elster88 wrote:
]he will max out as a gap hitter and never be much of an offensive force. He’s rather raw on defense, particularly with his throws, but he runs well and should be fine defensively with more experience. It boils down to his hitting, and that is uncertain at this point.
So now not only are they going for a tool guy, but a tool guy whose tools are uncertain?[/quote}

First of all, it's the draft, everything is a crap shoot.

Second of all, why start you're pull quote at "...he will max out as a gap hitter..." and leave out "There is mixed opinion about his chances. Some people think he will hit for power in time, while others believe..."?
Sloppy mousework on my part.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2005 04:22 PM

Anybody else wonder how hard these post-draft articles must be to write?

How do you get a fair range of opinions on fifty different guys? How many underpaid scouts willing to talk does a guy have to have in his rolodex? Plus they've got to be willing to talk about another teams's draftees in order to provide unbiased analysis. I figure your typical Met scout has himself seen maybe 20% of the Mets draftees. So how many non-Mets scouts do you have to hit in order to reconstruct the Mets' draft?

I imagine Baseball America can pull this off well, because they've got that whole staff working on the same or similar projects, so they can exchange information? ESPN, I don't trust so much.

Aug 06 2005 08:26 AM

On Friday, New York signed IF Hector Pellot, its fourth-round selection in the June draft. The 18-year-old will join the Mets' Instructional League in September. "My favorite player is Derek Jeter (of the Yankees)," Pellot said. "He's a leader who does everything to win."

BAH! This kid does not know how to endear himself to potential new fans.

Johnny Dickshot
Sep 10 2005 10:08 AM

Here's an interview with scouting guy Russ Bove on this class from a website called Flushing's Future. I know he's there to pump up his guys but seems like there's legit good news on Jonathan Neise at least.


Bove: Three months later
by Jordan Zakarin

Three months after June's draft, Russ Bove again spends some time with, this time to review the performances of some of the signed picks, as well as to give an update on the statuses of the notable unsigned prospects.

Following this past June's Amateur Player Draft, FlushingsFuture was able to review the team's selections with the Mets' Director of Amateur Scouting, Russ Bove. A little less than three months later, Mr. Bove was again gracious enough to spend some time with, this time to review the performances of some of the signed draft picks, as well as to give an update on the status of the picks the team has yet to sign.

FlushingsFuture ( I'm sure you get asked all the time, but what is the status of Mike Pelfrey?

Russ Bove (RB): We're getting closer. Mike wants to play; we're talking to Boras and we're hoping we're going to get him out in instructional league. It's not that far away. There's no risk of going back to school or any of that stuff; he wants to play. We're just trying to get the money straightened out. So you wouldn't classify or call these negotiations contentious or anything?

RB: No, not in the least. The negotiations have been fine. Obviously, we would like to have him signed sooner, but it'll be soon and he'll be a hell of a pitcher for the New York Mets. I'd just like to get him in instructional league so we can get some time under his belt, and also we can get all the hoopla when a number one guy signs, so that when he goes to spring training next year, he'll be just another guy in spring training. He pitched a lot of innings this year, so is it that big of a loss for the organization to not have him under contract during the season.

RB: Well he pitched 140 innings, which is a lot of innings, but between the draft and now, he hasn't pitched in three months. So he's going to be well rested. Once again, if we can get him in instructional league, get some innings under his belt... we had hoped to get him in the Arizona Fall League, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen. Of the guys you took this year, who have you seen as a so far, who has played better than maybe the organization expected?

RB: Well we've been pleased with Jonathan Niese, our seventh round pick. He's a big, strong left-handed pitcher from Ohio. He's a good looking kid. I hate to use these big comparisons, but he's just like a young Jerry Koosman. Were there questions marks about whether he'd be able to be signed? Were you surprised that he signed so quickly?

RB: Well he didn't sign that quickly, but yeah, I think the whole industry was surprised that we were able to sign him where we took him. The perception in the industry was that he was going to be a very difficult player [to sign], but the boy really wanted to play and Sandy Johnson, he had a real good relationship with the agent and we were able to get it done. And we got ownership to give some extra money. So would you say he's been the top pitcher for you coming out of the draft?

RB: Well Bobby Parnell, our ninth round pick, is leading the NY-Penn League in ERA. I have not seen him yet but I've heard nothing but glowing reports and I'm going to see him pitch Thursday. How about Sal Aguilar. He pitched yesterday for Brooklyn, he's had pretty good numbers for Brooklyn, have you been pleased with the way he's pitched?

RB: I was very pleased with what I saw, and he's got a chance. Between all of them, without having seen Parnell yet, I think Niese has probably got the higher ceiling, but I think the best performance so far has been Parnell. He [Parnell] went to a four-year college, do you think that has anything to do with him dominating younger hitters?

RB: I don't think so, because there are an awful lot of four year guys in this league. And he's the best pitcher in the league. So, you can't discount the performance. Matt Anderson, he played well for Kingsport and now he's with Brooklyn. Have you been happy with his performance, maybe even surprised maybe?

RB: Our reports were that he was a bat guy, and that's exactly what he's been. He hit in Kingsport and now he's hitting in Brooklyn. Looking at Greg Cain and Courtney Billingslea, some of the more tools-oriented guys. Maybe not the best numbers from them, what have you seen from them though?

RB: They're both tools guys with big upsides, and we're just going to have to be patient and let them play. There is going to be a lot of ups and downs but they are both outstanding athletes. Cain is a legitimate five-tool guy, but he's crude. Billingslea hasn't played much baseball, so he's really crude. But the ceiling on both of those guys is tremendous, so we'll take a shot. We'll take a shot with those guys every time. Have they made strides at all that your coaches have been able to report?

RB: Oh absolutely. Talking with Gary Carter and Scott Hunter, who is coaching down there, they have both made tremendous strides. But, with those kind of guys, they're going to take three steps forward and two steps back, but they're definitely getting better. Greg Gonzalez and Joe Holden, the 1-2 guys for Brooklyn, you're going to see today...

RB: I saw them last night, and they are fun to watch. I could see both of those guys being one or two hitters throughout their minor league careers. And who knows? Both guys are Brett Butler types, and Brett Butler wasn't a high draft pick. Both of them, especially Gonzalez. He has a chance to be a bonafide lead-off hitter, and those guys are really tough to find. So do you think a lot of these guys will be playing in Fall instructs and in a winter league?

RB: Oh absolutely. Most of them will be in instructionals. Were you surprised you were able to sign Will Jostock? A lot of people said he might go back to Junior College for another year.

RB: Well that's what we thought, but we needed some pitching and the organization stepped up and gave us some money, and our scout did a great job and was able to get him signed. He's a big, long, loose right handed pitcher, very similar to Jake Harrington, who is a draft and follow we signed this year. Those are the high ceiling, 6'4 right handers, nice and loose that throws in the high 80's and low 90's, and who knows? Right, try to get guys with high ceilings.

RB: When you sign some of those guys, some of them are going to miss. But they're high ceiling guys, and that's what I like. Obviously, those are the guys with the best chance to surprise you.

RB: Absolutely. And I've seen Drew Butera is really making strides with the bat, though his numbers don't reflect it. But since he's been catching regularly, he's hitting close to .300. Right, he had another good game for Brooklyn last night.

RB: Had a good night last night, he can really catch and throw, and he's done a real good job shortening up his stroke. What I like was he was very aggressive last night, so we'll see what happens. Where do you see a lot of these guys, a lot of the four year guys, playing next year, like Gonzalez and Butera?

RB: I would say they'll be in either Hagerstown or St. Lucie, depending on how they do in instructional league and then of course spring training. I won't be surprised if some of them make the jump to St. Lucie. Do you think there will be a lot of room for them there?

RB: If a guy shows that he can play, then you make room. How about guys you haven't signed yet, big profile guys. Preston Paramore, the catcher...

RB: We're not going to sign him; he's going to Arizona State. We made a run at him, we offered a hell of a deal in our minds, but he was looking for more and we just didn't feel he was worth what he was looking for, even though he was a good looking prospect. He was offered third-round money. So he thought he was a first round pedigree type of guy?

RB: Yeah, he was looking for first or second round type money. Any guys you think got away from you, guys that you didn't sign but would have liked to.

RB: We would have liked to have signed Pedro Beato, the local boy from Xaverian, but he's going to junior college so we'll have the rights to him next year. We made a very good run at him too, but once again he and his agent were looking for top two round money. Do you think that's happening more often now, guys thinking they're worth more, maybe because their agent is chattering in their ear?

RB: Oh absolutely, I mean that's the nature of the business now. Sometimes the agent, sometimes a parent, sometimes the coach. Right now, we didn't think he was worth that kind of money, but if he shows us at St. Petersburg Junior College, where he's going, then we'll end up giving him that money. So the organization has been good pretty good about the amount of money they've been giving to you?

RB: Yeah, the organization has been fine. They've stepped it up in a number of cases. They stepped it up in a number of cases; they stepped it up with our fourth round pick, Hector Pellot. We ended up overpaying, but that's the type of ability he had. And Jonathan Niese we overpaid, and we're going to end up overpaying for Pelfrey. But we knew that going in, and we took some better guys. Eventually, sometimes you overpay now but it looks like a bargain in the future.

RB: Absolutely. And we didn't have a second or third round pick, so we looked for it. Any of the unsigned later round guys, that are either in junior college or going to junior college, you think you'll be able to sign next year?

RB: Yeah, of course Beato will be the number one guy. We've got a big right handed pitcher in Texas. We see potential in those guys. We've got about seven or eight of them, this year we signed two guys. It all depends on who steps up. Nick Carr. Is he going to junior college?

RB: Yep, that's why we took him. You can't really say anything about what's going to happen next year, with players always rising and falling, but have you started to concentrate on and send scouts to different fall leagues and high school competitions?

RB: Oh absolutely. We've been to all those showcases. We went to the AFLAC Games, we went to the Area Code Games, and of course we've scouted the USA team and we scouted the Cape Cod League, so we've covered a whole bunch of guys for next year, but it all depends on where we pick. Are you prepared to maybe not have second or third round picks again as the team continues to build at the Major League level?

RB: No, it's too early for that. If it happens again, then it happens again. As long as the Mets get better, that's all that we're concerned about.

Once again, I'd like to thank Mr. Bove for taking time out of his busy schedule to give the scoop on the progress of this year's draft class.

Sep 10 2005 10:16 AM

" Are you prepared to maybe not have second or third round picks again as the team continues to build at the Major League level? "

Which of the players we might lose top other teams as free agents would bring us back supplemental draft picks? Have any lists come out that would tell if they're class A or B?


Sep 11 2005 05:01 AM

I've said this before, but the Mike Hampton deal is one of the best trades we ever made. We get him and win the pennant. Then he leaves, and as compensation we get the picks that become Wright and Heilman. Pretty goddamn good.