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Edgy DC
Jun 05 2005 09:42 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jan 25 2006 01:09 PM

All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

1) 1996 Todd Hundley: 41
2) 1999 Mike Piazza: 40
2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 39.79
T3) 1988 Darryl Strawberry: 39
T3) 1987 Darryl Strawberry: 39...
T5) 1991 Howard Johnson: 38
T5) 2000 Mike Piazza: 38
T7) 1990 Darryl Strawberry: 37
T7) 1982 Dave Kingman: 37
T7) 1976 Dave Kingman: 37
T10) 1989 Howard Johnson: 36
T10) 1987 Howard Johnson: 36
T10) 1975 Dave Kingman: 36
T10) 2001 Mike Piazza: 36
T14) 1993 Bobby Bonilla: 34
T14) 1962 Frank Thomas: 34...

...T99) 1995 Todd Hundley: 15
T99) 1996 Butch Huskey: 15
T99) 1990 Gregg Jefferies: 15
T99) 1965 Johnny Lewis: 15
T99) 1976 John Milner: 15
T99) 1968 Ed Charles: 15
T99) 1965 Jim Hickman: 15
T99) 1963 Frank Thomas: 15
T99) 1978 John Stearns: 15
T99) 1973 Rusty Staub: 15
T99) 1984 Keith Hernandez: 15
T99) 1979 Lee Mazzilli: 15
T99) 2000 Benny Agbayani: 15
T112) 2005 Cliff Floyd to Date:14
T112) 1997 Carl Everett: 14
T112) 1994 Jeff Kent: 14
T112) 1987 Tim Teufel: 14
T112) 1966 Ken Boyer: 14
T112) 1963 Duke Snider: 14
T112) 1967 Jerry Buchek: 14
T112) 1969 Art Shamsky: 14
T112) 1968 Cleon Jones: 14
T112) 1971 Cleon Jones: 14
T112) 1971 Ed Kranepool: 14
T112) 1971 Tommie Agee: 14
T112) 1999 Benny Agbayani: 14
T112) 2004 David Wright: 14
All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) Mike Piazza: 207
30 Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95...


...16) Robin Ventura: 77
Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 75.79
17) Rusty Staub: 75
18) Ron Swoboda: 69
19) Lee Mazzilli: 68
20) Jeff Kent: 67
21) John Olerud: 63
T22) Jim Hickman: 60
T22) Mookie Wilson: 60
T24) Wayne Garrett: 55
T24) Butch Huskey: 55
26) Jeromy Burnitz: 53
27) Frank Thomas: 52
28) Bernard Gilkey: 52
29) Cliff Floyd: 50
30) John Stearns: 46
31) Donn Clendenon: 45
32) Hubie Brooks: 44
33) Eddie Murray: 43
34) Art Shamsky: 42
35) Gregg Jefferies: 42
36) Todd Zeile: 41
37) Ryan Thompson: 39
38) Joel Youngblood: 38
=blue]Cliff Floyd at Season's Start: 36
39) Charley Smith: 36
40) Rico Brogna: 36
41) Jerry Grote: 35
42) Steve Henderson: 35
43) Tim Teufel: 35
44) Benny Agbayani: 35
45) Mike Cameron: 35

metsmarathon
Jun 05 2005 10:29 PM

mike cameron should be moving up that all-time career list, too. its not just all about cliff!

also, not that he's going to be catching up to darryl, but mikey's going to be edging closer to first place too.

SI Metman
Jun 06 2005 01:02 AM

Hopefully Cliff stays healthy enough to meet those projections. It's sad to see that those power numbers are better than his last 2 seasons combined. Damn injuries.

Speaking of where Mets rank, does Reyes still have a shot at catching Lance Johnson (triples) or Roger Cedeno (steals) this season.

metsmarathon
Jun 06 2005 08:32 AM

if reyes is to maintain his pace for the entire season, he would:

become the all-time met leader in single season at bats
take second place in triples (1 behind lance)
take 5th in hits (190)
take 6th in stolen bases (43)
tie kevin mcreynolds for 10th in extra bases (66)
tie many other mets for 8th in doubles (37)
tie a few others for 6th in games (159)

and mike cameron is on pace for third best average, second best obp, and best ever slg and ops.

yeah, lets trade him for oogie urbina!

Edgy DC
Jun 06 2005 08:44 AM

It's not all about Cliff. I highlight one guy per post.

It used to be all about Mike. That got boring.

seawolf17
Jun 06 2005 08:48 AM

Hey, Mikey keeps moving up one very special list:

All-Time Mets GIDP Rankings

1. Ed Kranepool 138
2. Mike Piazza 127

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 06 2005 08:49 AM

I remember when Wayne Garrett, with his 55 homers, was in tenth place on the all-time Mets list.

And when Ed Kranepool was the only Met who had hit 100 homers!

Meanwhile, Mike Piazza now has 974 Mets hits. He's getting closer and closer to breaking the curse that keeps imported players from getting 1,000 hits.

Elster88
Jun 06 2005 09:32 AM

]1. Ed Kranepool 138
2. Mike Piazza 127

Also known as, a list of slow players who got a helluva a lot of at-bats as Mets.

Edgy DC
Jun 11 2005 08:27 PM

All-Time Met Hits in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 1,418
2) Cleon Jones: 1,188
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 1,136
4) Mookie Wilson: 1,112
Mike Piazza projected to end of season: 1,058
5) Bud Harrelson: 1,029
6) Darryl Strawberry: 1,025
7) Howard Johnson: 997
8) Jerry Grote: 994
9) Mike Piazza: 977
10) Keith Hernandez: 939
Mike Piazza at start of season: 928

Edgy DC
Jun 12 2005 12:07 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 12 2005 06:13 AM

All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

1) 1996 Todd Hundley: 41
2) 1999 Mike Piazza: 40
2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 39.19
T3) 1988 Darryl Strawberry: 39
T3) 1987 Darryl Strawberry: 39...
T5) 1991 Howard Johnson: 38
T5) 2000 Mike Piazza: 38
T7) 1990 Darryl Strawberry: 37
T7) 1982 Dave Kingman: 37
T7) 1976 Dave Kingman: 37
T10) 1989 Howard Johnson: 36
T10) 1987 Howard Johnson: 36
T10) 1975 Dave Kingman: 36
T10) 2001 Mike Piazza: 36
T14) 1993 Bobby Bonilla: 34
T14) 1962 Frank Thomas: 34...

...T83) 1994 Todd Hundley: 16
T83) 1992 Eddie Murray: 16
T83) 1991 Kevin McReynolds: 16
T83) 1991 Hubie Brooks: 16
T83) 1965 Charley Smith: 16
T83) 1967 Tommy Davis: 16
T83) 1964 Joe Christopher: 16
T83) 1962 Marv Throneberry: 16
T83) 1973 Wayne Garrett: 16
T83) 1984 Hubie Brooks: 16
T83) 1966 Ed Kranepool: 16
T83) 1980 Lee Mazzilli: 16
T83) 1978 Lee Mazzilli: 16
T83) 1979 Joel Youngblood: 16
T83) 2002 Edgardo Alfonzo: 16
T83) 2003 Tony Clark: 16
T99) 2005 Cliff Floyd to Date:15
T99) 1995 Todd Hundley: 15
T99) 1996 Butch Huskey: 15
T99) 1990 Gregg Jefferies: 15
T99) 1965 Johnny Lewis: 15
T99) 1976 John Milner: 15
T99) 1968 Ed Charles: 15
T99) 1965 Jim Hickman: 15
T99) 1963 Frank Thomas: 15
T99) 1978 John Stearns: 15
T99) 1973 Rusty Staub: 15
T99) 1984 Keith Hernandez: 15
T99) 1979 Lee Mazzilli: 15
T99) 2000 Benny Agbayani: 15
All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) Mike Piazza: 207
30 Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee 82...

...16) Robin Ventura: 77
Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 75.19
17) Rusty Staub: 75
18) Ron Swoboda: 69
19) Lee Mazzilli: 68
20) Jeff Kent: 67
21) John Olerud: 63
T22) Jim Hickman: 60
T22) Mookie Wilson: 60
T24) Wayne Garrett: 55
T24) Butch Huskey: 55
26) Jeromy Burnitz: 53
27) Frank Thomas: 52
28) Bernard Gilkey: 52
29) Cliff Floyd: 51
30) John Stearns: 46
31) Donn Clendenon: 45
32) Hubie Brooks: 44
33) Eddie Murray: 43
34) Art Shamsky: 42
35) Gregg Jefferies: 42
36) Todd Zeile: 41
37) Ryan Thompson: 39
38) Joel Youngblood: 38
=orange]Cliff Floyd at Season's Start: 36
39) Charley Smith: 36
40) Rico Brogna: 36
41) Jerry Grote: 35
42) Steve Henderson: 35
43) Tim Teufel: 35
44) Benny Agbayani: 35
45) Mike Cameron: 35

Iubitul
Jun 12 2005 12:22 AM

]2004 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 39.19

pssst... This is 2005..

Edgy DC
Jun 12 2005 06:12 AM

Thanks. I shall correct now that I have my morning brain on.

Edgy DC
Jun 16 2005 07:21 PM

In Met homers, this whole season looks to be a one-man race for second for Mike Piazza, but in the realm of big-league homers, Piazza has caught Dwight Evans, and Johnny Bench within reach.
All-Time Mets Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza projected to end of season: 218
2) Mike Piazza: 208
=orange]Mike Piazza at start of season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee: 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
All-Time Big League Homers in a Career

44) Joe Carter: 396
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 395
45) Graig Nettles: 390
46) Johnny Bench: 389
T47) Dwight Evans: 385
T47) Mike Piazza: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams: 378

cooby
Jun 16 2005 07:40 PM

I thought that said Where Mets Bank

Edgy DC
Jun 16 2005 08:01 PM

Yeah, I'm not into the font either.

duan
Jun 17 2005 08:28 AM

I don't know for how much money, but I'd really like to try and keep mike for another season. I kinda feel I'd love him to retire as the mets leading HR hitter of all time, the only way that could happen would be if their was a Piazza playing for the mets in 2006.

*point of reference here, I went to Shea first in 1997, but I really started following the mets in the summer of 1998 when I came back to NYC in June.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 17 2005 08:34 AM

Mike still needs 45 homers to pass Darryl. I suspect he'd have to return for 2007 (and maybe 2008) to get another 45 home runs.

So Darryl's record is probably safe, at least for a while. (The nearest threats are probably Wright and Beltran, who are many years and home runs away.)

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 17 2005 08:38 AM

And Piazza now has 981 hits as a Met. He's coming up on a big milestone.

Elster88
Jun 17 2005 08:39 AM

Just out of curiousity, who's number 15 on the All-Time Career Met Homers list?

Edgy DC
Jun 17 2005 08:41 AM

I think the Mets have put off talk of resigning Piazza until the off season and so should we.

duan
Jun 17 2005 09:29 AM
definitely

they should wait and see, I'm just saying that emotionally, he's my strongest bond to the franchise, and I'd like three things to happen

1. Him to retire as a met
2. Him to retire with a met record, not just a mlb record
3. Him to go to HOF as a met

and if we don't keep him in 2006 i'd say he may well not do any of those things.

Benjamin Grimm
Jun 17 2005 09:32 AM

Number 3 on that list is the one I'd most like to see.

Number 1 would pretty much guarantee number 3.

The biggest threat to number 3 would be a return to the Dodgers.

If Mike leaves the Mets and plays a season or two with some team other than the Dodgers, I think he's still getting a Mets cap on his plaque.

Edgy DC
Jun 17 2005 09:45 AM

Well, for what it's worth, his Met career slugging percentage of .546 is likely to stand for a while as a record among Mets with X at-bats, at least until David Wright sees at-bat number X. And Wright, at .515 after 487 at-bats, is certainly no lock. Neither is Beltran, but we'll see.

He's stayed out of the double play this season, which is good because he's only 11 behind Ed Kranepool for the all time Mets top slot in that ugly little category.

Nymr83
Jun 17 2005 04:55 PM

]they should wait and see, I'm just saying that emotionally, he's my strongest bond to the franchise, and I'd like three things to happen

1. Him to retire as a met
2. Him to retire with a met record, not just a mlb record
3. Him to go to HOF as a met


My friend, a Yankee fan, says that #3 is already a lock. I disagree and I am STRONGLY opposed to resigning the guy just to try and get him into the hall as a Met. The Mets should be trying to win next year and the year after and should only resign Piazza if he is the best overall catching option available this offseason, taking into account offense, defense, and health of all available catchers.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 17 2005 05:41 PM

This emotional attachment to Mike Piazza, which many of you seem to have and which I (clearly) lack, would be okay if you folks would just acknowledge that such ephemeral commodities as the cap on his HOF plaque has cost you a great deal. Getting to root for him the last few unproductive seasons has retarded the Mets' chances of fielding a decent team, and I wouldn't have paid that particular price, if it were up to me. But you've voiced your adoration of Piazza, and Freddy has heard your voices (and the coins jingling in your pocket) and he's given you what you demanded.

Piazza's had a great career, and he's performed admirably over the years, and has comported himself well and (for the most part) with dignity and class--but I wish to hell we'd dumped his ass three or four years ago, and thanked him for his services to our club, and moved the hell on.

"Oh, shut up. I'm sick to death of hearing you on the subject of Piazza. Just STFU, OK?"

Okay, boss.

Frayed Knot
Jun 17 2005 10:18 PM

]1. Him to retire as a met
2. Him to retire with a met record, not just a mlb record
3. Him to go to HOF as a met


#1 It would be nice (and hey, who said he's getting another job anyway?) but it's not worth it if it doesn't help the team

#2 - I don't even understand #2

#3 - I've spouted off about this subject before ... but I really hate this arguement.
* First of all, I don't care what he "goes in as". It's not like the image on the plaque limits a career to that phase only at the exclusion of any and all others. It wouldn't diminish his Met career one iota if his likeness contained some other insignia.
* His NYM ABs passed his LAD ABs about a year and change ago - so unless he returns to Dodgertown after this season and stays at least 2 full seasons, he'll still wind up w/the plurality of his career in the blue and orange.
* And - like #1 - it would be really dumb reason if that were the only reason we retained a player.

duan
Jun 18 2005 04:41 AM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
This emotional attachment to Mike Piazza, which many of you seem to have and which I (clearly) lack, would be okay if you folks would just acknowledge that such ephemeral commodities as the cap on his HOF plaque has cost you a great deal. Getting to root for him the last few unproductive seasons has retarded the Mets' chances of fielding a decent team, and I wouldn't have paid that particular price, if it were up to me. But you've voiced your adoration of Piazza, and Freddy has heard your voices (and the coins jingling in your pocket) and he's given you what you demanded.

Piazza's had a great career, and he's performed admirably over the years, and has comported himself well and (for the most part) with dignity and class--but I wish to hell we'd dumped his ass three or four years ago, and thanked him for his services to our club, and moved the hell on.

"Oh, shut up. I'm sick to death of hearing you on the subject of Piazza. Just STFU, OK?"

Okay, boss.



Thing is, while sport is about athletic performance and competition it is also apparent that in relation to *teams* emotional attachment is a huge part of why one is capable of and persists in following one particular team rather then the game and the people who play it best at any particular moment in time.

I'm aware that it may well be better for the mets to part ways with Piazza at the end of the season, I'm just saying that due to a particular confluence between his arrival in New York and mine that I'm conscious that to me, at least, he's one of the reasons I've bothered to continue to follow baseball from 3,000 miles away.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 18 2005 05:39 AM

duan wrote:
it may well be better for the mets to part ways with Piazza at the end of the season.


Yeah, the 2001 season.

Now after three or four sub-par seasons, you're willing to concede "OKay, we'll be willing to sacrifice his services"--that's mighty big of you. The idea was to do that when he could have gotten you something valuable in return. The luxury of having Piazza catch for you and bat clean-up has cost you a huge chunk of your lives. (Say, where are all those fine folks who claimed at the beginning of this year that Piazza in the four-hole was still a good idea? Lost in cyberspace, I suppose. Let's just say that I made up that last point, since I cant support it thanks to EZ-board any more, okay? Theyre in cyber-heaven, rubbing shoulders with the "Mientkiewicz is a Gold Glove/All-Star/ MVP /Jesus Christ type who we need like air itself" crowd.)

"Will you put a freaking sock in it, already? No one cares! You're a Met-hater, and I'm not listening to you any more. LALALALALALA."

KC
Jun 18 2005 06:44 AM

>>>This emotional attachment to Mike Piazza, which many of you seem to have and which I (clearly) lack<<<

"Many" is a stretch and three quarters.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 18 2005 06:50 AM

I feel the love.

KC
Jun 18 2005 06:59 AM

Happy Birthday

cooby
Jun 18 2005 07:13 AM

Happy Birthday, Sal! Have a piece of strawberry rhubarb pie for me!

ScarletKnight41
Jun 18 2005 09:24 AM

BS - is it really your birthday? If so, have a great one!

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 18 2005 09:46 AM

Hmmm...maybe I am feeling some love here.

Thanks, folks. One year for every card in the deck, every week in the year, every section of "Leaves of Grass."

Edgy DC
Jun 19 2005 04:00 PM

All-Time Met Hits in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 1,418
2) Cleon Jones: 1,188
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 1,136
4) Mookie Wilson: 1,112
Mike Piazza projected to end of season: 1,059
5) Bud Harrelson: 1,029
6) Darryl Strawberry: 1,025
7) Howard Johnson: 997
8) Jerry Grote: 994
9) Mike Piazza: 984
10) Keith Hernandez: 939
Mike Piazza at start of season: 928
All-Time Met Doubles in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 225
2) Howard Johnson: 214
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 212
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 205
4) Darryl Strawberry: 187
5) Mike Piazza: 185
6) Cleon Jones: 182
7) Mookie Wilson: 170
Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 170
8) Keith Hernandez: 159
9) Kevin McReynolds: 153
10) John Stearns: 152




I'm guessing, but it may take until the end of the season for Piazza to pass Grote in hits by a Met catcher.

KC
Jun 19 2005 04:04 PM

How about rbi and ind lob's or some measure of what he does with risp?

He's really kinda sucked the last couple of years.

Edgy DC
Jun 19 2005 04:10 PM

In RBI, he's third and within a whisper of second. LoBs and BA with RiSP are elusive stats to measure against the Mets all-time.

KC
Jun 19 2005 04:46 PM

He's lucky that his early years were so dominant, otherwise the last couple
of years might have elusively whispered him out of the HOF.

I'm just so through with him as a Met and tired of defending him or listening
to arguments and stats making him out to be some kind of great Met.

ScarletKnight41
Jun 19 2005 04:50 PM

Whenever I think of Glavine, I think of freezing my ass off Opening Day 2003 for his Met debut.

And he's a negative example to any youngsters riding in my car. I'm constantly telling kids, "Don't be like Tom Glavine - buckle up."

I don't just hat him. I hate him.

KC
Jun 19 2005 04:54 PM

I found Gary Carter's post '86 years with the Mets frustrating too. I used to
call him Pop Up Carter. At least Mike doesn't make that "damn I can't be-
lieve I just made another out" face that Gary used to make.

Back up the truck, the goose is cooked.

Edgy DC
Jun 19 2005 05:05 PM

He's lucky that his early years were so dominant, otherwise the last couple of years might have elusively whispered him out of the HOF.

It's obvious, but it's hard to attribute it to luck.

KC
Jun 19 2005 05:25 PM

Fortunate then, don't word play me. If you want to root for him go ahead, I'm done.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 19 2005 08:17 PM

How would a Moslem feel upon having converted the Pope to follow Islam?

Proud, I tell ya, proud.

Edgy DC
Jun 19 2005 09:10 PM

That's not what I was doing.

All-Time Mets RBI

1) Darryl Strawberry: 733
Mike Piazza: 561
2) Howard Johnson: 629
3) Mike Piazza: 622
4) Ed Kranepool: 614
Mike Piazza: 593
5) Edgardo Alfonzo: 538
6) Cleon Jones: 521
7) Keith Hernandez: 468
8) Kevin McReynolds: 456
9) Rusty Staub: 399
10) Todd Hundley: 397

IN 74 plate appearances with runners in scoring position in 2005, Piazza has a .222 batting average, with a .338 on-base percentage and .476 slugging percentage, for an .814 OpS.

duan
Jun 20 2005 06:38 AM
thing is

you may mock my liking of Piazza and wishing his further success - and tying that up with records, retirements & the hall of fame. Here's the thing Piazza is more of *the mets* to me then any other player. It's as simple as that, when he goes there'll be no connection to the team I first followed. That's fine, all 'fans' go through that it over the passing of time.

but it isn't to say that I wouldn't be willing

a) for him to be traded, if I felt it was for the overall benefit of the club
b) for us NOT to resign him
c) for piazza to move down to 5/6/7 in the batting order
d) for us to bench him if we had a better option

They are decisions that I could make - I wish that it was Piazza's performance rather then his heritage that made them tough to do - is that wrong?

Edgy DC
Jun 20 2005 10:24 AM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 20 2005 11:07 AM

Mike Piazza v. Mike Piazza with Runners in Scoring Position


BAOBPSLGOpS
Career.313.384.557.941
Career w/RiSP.265.402.485.886
Met Career.299.376.546.921
Met Career w/RiSP*.273.395.483.878
2005.263.329.432.761
2005 w/RiSP.222.338.476.814


*I haven't been able to locate Piazza's 1998 totals w/RiSP, so this data is incomplete.

KC
Jun 20 2005 10:39 AM

I think he probably had a good hundred games with the Mets in 1998 and
they were probably productive so it would bolster the numbers a little.

Thanks.

And Bret, you haven't converted anyone. My point (if I really do have a point)
is that at some point I reached a frustration level with our hall-of fame-best-
hitting-catcher-of-all-time and I don't feel like he's even been all-star worthy
at times. The tv guys talk about him like he's god and hasn't been god-like
in quite some time. Drop him down another notch or two and see if he can
get hungry again.

He had a decent day yesterday. I think the chip in my brain went off when
Reyes shorthopped a throw to him at home and the camera caught Piazza
looking at him like, "what the fuh". Hey Mike, this team is more Joses and
Wrights, and Pedros ... don't be glaring at my boy.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 20 2005 03:47 PM

Well, SOMETHING happened in between mocking some poor hapless predictor's remark that the Mets will never have another playoff team with Piazza on it (by sticking it in your sig line) and "If you want to root for him go ahead, I'm done."

I'm claiming it as another soul for Allah.

KC
Jun 20 2005 04:01 PM

Poor Sal, we wounded him so ...

And perhaps you've forgotten that I embraced Judaism towards the end of
last season. I wouldn't know allah from nothin'.

Edgy DC
Jun 21 2005 09:15 PM

All-Time Met Triples in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 21
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 18.51
2) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 10
T3) Charlie Neal, 1962: 9
T3) Steve Henderson, 1978: 9
T3) Frank Taveras, 1979: 9
T3) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 9
T7) Joe Christopher, 1964: 8
T7) Joel Youngblood, 1970: 8
T7) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 8
T7) Cleon Jones, 1970: 8
T7) Len Randle, 1978: 8
T7) Doug Flynn, 1978: 8
T7) Steve Henderson, 1979: 8
T7) Doug Flynn, 1980: 8
T7) Steve Henderson, 1980: 8
T7) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 8
T7) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 8
T7) Vince Coleman, 1993: 8
T7) Jose Reyes, 2005: 8

All-Time Met Triples in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 62
2) Bud Harrelson: 45
3) Cleon Jones: 33
4) Steve Henderson: 31
5) Darryl Strawberry: 30
6) Lance Johnson: 27
7) Doug Flynn: 26
8) Ed Kranepool: 25
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 24.51
9) Lee Mazzilli: 22
T10) Ron Swoboda: 20
T10) Wayne Garrett: 20
T12) Jerry Grote: 18
T12) Joel Youngblood: 18
T12) Howard Johnson: 18
T15) Lenny Dykstra: 17
T15) Rey Ordóñez: 17
T17) Ken Boswell: 15
T17) Lenny Randle: 15
T19) Joe Christopher: 14
T19) Tommie Agee: 14
T19) Ted Martinez: 14
T19) Mike Phillips: 14
T19) Wally Backman: 14
T19) Kevin McReynolds: 14
T19) Vince Coleman: 14
T19) Jose Vizcaino: 14
T19) Edgardo Alfonzo: 14
T19) Jose Reyes: 14
29) Ron Hunt: 13...

...Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 6


In the single-season category, it looks like Jose could quickly try and fill that huge gap between the leader and the pack.

Nymr83
Jun 21 2005 09:48 PM

Sal, i admit i did not join the "anti-piazza party" until last year, but why does it matter when people came around, calm down on the converting thing, Piazza's lack of production converted them, not you :)

to Piazza lovers-
if your reason for wanting piazza on the team is to put him in the hall as a met then i disagree strongly with you that this is a worthy objective- the mets should try to win games, not hall placks.
if, however, you still believe that he can help this team win, either because he can still be productive or whatever else then i again disagree with you...but i feel this point of view is totally justified if you honestly hold it.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 05:00 AM

Nymr83--it's not about my getting credit for conversion, or getting credit for being right, but now it hardly matters if you're pro-Piazza or anti-, because there's no real buyers for Piazza on any level whatsoever. If the Mets released him, there would be many multiples of the numbers of teams who would go "Meh" as opposed to the teams who, even a year or two ago, would go, "I'll buy THAT for a dollar!" Almost literally, you can't give him away any more.

But a year or two ago, and cetainly three or four ago, when I was first advocating Piazza's trade value being realized ( and being soundly reviled for it by many of the same folks now, who stick to their hostility without acknowledging that maybe that was just my being a good far-seeing fan), WE COULD HAVE BEGUN THE REBUILDING PROCESS. I mean, Piazza of 2001 or 2002 was an attractive option to many GMs. The problem was even then that maybe he was a bit over-priced, so we would have had to eat some money in a deal trading him for young talent--and Fred would rather, as it happened, spend the money on four bad years of Piazza than eat a few mil in 2001, and as for Mets fans, eating money was equivalent to saying that their love for Piazza was misplaced. Or something. I still don't really get the "Death before Dishonor" mentality of naysaying any Piazza deal for years and years.

Like Nixon, you're all suavely admitting to being Keynesians now, when Keynes' economic views are universally accepted and no one disputes you anymore. It's very easy to be down on Piazza now. I don't respect you much for that--you would have to be deaf and blind and very, very dumb to continue upholding the Piazza banner now. But there was a time, and not so long ago, when being down on Piazza still had possibilities that would have worked out very well in the Mets' favor, but you preferred to go on wearing your PIAZZA 31 pajamas and deny what you were seeing happen before your eyes. That's my complaint--you thought you were being good Mets fans, but you were enabling the deterioration of this franchise. I have a problem with that.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 22 2005 05:08 AM

Who are you talking to?

cooby
Jun 22 2005 05:14 AM

Wow, I was not aware that my personal interest in this club had such a direct result on their fortunes. And from so far away, too. I will have to be more careful about that.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 05:40 AM

Dickshot, I think you and Cooby are being disingenuous here.

If my post was addressed to people other than yourself, than please feel free to regard it as my criticism of adversaries who do not exist. I think to say that I haven't received several truckloads of shit (decreasing with Piazza's OPS over the years, though typically lagging a few months behnd that declining curve) for my early "trade Piazza" passion is to remember the past very selectively, so selectively I refuse to do the work (now mainly lost anyway) of finding you archives to support my position. I'll merely refer you to KC's somewhat (he thought) scathing sig line referenced above, quoting me as predicting Piazza's never again playing on a Mets playoff team, presumably to rub my nose in when the Mets contradicted me (as many people felt they surely would), only to gradually drop the sig line and then to come around to taking an anti-Piazza stance, only TLTL after the ship of actually getting a useful return for Piazza had long since sailed.

So maybe I'm addressing KC here. He doesn;'t want to credit me for having converted him? Fine. I don't need credit.

Maybe I'm addressing (as my post above indicates) Nymr83. Maybe I'm addressing everyone who hotly disputed my claim that Piazza was unlikely to drive in 80 runs last year. Maybe I'm addressing those folks who lost several hundred dollars to me backing up that foolish hope. I certainly don't want to lump in all those fine folks who considered my trade proposals a beneficial thing for the Mets as equally culpable: I just don't see a lot of them here. Maybe I have a very selective memory too, and I've forgotten all the outspoken support I've gotten over the years for thinking that the Mets would do well to deal him for younger players whose potential might be less right here right now. And thanks to EZ board, we may never be able to identify these fine folks and pin medals on them for their prescience and long-term understanding of the Mets' best interests.

KC
Jun 22 2005 06:09 AM

I need this like I need a hole in the head.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 06:21 AM

You see, KC, that some people are in indefensible positions so they mostly treat my posts as invisible these days. If you ferociously and mockingly asserted that Piazza was likely to drive in 80 runs last year, that makes me think that there may have been an equally wrongheaded major league GM who thought last year at that time that possibility was much larger than I thought it was. What I advocated then was simply to find out what that hypothetical (but very real) GM would have given you in exchange for Piazza.

Now, I happen to think that a catcher who drives in 80+ runs is a valuable commodity, and that many contending teams would like to have one, especially in exchange for a few players who's future performances are off in, well, the future. I think it's very hard to take that postition then AND now to take the position that "Who knew Piazza would go south like this?" The Mets are stuck with their crappy roster because they WANTED to be stuck with it, making them a very hard team to root for.

I've rooted for some very bad teams in my time, teams that have gotten burned on unwise deals, teams that banked on 5-tool heroes whose tools were all in the garage, teams with a very low base of talent to begin with...but I've never rooted for a team determined to put the APPEARANCE of quality out on the field without the substance, and I find this team more unlikeable the more I see.

For Omar even to be TALKING now about being a buyer for 2005 is despicable--he should be indicted for fraud. I think I'll drop Eliot Spitzer a line.

KC
Jun 22 2005 07:24 AM

Look, let me be blunt. These outbursts make no fucking sense to me.
Maybe I'm stupid.

Later.

OE: Substitured 'outbursts' for the word 'posts'.

Later

Rotblatt
Jun 22 2005 07:58 AM

]For Omar even to be TALKING now about being a buyer for 2005 is despicable


Okey dokey, smokey!

While I agree that we should be sellers this year, your statement is laughable. There are maybe one or two teams who have conceded the season so far. Those teams are worse in the standings than we are and have less talent than we do. Are ALL the GMs with records worse than ours despicable for not throwing in the towel yet? What about all the teams who are more than 6.5 games out? Or maybe just those more than 3 games out of the wild card race?

Anything can happen in a season, Sal. Even I know that Omar can't publicly throw in the towel yet, and I totally agree with you that we should be sellers this year, not buyers.

As for your hypothesis that Omar is only concerned with putting the appearance of talent on the field, what the fuck are you talking about? He's been here all of about five minutes. How can you possibly blame him for Piazza or Glavine or Kazmir or Huber or Peterson? Maybe you don't like the moves he's made, but it's waaaay too early to start saying he's only interested in window dressing.

And I think it's clear that this team, while flawed, is both better than the ones we've trotted out the last few years, and contains more players likely to contribute in the years ahead. Do you honestly think we're worse last year than we are now? Or that we'd be better this year with Phillips, Stanton & McEwing than with Pedro, Beltran & Ishii?

soupcan
Jun 22 2005 08:04 AM

I think what you are failing to see as far as Piazza's value to the Mets is the business side of it.

People buy, or more accurately bought, tickets to Mets games to see Piazza. He was a drawing card for the franchise at a time when the franchise needed it.

Rather than criticizing Fred for not givng the okay to trading him and eating a few million, try to to look at it from the owner's point of view. He needed a marquee name to sell tickets and the pizza man was the guy. He trades him away for some young 'uns and *poof* there goes excitement, ticket sales, tv ratings and revenue.

What's that you say? He more than would have made up for it in the ensuing years had the talent he brought back blossomed and added to a better product on the field thereby resulting in sold-out stadiums a year or two or three later? Interesting but you'd be assuming that those imaginary prospects would in fact blossom. What if they didn't? Where's Fred's return?

Besides I think the Mets attendance is actually pretty good this season so even if the players a Piazza trade would've netted became drawing cards you would be hard-pressed to show that they would've gotten more people into thebpark this year than Pedro, Carlos et al.

I know that we don't like to think of baseball as a business but the guys that own the teams do and unfortunately sdometies we need to as well.

duan
Jun 22 2005 08:49 AM
that's complete nonsense sal

Ok, the world series in 2000 was the pinnacle of the Leiter/Piazza/Alfonso Mets. They got within Timo Perez actually running freaking hard on a Todd Zeile double again the wall of winning the whole thing. Well, no we weren't but we were petty damn close and if the raison d'etre is winning the world series then that would CLEARLY have been difficult time to "start rebuilding" that was the year to try and strengthen the team in a couple of key areas to go try and take a step up.

so the players that made the mets non-competitive in the years POST the world series were NOT Mike Piazza (who gave us better then average production till mid way through 2004) they were the routine signing of mediocre free agents for too much money and too long a time.

Lets start with 2000 -
Turk Wendell 3 years at 3.3 p/a
Rick Reed 3 years at 7 p/a
Kevin Appier 4 years @ 10.5 p/a
Roger Cedeno 3 years @ 4 p/a
John Franco 3 years @ 3.5

that works out @ 27 million per year.

Of these only Appier gave anything like a years decent service nor was there anyone here who was worth paying a premium for (like Piazza was in 1998) there was a bunch of guys with either injury histories/potential for reversion to replacement level performance/age

Sure we got out of some of these deals, but they set a pattern for panicky signings and trades in a desperate quest for relevancy!

If you ACTUALLY think that trading Mike Piazza after the 2000 WS was the right thing to do, you're not recognising where the real mistakes were made.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 22 2005 09:48 AM

Come on now. It's so much easier just to accuse the other side of sleeping in Piazza Pajamas.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 10:02 AM

I make too easy a target of myself by using hyperbolic rhetoric like Piazza pajamas. I can say it in a less attractive way for the Dickshots of this world, but I prefer not to.

Soupy's point is the most well-considered. Most of the posters who've disagreed forcefully with me over the years on this issue cut Fred some slack for "business" decisions. Some cut him a lot of slack , like Soupy. Some even say (Cooby comes to mind), that the W-L record is a blip on the radar screen of their enjoyment.

I cut him no slack. I don't give a shit if he makes a lot of money, makes a nice slice of change or loses his shirt, because that's his business, literally and figuratively. My business is watching a competitive team that, by sheer coincidence, also happens to be Fred's number #1 route to untold riches, so I can blow off my lack of concern for his wallet, knowing that my goal will lead to his goal anyway.

The despicable part of Omar's professing to be committed to being a buyer is that he doesn't avoid the questions, doesn't "no comment" them., doesn't "we'll see" them but aggressively confronts reporters asking them and laboriously asserts the ruinous policies that have messed up this team for years before he ever got here and, I'm afraid, (because I don't think the words coming out of his mouth are coming from his mind) will go on long after he leaves.

This is no longer a biggie to me, as I rejoice whenever the Mets get their asses handed to them these days, as they richly deserve, but a more cynical, manipulative managerial style I have never before seen. Well, maybe from my ex-wife's divorce attorney....

cooby
Jun 22 2005 10:04 AM

Mind telling us what you're doing on a pro-Mets forum then?

soupcan
Jun 22 2005 10:14 AM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
Soupy's point is the most well-considered. Most of the posters who've disagreed forcefully with me over the years on this issue cut Fred some slack for "business" decisions. Some cut him a lot of slack , like Soupy. Some even say (Cooby comes to mind), that the W-L record is a blip on the radar screen of their enjoyment.

I cut him no slack. I don't give a shit if he makes a lot of money, makes a nice slice of change or loses his shirt, because that's his business, literally and figuratively. My business is watching a competitive team that, by sheer coincidence, also happens to be Fred's number #1 route to untold riches, so I can blow off my lack of concern for his wallet, knowing that my goal will lead to his goal anyway.


You don't have to agree with Fred or even sympathize. I just get the impression that you think they are just stoopid for not dealing Piazza when in fact there are very valid reasons for not doing so.

Also if you think that owning a professional sports team is the source of 'untold riches' then I'm wondering how you got the keys to MFS' medicine cabinet.

Its well documented that these teams lose more money than they make and even those that do turn a profit do a relitively modest one at that. These franchises are playthings, toys and in many cases tax shelters that serve to massage the egos of their billionaire owners. Why do you think there are no more 'family-owned' teams? They can't afford them.

Teams are owned by multi-national conglomerates for the pupose of providing a vehicle to promote their other products. In terms of te Mets they are owned by Sterling Equities which is a real estate company. Don't think that lo, those many moons ago when Wilpon and Doubleday bought the team, that Freddy didn't know that one day a stadium would be built and Sterling would profit handsomely. Sure it took a lot longer than he thought but here it comes.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 10:16 AM
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I am pro-Mets.

Fred isn't. Your position, IMO, is utterly indefensible. I mean, I love you madly, and the Old Mole (who endorses your position) too, but your lack of concern for wins and losses just has me completely baffled.

I understand this team better than I do any other, I follow them more closely than most of the CPFers (in disgust and pain nowadays), I'm able to analyze their moves, wretched and self-defeating as most of them are, and I happen to feel that voicing that here serves a useful purpose. I try to be honest in my evaluations, and I'm not in the habit of trolling (stating views that I don't genuinely hold to get a rise out of you nice folks), which to my standards justifies posting now and then. But I'll stop anytime you ask, Cooby.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 10:18 AM

Soup--Piazza's a symbol of the problem. I actually like the guy, in many ways.

If I want to care, even a little, about the non-baseball rationales for running a fucked-up business, I'd spend more time looking over my stock portfolio.

soupcan
Jun 22 2005 10:22 AM

I hear ya.

cooby
Jun 22 2005 10:22 AM

Well no, I'm not asking you to stop.

I'm just curious as to how you knew what my jammies look like

cooby
Jun 22 2005 10:26 AM

(Cooby comes to mind), that the W-L record is a blip on the radar screen of their enjoyment.

And this has more to do with the fact that I have a lot more than the Mets to think about in my life, not with the fact that I am a total airhead.

Wait a minute, that didn't come out right

Willets Point
Jun 22 2005 10:32 AM

Everything seems right with this forum now.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 10:42 AM

soupcan wrote:
Why do you think there are no more 'family-owned' teams? They can't afford them.

Teams are owned by multi-national conglomerates for the pupose of providing a vehicle to promote their other products. In terms of te Mets they are owned by Sterling Equities which is a real estate company. Don't think that lo, those many moons ago when Wilpon and Doubleday bought the team, that Freddy didn't know that one day a stadium would be built and Sterling would profit handsomely. Sure it took a lot longer than he thought but here it comes.


Maybe someone can explain this stuff to me. The Mets are essentially a charitable organization that runs at a loss year after year, yet is part of a gigantic money-generating mega-conglomerate: Am I supposed to commiserate with the poor Metsies for their difficulty keeping out of bankruptcy, or view them as a money-making monster for the crucial part they play in the big, bad mega-conglomerate's financial scheme to control the world?

Or are you spinning it both ways at once?

If the team per se loses money (on one set of books) but enable Fred to print cash for his real estate business (on another), am I supposed to then give a flying fuck that he's unwilling to lose a few more millions in his loss-leader here?

soupcan
Jun 22 2005 10:48 AM

I don't pretend to know how exactly it works. I have been told by people who are in a position to know however, that it does. And very nicely.

Basically it is what I said it is. An advertising vehicle for those who can afford it and can validate the losses based on the returns it gives them in other areas.

I didn't say that any losses the Mets might incur should or would prevent them from continuing to spend money (obviously it doesn't) just that contrary to what people think - professional teams are not the cash machines that they are generally perceived to be.

P.S. I hate that this forum has no spell check.

Rotblatt
Jun 22 2005 11:06 AM

I think that many owners do get back more money than they put in, but they are (quite legally) able to hide certain incomes in such ways that shows them to be losing money. Which is to their advantage for tax & PR purposes. It also helps when they're trying to bilk a stadium out of a city.

I've read a number of articles about the accounting of baseball, and I feel like I get it every time, but it never seems to stick.

So to answer your question, Sal, you're supposed to view them as a money-making monster that you desperately hope realizes becoming efficient and judicious in use of money--rather than cheap and/or stupid--is the way to become a bigger monster.

As for Omar, I can understand wanting him to be more honest with reporters & fans, but I prefer to judge him by his actions. And so far, he's done alright, if you ask me. What he does in the next month and a half will tell me what kind of GM he's going to be . . .

duan
Jun 22 2005 11:06 AM
if you want to address

the issue of the way baseball teams make money, that's an ENTIRELY different ball game - for a start the restrictive labor practices would need to go, similarly the 'mlb' structure where it's a closed shop is hugely negative to genuine competition.

For example, you can make a profit, lose 162 games AND STILL get a huge chunk of revenue sharing changed even if your roster was comprised of 25* minimum wage players.

It's a very odd situation - one that CLEARLY gives rise to the kind of shadiness you are talking about (let alone the kind of stuff that's done by the Braves and the Cubs to artificially deflate their revenues).

duan
Jun 22 2005 11:09 AM
by the way

if you've the remotest interest in all this kind of skullduggery you should start by checking out the late Doug Pappas' fantastic website [url]http://roadsidephotos.sabr.org/baseball/index.htm[/url]

Vic Sage
Jun 22 2005 11:24 AM

]Maybe I'm addressing everyone who hotly disputed my claim that Piazza was unlikely to drive in 80 runs last year. Maybe I'm addressing those folks who lost several hundred dollars to me backing up that foolish hope.


well, since you're apparently talking to me...

1) i don't go to see Mike Piazza ...i go to see my baseball team;

2) i never said we shouldn't trade him, i just disagreed as to the value of a good hitting catcher, even one in decline, so paying somebody to take him in exchange for a bag of balls (which YOU were advocating) was not a deal i was interested in;

3) That he's batted in the middle of the order for too long has had to do with the dearth of other options, but now has more to do with Randolph's inability to write out a lineup card. WWSB has had Reyes 1st and Wright hitting 7th-8th most of the season! It should come as no great surprise he's also been slow to adjust to Mike's continuing decline;

4) Despite his decline, Mike Piazza is currently 4TH IN RUNS CREATED amongst major league catchers, trailing only I-rod, posada and Varitek;

5) His presence hasn't kept us from the post-season, and it hasn't kept us from spending money, it has simply allowed us to continue to have one of the better hitting catchers in baseball in our lineup.

6) I don't see a steady diet of Ramon Castro being of much help to this franchise, now or in the future;

7) I don't care what hat Mike wears in the HOF;

8) I'd be happy to trade him or nor re-sign him if we have better catching options. But we don't right now. Whether we re-sign Mike should have to do with what our needs are, who is available, and at what price, and what we think a reasonable expectation is for his production next year. I take no position on it right now. Although a .260/20hr/60rbi season still makes him a productive catcher, as long as he's hitting 6th-7th, not 4th.

on a broader subject, your advocacy of "dumping" the best hitting catcher in baseball the year after he lead us to the WS (after 2 prior playoff seasons) was met with derision, and rightfully so.

In 2001, Mike was (again) 1st amongst catchers in RC (by a large margin);
in 2002, he was 2nd (just behind Posada);
in 2003, he was injured
in 2004, he was 8th
and this year, he's 4th

I don't see, from this, a catcher we needed to dump. Instead of signing other mediocrities to big money, perhaps we should've built the team more wisely, and then Mike's contributions would've been more valuable in the context of better teams.

You've gone on record as being an advocate for youth over experience, for rebuilding on principle, for your willingness to suffer 100-loss seasons as long as it might increase our future chances of winning the WS.

I, on the other hand, am not tolerant of 100 loss seasons, i don't value youth for its own sake, nor discredit experience, and, in the biggest media market in the world, Wilpon can afford to keep a team winning at the same time that we cultivate the players in our farm system... it doesn't have to be one or the other. I've lived thru rebuilding that led to nothing, and it was based on ownership's UNWILLINGNESS to participate fully in the economics of baseball at the time.

You can continue to rend your clothes over our Snidely Whiplash owner, and prop yourself up as the vindicated martyr, but i'm bored by the act.

KC
Jun 22 2005 11:42 AM

So Bret, let me get this straight. You drag me through the muck on the
forum in a borderline character assasination in this thread but no men-
tion of the hostilities you have towards me and some Mets fans when
we see each other in real life? Saturday would have been the perfect
opporitunity to hold a kangaroo court. There were several CPFr's avail-
able to jury and a couple of colorful disinterested guests as well.

Uncle Ted or whatever his name was could have been judge.

Willets Point
Jun 22 2005 12:07 PM

]Hey, I never claimed to be well. Look at my
avatar, I have my arm around, and I'm shaking hands
with, a man with a plastic baseball head.


And Mr. Met looks so happy to be with you too!

duan
Jun 22 2005 12:17 PM
all this kinda started

when I said this

"I don't know for how much money, but I'd really like to try and keep mike for another season. I kinda feel I'd love him to retire as the mets leading HR hitter of all time, the only way that could happen would be if their was a Piazza playing for the mets in 2006.

*point of reference here, I went to Shea first in 1997, but I really started following the mets in the summer of 1998 when I came back to NYC in June"

and then (in response to edgy/bigtrain whatever he's called now over here suggestion that the mets are gonna wait till the offseason before worrying about resigning Piazza) this

"definitely
they should wait and see, I'm just saying that emotionally, he's my strongest bond to the franchise, and I'd like three things to happen

1. Him to retire as a met
2. Him to retire with a met record, not just a mlb record
3. Him to go to HOF as a met

and if we don't keep him in 2006 i'd say he may well not do any of those things."

I was expressing what I'd like to see happen - not what will happen, not what should happen (although, at the end of the season I'd hope that it'd be the right decision - however, if in the cold light of day it isn't that's fine, such is the way of the world)....

It comes from this, Johnny Giles was talking recently about what it meant to be a player and how all that really mattered in the long term was what you left as your legacy; he was very articulate about it, talking about how, he looks back, and feels that the Leeds team with which he dominated England in the late 60s & 70s had left a tarnished legacy (due to their propensity for the nastier side of the game) and how he regrets it. In a sense, to him, the glory was fleeting, a legacy is forever. He knows that he played in one of the greatest football teams of all time, and yet they don't get treated with the same respect as say Matt Busby's Manchester Utd or even Liverpool of the 1980s.


I'm sure Sal's going to say now that Piazza's tarnishing his own legacy by his less then stellar play over the last 24 months. That's fine, he can think that. [/url]

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2005 12:37 PM
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In other news, Braden Looper's save last night, getting his tormentor Bobby Abreu, leaves him ensconced as the ninth most prolific savior in Mets history.

His season is cureently alone as the 37th saviest in Met history. The future awaits.

All-Time Met Saves in a Career

1) John Franco: 276
2) Armando Benitez: 160
3) Jesse Orosco: 107
4) Tug McGraw: 85
5) Roger McDowell: 84
6) Neil Allen: 69
7) Skip Lockwood: 65
Braden Looper Projected to End of Season: 61.4
8) Randy Myers: 56
9) Braden Looper: 43
10) Doug Sisk: 33
=orange]Braden Looper at Start of Season: 29
11) Ron Taylor: 28
12) Bob Apodaca: 26
13) Danny Frisella: 22
14) Anthony Young: 18
15) Doug Henry: 13
16) Harry Parker: 11
T17) Jeff Reardon: 10
T17) Turk Wendell: 10
T19) Dale Murray: 9
T19) Alejandro Peña: 9
T21) Ed Glynn: 8
T21) Greg McMichael: 8
T23) Cal Koonce: 7
T23) Rick Baldwin: 7
T23) Terry Leach: 7
T23) Rick Aguilera: 7
T23) Mike Maddux: 7
T23) Dave Weathers: 7
T29) Ken Sanders: 6
T29) Dennis Cook: 6
T31) Jerry Koosman: 5
T31) Jeff Innis: 5
T31) Mike Stanton 5
All-Time Met Saves in a Season

1) Armando Benitez, 2001:43
2) Armando Benitez, 2000: 41
3) John Franco, 1998: 38
4) John Franco, 1997: 36
T5) John Franco, 1990: 33
T5) Armando Benitez, 2002: 33
Braden Looper Projected to End of Season: 32.4
7) Jesse Orosco, 1984: 31
T8) John Franco, 1991: 30
T8) John Franco, 1994: 30
T10) John Franco, 1995: 29
T10) Braden Looper, 2004: 29
12) John Franco, 1996: 28
13) Tug McGraw, 1972: 27
14) Randy Myers, 1988: 26
T15) Tug McGraw, 1973: 25
T15) Roger McDowell, 1987: 25
17) Randy Myers, 1989: 24
T18) Roger McDowell, 1986: 22
T18) Neil Allen, 1980: 22
T18) Armando Benitez, 1999: 22
T21) Jesse Orosco, 1986: 21
T21) Armando Benitez, 2003: 21
23) Skip Lockwood, 1977: 20
T24) Skip Lockwood, 1976: 19
T24) Neil Allen, 1982: 19
T24) John Franco, 1999: 19
27) Neil Allen, 1981: 18
T28) Roger McDowell, 1985: 17
T28) Jesse Orosco, 1983: 17
T28) Jesse Orosco, 1985: 17
T31) Jesse Orosco, 1987: 16
T31) Roger McDowell, 1988: 16
T33) Anthony Young, 1992: 15
T33) Skip Lockwood, 1978: 15
T33) Doug Sisk, 1984: 15
T33) John Franco, 1992: 15
37) Braden Looper, 2005: 14
T38) Ron Taylor, 1970: 13
T38) Ron Taylor, 1969: 13
T38) Bob Apodaca, 1975: 13

cooby
Jun 22 2005 12:42 PM

Oh yeah, this thread had an actual point to it once

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 22 2005 01:04 PM

Just curious: Combined team saves in one season? Which season wins?

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 03:16 PM

Borderline character assassination, KC? I've never advocated the assasination of a borderline in my life. All I said about you (recently, here) was

"So maybe I'm addressing KC here. He doesn;'t want to credit me for having converted him? Fine. I don't need credit. " That's borderline? What border did I cross? You wrote a snide comment quoting me in your sig line, and I'm reminding you that you were totally wrong to cite it as if I were behaving like a jerk when I was merely being accurate.

And,Vic? I mostly agree with you here, except that your policy of not tolerating awful 100-loss teams has been our typical fate the last few years anyway, or 90-loss teams for sure, so I don't think your desired policies are giving you what you wanted. (Fabulous seats last night, btw. A funny spectacular show--we enjoyed it mucho.) I'm taking a leaf from your book here--being critical of policies while refusing to suggest specific moves I would have made, on the sensible grounds that I'm not salaried to make decsions on personnel but somebody is and that somebody isn't doing his job very well.

Fellas, calm yourselves down here. I don;t like the Mets' policies, and I'm trying to say how and why. If you get caught defending policies I don't like, relax--we're talking baseball. And if you dont want me attaching names to these threads, that's fine with me, but would you please speak to the hordes who demand to know who I'm addressing here? (As if that matters much---if it applies to you, then respond--and if not, then STFU), who's talking to you?) It's not like I'm going out of my way to bring you in by name--but what would you have me do when Dickshot asks who I'm talking to? Tell him "The voices in my head"? Maybe I should just say "You're disingenuous" and let it go at that.

OE: And I t hoght we were getting into some good stuff with the Fred/business issues. I really find that stuff murky and confusing, and I find it hard to accept that he gets cut the kind of slack he does around here for his penny-pinching, last-place-for-five-years ways.

Willets Point
Jun 22 2005 03:55 PM

Well said, Bret.

Just curious, what motivated to you to start posting here again regularly? You had stated some good reasons not to when we met last month.

KC
Jun 22 2005 04:03 PM

Of course it's well said, he an excellent wordsmith.

He's also full of crap and gets these circular arguments going with the
whole martyr thing and I'll have no part of it. I have to admit, I'm quite
fucking pissed off at myself for being drawn in one more time.

No one here really did anything wrong to him and if anything it pales
in comparison to things he's done to posters in the past.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 04:39 PM

Why, thank you, KC.

Willets Point wrote:
What motivated to you to start posting here again regularly? You had stated some good reasons not to when we met last month.


I don't know. I think I had to do some real work, and this seemed like more fun. Maybe you'll remind me of my reasons next Wednesday? I may have been right the first time. (Also I was planning to go incognito, but Widey Dickshot blew me out of the water prematurely.)

Anyway, this needn't be about me nor about you guys. All's I was trying to establish was that Edgy and Norrin clearly felt last year that Piazza was a good bet to drive in 80 runs. Now, unless you accept the thesis that they're nuts or awful baseball judges, and I don't, there must have been some GMs who also considered that a real possibility. We should have found one of those GMs and figured out what was the maximum price we could extract from him. The Mets felt otherwise, mainly I think because of the non-baseball logic that Soupy is offering in this thread. I think that non-baseball logic requires us to feel bad for Freddy's bank account (maybe trading Piazza would have cost him some walkup sales in 2004, and that's just too damned bad for poor Fred.) This ongoing policy, of keeping your washed up veterans and maintaining a buyer's stance, and NOT DELIVERING YEAR AFTER YEAR, is getting very old, yet I don't hear any calls to back up the truck and endure a rebuilding season (which translates as A season in which we don't pretend to be a contender.) As long as that's unacceptable to you, and I haven't heard cries for it, I think we're on this treadmill to fifth place. That's why I;'m rooting for the Mets to lose--as long as you're taking solace in a fourth place finish or a .500 record through mid-May as positive signs, we're getting force-fed more of the same crap from Fred and Omar and the rest of the fakers.

Bret Sabermetric
Jun 22 2005 05:13 PM

Anyway I don't mean to hog this thread nor hijack it.

Maybe I should start another thread about Soupy's thesis, and whether you accept it: Are the Mets really a small part of a mega-real estate deal, and it doesn't matter if Fred's baseball biz is successful or not (to him)? By successful, I mean he wants a team that appears competitive, and puts fannies in the seats, and he'll take a pennant if it all shakes out that way by chance every so often, but there's no commitment to spending money to push the team into strong contention. The 80 to 90 win range is just fine for Fred, keeps the income stream going, but the main prize is the franchise's role in building his real estate empire. Is that how you read this? Or is Soupy flat wrong, and Fred's as dedicated to putting a winning team out there every year?

Edgy DC
Jun 23 2005 01:12 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 23 2005 05:00 PM

All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Season

1) Roger Cedeño, 1999: 66
2) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 58
3) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 54
4) Lance Johnson, 1996: 50
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 47.52
5) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 46
6) Frank Taveras: 1979: 42
T7) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T7) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 41
9) Vince Coleman, 1993: 38
T10) Vince Coleman, 1991: 37
T10) Rickey Henderson, 1999: 37
12) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 36
T13) Howard Johnson, 1990: 34
T13) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34
15) Lenny Randle, 1977: 33
T16) Howard Johnson, 1987: 32
T16) Frank Taveras, 1980: 32
T16) Wally Backman, 1984: 32
T19) Juan Samuel, 1989: 31
T19) Tommie Agee, 1970: 31
T19) Lenny Dykstra, 1986: 31
T22) Howard Johnson, 1991: 30
T22) Lenny Dykstra, 1988: 30
T22) Wally Backman, 1985: 30
25) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 29
T26) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 28
T26) Tommie Agee, 1971: 28
T26) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 28
T29) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 27
T29) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 27
T31) Gregg Jefferies, 1991: 26
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 26
T33) John Stearns, 1978: 25
T33) Mookie Wilson, 1986: 25
T33) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25
T36) Vince Coleman, 1992: 24
T36) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 24
T36) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 24
T39) Howard Johnson, 1988: 23
T39) Steve Henderson, 1980: 23
T39) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 23
T39) Cleon Jones, 1968: 23
T43) Jose Reyes, 2005: 22
T43) Howard Johnson, 1992: 22
T43) Joe Foy, 1970 22
T43) Lee Mazzilli, 1977: 22
T43) Mike Cameron, 2004: 22
T48) Brett Butler, 1995: 21
T48) Gregg Jefferies, 1989: 21
T48) Mookie Wilson, 1987: 21
T48) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 21
All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 281
2) Howard Johnson: 202
3) Darryl Strawberry: 191
4) Lee Mazzilli: 152
5) Lenny Dykstra: 116
6) Bud Harrelson: 115
7) Wally Backman: 106
8) Roger Cedeño: 105
9) Vince Coleman: 99
10) Tommie Agee: 92
T11) Cleon Jones: 91
T11) John Stearns: 91
13) Frank Taveras: 90
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 69.52
14) Kevin McReynolds: 67
15) Lance Johnson: 65
16) Gregg Jefferies: 63
17) Steve Henderson: 55
18) Jose Reyes: 54
19) Lenny Randle: 47
T20) Daryl Boston: 45
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 45
22) Keith Miller: 44
23) Rickey Henderson: 42
24) Bob Bailor: 40
25) Joel Youngblood: 39
26) Wayne Garrett: 33
T27) Hubie Brooks: 31
T27) Juan Samuel: 31
T29) Dave Kingman: 29
T29) Bernard Gilkey: 29
T31) Rey Ordóñez: 28
T31) Mike Cameron: 28
33) Ken Boswell: 26
T34) Carl Everett: 25
T34) Brian McRae: 25
36) Brian Giles: 23
Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 22
T37) Joe Christopher: 22
T37) Joe Foy: 22
T37) Joe McEwing: 22
T37) Roberto Alomar: 22

Willets Point
Jun 23 2005 01:59 PM

Geez Louise, Cedeno never made it into the top 48 on that list in any of his other seasons with the Mets. What a blip!

Edgy DC
Jun 23 2005 03:08 PM

Not shown: T33) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25

Willets Point
Jun 23 2005 03:14 PM

Oops, didn't notice the snip.

Edgy DC
Jun 23 2005 03:37 PM

Still, "The Bilp" is a good Cedeño nickname.

Edgy DC
Jun 23 2005 05:08 PM

I filled in the gap above and also added the career list.

With three stolen bases today, Reyes has left behind the historic 21-steal seasons of Gregg Jefferies '89, Mookie Wilson '87, and Kevin McReynolds '88 (though K-Mac was a record 21-21 that year). Not shown but also downgraded today were Brian McRae '98, Bob Bailor '82, and Lee Mazzilli '78 (all 20), Darryl Strawberry's rookie year of 1983 (19), and Jose's own 19-steals-between-injuries campaign last year.

The career list shows Jose breathing down the neck of Steve Henderson, and there's really nothing Hendu can do about it. There's a big gap between McReynolds in 14th place with 67 and former Met single-season record holder Frank Taveras with 90. Jose projects to reach that gap but crossing it looks to be a story for another season.

Edgy DC
Jun 24 2005 11:54 AM

It's interesting, but it seems that part of where Piazza's home run power is going is into doubles. He's on a pace to produce the heighest doubles total of his career.

All-Time Met Hits in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 1,418
2) Cleon Jones: 1,188
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 1,136
4) Mookie Wilson: 1,112
Mike Piazza projected to end of season: 1,063
5) Bud Harrelson: 1,029
6) Darryl Strawberry: 1,025
7) Howard Johnson: 997
8) Jerry Grote: 994
9) Mike Piazza: 988
10) Keith Hernandez: 939
Mike Piazza at start of season: 928
All-Time Met Doubles in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 225
2) Howard Johnson: 214
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 212
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 206
4) Darryl Strawberry: 187
5) Mike Piazza: 186
6) Cleon Jones: 182
7) Mookie Wilson: 170
Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 170
8) Keith Hernandez: 159
9) Kevin McReynolds: 153
10) John Stearns: 152

Edgy DC
Jun 24 2005 12:13 PM

Pedro's aiming at breaking into what has been thus far a pretty exclusive three-man club in the top ten.

All-Time Mets Strikeouts in a Season

1) Tom Seaver, 1971: 289
2) Tom Seaver, 1970: 283
3) Dwight Gooden, 1984: 276
4) Dwight Gooden, 1985: 268
Pedro Martinez Projected to End of Season: 256.5
5) Tom Seaver, 1973: 251
6) Tom Seaver, 1972: 249
7) Tom Seaver, 1975: 243
8) David Cone, 1991: 241
9) Tom Seaver, 1976: 235
T10) David Cone, 1990: 233
T10) Dwight Gooden, 1990: 223...

...T97) Jack Fisher, 1967: 117
T97) Masato Yoshii, 1998: 117
T97) Dick Selma, 1968: 117
T97) Steve Trachsel, 2004: 117
T97) Al Leiter, 2004: 117
T102) Jack Fisher, 1965: 116
T102) Bobby Jones, 1996: 116
T104) Bobby Jones, 1998: 115
T104) Jack Fisher, 1964: 115
T106) Jason Isringhausen, 1996: 114
T106) Pete Harnisch, 1996: 114
T106) Walt Terrell, 1984: 114
T106) Pedro Martinez, 2005: 114
T110) Pete Falcone, 1979: 113
T110) Rick Reed, 1997: 113

Edgy DC
Jun 24 2005 09:14 PM

Tonight's homer was Cliff Floyd's 18th, his magic number as a Met.

Let's hope he can re-write that rule.

All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

1) 1996 Todd Hundley: 41
2) 1999 Mike Piazza: 40
2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 39.95
T3) 1988 Darryl Strawberry: 39
T3) 1987 Darryl Strawberry: 39...
T5) 1991 Howard Johnson: 38
T5) 2000 Mike Piazza: 38
T7) 1990 Darryl Strawberry: 37
T7) 1982 Dave Kingman: 37
T7) 1976 Dave Kingman: 37
T10) 1989 Howard Johnson: 36
T10) 1987 Howard Johnson: 36
T10) 1975 Dave Kingman: 36
T10) 2001 Mike Piazza: 36
T14) 1993 Bobby Bonilla: 34
T14) 1962 Frank Thomas: 34...

...T63) Bobby Bonilla, 1992: 19
T63) Rusty Staub, 1974: 19
T63) Ron Swoboda, 1965: 19
T63) Rusty Staub, 1975: 19
T63) John Olerud, 1999: 19
T63) Jeromy Burnitz, 2002: 19
T69) Bernard Gilkey, 1997: 18
T69) Ryan Thompson, 1994: 18
T69) Bobby Bonilla, 1995: 18
T69) Keith Hernandez, 1987: 18
T69) Derek Bell, 2000: 18
T69) Jeromy Burnitz, 2003: 18
T69) Cliff Floyd, 2003: 18
T69) Cliff Floyd, 2004: 18
T69) Cliff Floyd 2005 to Date:18
T78) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1998: 17
T78) John Milner, 1972: 17
T78) Willie Montanez, 1978: 17
T78) Jim Hickman, 1963: 17
T78) Jay Payton, 2000: 17
T78) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2001: 17
All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) Mike Piazza: 207
30 Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
16) Robin Ventura: 77
Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 75.95
17) Rusty Staub: 75
18) Ron Swoboda: 69
19) Lee Mazzilli: 68
20) Jeff Kent: 67
21) John Olerud: 63
T22) Jim Hickman: 60
T22) Mookie Wilson: 60
T24) Wayne Garrett: 55
T24) Butch Huskey: 55
26) Cliff Floyd: 54
27) Jeromy Burnitz: 53
T28) Frank Thomas: 52
T28) Bernard Gilkey: 52
30) John Stearns: 46
31) Donn Clendenon: 45
32) Hubie Brooks: 44
33) Eddie Murray: 43
T34) Art Shamsky: 42
T3r) Gregg Jefferies: 42
36) Todd Zeile: 41
37) Ryan Thompson: 39
38) Joel Youngblood: 38
=orange]Cliff Floyd at Season's Start: 36
T39) Charley Smith: 36
T39) Rico Brogna: 36
T39) Mike Cameron: 36
T42) Jerry Grote: 35
T42) Steve Henderson: 35
T42) Tim Teufel: 35
T42) Benny Agbayani: 35

Edgy DC
Jun 25 2005 03:21 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 25 2005 03:34 PM

Floyd's season passes nine others with that homer, including two of his own. He currently projects to put up the homerist season in the Mets in their 44-year history.

All-Time, as a Met, he has tied Wayne Garrett and Butch Huskey.

Stay freakin' tuned.

All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 41.59
1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
2) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T3) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T3) Darryl Strawberry 1987: 39
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T10) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T10) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T10) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T14) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T14) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34...

...T52) Brian McRae, 1998 21
T52) Jeff Kent, 1993: 21
T52) George Foster, 1985: 21
T52) Robin Ventura, 2001: 21
T52) Richard Hidalgo, 2004: 21
T57) Jeff Kent, 1995: 20
T57) Bobby Bonilla, 1994: 20
T57) Gary Carter, 1987: 20
T57) John Milner, 1974: 20
T57) Charley Smith, 1964: 20
T57) Mike Piazza, 2004: 20
T63) Bobby Bonilla, 1992: 19
T63) Rusty Staub, 1974: 19
T63) Ron Swoboda, 1965: 19
T63) Rusty Staub, 1975: 19
T63) John Olerud, 1999: 19
T63) Jeromy Burnitz, 2002: 19
T63) Cliff Floyd 2005 to Date:19
T70) Bernard Gilkey, 1997: 18
T70) Ryan Thompson, 1994: 18
T70) Bobby Bonilla, 1995: 18
T70) Keith Hernandez, 1987: 18
T70) Derek Bell, 2000: 18
T70) Jeromy Burnitz, 2003: 18
T70) Cliff Floyd, 2003: 18
T70) Cliff Floyd, 2004: 18
All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) Mike Piazza: 207
30 Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 77.59
16) Robin Ventura: 77
17) Rusty Staub: 75
18) Ron Swoboda: 69
19) Lee Mazzilli: 68
20) Jeff Kent: 67
21) John Olerud: 63
T22) Jim Hickman: 60
T22) Mookie Wilson: 60
T24) Wayne Garrett: 55
T24) Butch Huskey: 55
T24) Cliff Floyd: 55
27) Jeromy Burnitz: 53
T28) Frank Thomas: 52
T28) Bernard Gilkey: 52
30) John Stearns: 46
31) Donn Clendenon: 45
32) Hubie Brooks: 44
33) Eddie Murray: 43
T34) Art Shamsky: 42
T3r) Gregg Jefferies: 42
36) Todd Zeile: 41
37) Ryan Thompson: 39
38) Joel Youngblood: 38
=orange]Cliff Floyd at Season's Start: 36
T39) Charley Smith: 36
T39) Rico Brogna: 36
T39) Mike Cameron: 36

KC
Jun 25 2005 03:29 PM

I have to admit I thought about Hundley's mark this afternoon. I quieted my
mind ... too early for such thoughts.

Edgy DC
Jun 25 2005 07:02 PM

Now for the post-game. I'll start with the obvious, rebooting Cliff Floyd's pace to account for his second homer. Remember T64) Bobby Bonilla 1992 and Rusty Staub, 1974? Cliff is so over those seasons? How about Ron Swoboda's rookie season of 1965? His once Met rookie record of 19 homers is now tied for 64th all-time thanks to Cliff's smackdown of Yankee pitching. Likewise Rusty Staub 1975, John Olerud, 1999, and Jeromy Burnitz 2002. Dustbin of history.

On the all-time list, he has passed both Garrett and Huskey.

All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 43.78
1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
2) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T3) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T3) Darryl Strawberry 1987: 39
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T10) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T10) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T10) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T14) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T14) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34...

...T45) John Olerud, 1998: 22
T45) John Olerud, 1997: 22
T45) Rico Brogna, 1995: 22
T45) Kevin McReynolds 1989: 22
T45) Donn Clendenon, 1970: 22
T45) Dave Kingman, 1981: 22
T45) Todd Zeile, 2000: 22
T52) Brian McRae, 1998 21
T52) Jeff Kent, 1993: 21
T52) George Foster, 1985: 21
T52) Robin Ventura, 2001: 21
T52) Richard Hidalgo, 2004: 21
T57) Jeff Kent, 1995: 20
T57) Bobby Bonilla, 1994: 20
T57) Gary Carter, 1987: 20
T57) John Milner, 1974: 20
T57) Charley Smith, 1964: 20
T57) Mike Piazza, 2004: 20
T57) Cliff Floyd 2005 to Date: 20
T64) Bobby Bonilla, 1992: 19
T64) Rusty Staub, 1974: 19
T64) Ron Swoboda, 1965: 19
T64) Rusty Staub, 1975: 19
T64) John Olerud, 1999: 19
T64) Jeromy Burnitz, 2002: 19
All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) Mike Piazza: 207
30 Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 79.78
16) Robin Ventura: 77
17) Rusty Staub: 75
18) Ron Swoboda: 69
19) Lee Mazzilli: 68
20) Jeff Kent: 67
21) John Olerud: 63
T22) Jim Hickman: 60
T22) Mookie Wilson: 60
24) Cliff Floyd: 56
T25) Wayne Garrett: 55
T25) Butch Huskey: 55
27) Jeromy Burnitz: 53
T28) Frank Thomas: 52
T28) Bernard Gilkey: 52
30) John Stearns: 46
31) Donn Clendenon: 45
32) Hubie Brooks: 44
33) Eddie Murray: 43
T34) Art Shamsky: 42
T3r) Gregg Jefferies: 42
36) Todd Zeile: 41
37) Ryan Thompson: 39
38) Joel Youngblood: 38
=orange]Cliff Floyd at Season's Start: 36
T39) Charley Smith: 36
T39) Rico Brogna: 36
T39) Mike Cameron: 36



Now for other news. Did you know, a lot is happening this season on the doubles front? Just to keep things jake, I'm going to track three guys at once.

Because of the nature of doubles (most everybody who starts can reach at least the high teens in doubles totals over a season), these guys are still way back in the pack, all-time, but they're projecting to three of the doubliest seasons in Met history. Obviously, it's going to take some health for Piazza to keep going, but it's not too hard to imagine Beltran picking up his pace.

1) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 44
David Wright Projected to End of Season: 43.78
T2) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T2) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 41
T4) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 40
T4) Edgardo Alfonzo 40
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 39.41
6) John Olerud, 1999: 39
7) Robin Ventura, 1999: 38
T8) Eddie Murray, 1992: 37
T8) Howard Johnson, 1990: 37
T8) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 37
T8) Felix Millan, 1975: 37
T8) Joel Youngblood, 1979: 37
T13) Brian McRae, 1998: 36
T13) John Olerud, 1998: 36
T13) Rusty Staub, 1973: 36
T13) Todd Zeile, 2000: 36
T13) Ty Wigginton, 2003: 36
Carlos Beltran Projected to End of Season: 35.03
T18) John Olerud, 1997: 34
T18) Howard Johnson, 1991: 34
T18) Keith Hernandez, 1985: 34
T18) Keith Hernandez, 1986: 34
T18) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34...

...T147) Rey Ordóñez, 1998: 20
T147) Jeff Kent, 1996: 20
T147) Kevin Elster, 1990: 20
T147) Tim Teufel, 1988: 20
T147) John Milner, 1977: 20
T147) Charley Smith, 1965: 20
T147) David Wright, 2005: 20
T147) Ken Boswell, 1971: 20
T147) Wayne Garrett, 1973: 20
T147) Ed Kranepool, 1971: 20
T147) Tim Teufel, 1986: 20
T147) Robin Ventura, 2001: 20...

...T181) Butch Huskey, 1998: 18
T181) Dick Schofield, 1992: 18
T181) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 18
T181) Gary Carter, 1987: 18
T181) Elliott Maddox, 1978: 18
T181) Del Unser, 1975: 18
T181) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 18
T181) Donn Clendenon, 1970: 18
T181) Jerry Grote, 1968: 18
T181) Joe Christopher, 1965: 18
T181) Jim Hickman, 1965: 18
T181) Jim Hickman, 1962: 18
T181) Hubie Brooks, 1983: 18
T181) Mike Piazza, 2005: 18
T181) Wally Backman, 1986: 18
T181) Howard Johnson, 1985: 18
T181) Benny Agbayani, 1999: 18
T181) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 18
T181) Jeromy Burnitz, 2003: 18
T181) Jason Phillips, 2004: 18...

...T221) Butch Huskey, 1996: 16
T221) Kevin Elster, 1991: 16
T221) Daryl Boston, 1991: 16
T221) Keith Hernandez, 1988: 16
T221) Gary Carter, 1988: 16
T221) Claudell Washington, 1980: 16
T221) Elliott Maddox, 1980: 16
T221) Steve Henderson, 1979: 16
T221) Steve Henderson, 1977: 16
T221) Lenny Randle, 1978: 16
T221) Joe Torre, 1975: 16
T221) Bud Harrelson, 1967: 16
T221) Carlos Beltran, 2005: 16
T221) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 16
T221) Ed Kranepool, 1975: 16
T221) Cleon Jones, 1966: 16
T221) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 16
T221) Jay Payton, 2001: 16
T221) Todd Zeile, 2004: 16
T221) Jose Reyes, 2004: 16

Iubitul
Jun 25 2005 07:13 PM

I really hope Cliff passes Hundley - I always believed that Hundley's numbers were steroid assisted...

soupcan
Jun 25 2005 07:21 PM

I'm surprised to read that lubby.

Never thought about it myself but these days who knows?

Edgy DC
Jun 28 2005 12:09 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2005 03:20 PM

Using our PotG statistics, Mike Piazza has already moved from the ninth-most accomplished Met to the sixth-most this season, and will, barring a catastrophic injury, certainly pass fellow-31 John Franco in fifth place.

This was expected, as the fifth-11th guys are all really tightly packed. But it does underscore one thing. In Mets history, there are four indisputable legends, for better or worse, then there are bunch of other cool guys.

Even in the unlikely circumstance of three more seasons plus copious health, Piazza would still be unlikely to reach the top four.

The next highest active guy is Cliff Floyd, who, judging by the PotG pointage, has climbed from 99 to 73, just ahead of Art Shamsky.

But the next ones capable of making a run at the top four appear to be Reyes (already at 118) and Wright (134).

a shocking turn or fortune for the likes of Jae Weong-Seo (128) could also put him in the mix.

Elster88
Jun 28 2005 03:14 PM

Wright's first full season and he's on almost pace to tie the all-time doubles record? Not bad, kid.

Edgy DC
Jun 28 2005 03:36 PM

By the way, the countdown to 1,000 Met hits has begun for Mike Piazza:

Hit Number 991:
Piazza singles against Paul Quantrill of the Yankees in the top of the seventh on an 0-2 pitch. The hit is a on a ground ball to center fielder Bernie Williams, with Cliff Floyd on first and the Mets up 7-2 with no outs. Piazza would come around to score on a sacrifice fly by David Wright in a game the Mets would win 10-2, a game which Alex Rodriguez had pledged would see the Yankees come out "like warriors."

Edgy DC
Jun 28 2005 07:18 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jun 28 2005 07:44 PM

Hit Number 992:
6/28/2005: Piazza singles against Geoff Geary of the Phillies in the bottom of the fifth on an 3-1 pitch. The hit is a on a ground ball to center against a drawn-in infield, with Carlos Beltran scoring from third to extend the Mets' lead to 3-1. The RBI was the 32nd of Piazza's season and the 625th of his Met career. Piazza would go to third on a followup single to right by Marlon Anderson and score on a hard single to right by David Wright.

Edgy DC
Jun 28 2005 07:43 PM

Hit Number 993:
6/28/2005: Piazza goes old school homering on a 1-0 inside fastball against Amaury Telmaco of the Phillies in the bottom of the sixth. The shot is on a deep drive into the picnic area and was caught by nine-year-old-ish kid wearing a black Mets Jersey with "13" on it. Cliff Floyd was on first and the shot put the Mets up 8-1. The RBIs were the 33rd and 34th of Piazza's season and the 626th and 627th of his Met career.

seawolf17
Jun 30 2005 12:34 PM

All Time Mets Triples

1. Mookie Wilson 62
2. Bud Harrelson 45
3. Cleon Jones 33
4. Steve Henderson 31
5. Darryl Strawberry 30
6. Lance Johnson 27
7. Doug Flynn 26
8. Ed Kranepool 25
9. Lee Mazzilli 22
10. Ron Swoboda 20
11. Wayne Garrett 20
12. Jerry Grote 18
13. Joel Youngblood 18
14. Howard Johnson 18
15. Lenny Dykstra 17
16. Rey Ordóñez 17
17. Jose Reyes 15
17. Ken Boswell 15
18. Lenny Randle 15

Frayed Knot
Jun 30 2005 12:46 PM

Hit Number 994:
6/30/2005: 5th inning - Piazza smacks one down the 3rd base line, but is thrown out trying to stretch into a double.

seawolf17
Jun 30 2005 01:02 PM

All Time Mets K's:

1. Tom Seaver 2541
2. Dwight Gooden 1875
3. Jerry Koosman 1799
4. Sid Fernandez 1449
5. David Cone 1172
6. Ron Darling 1148
7. Al Leiter 1106
8. Jon Matlack 1023
9. Bobby Jones 714
10. Craig Swan 671
11. Tug McGraw 618
12. John Franco 592
13. Rick Reed 590
14. Gary Gentry 563
15. Al Jackson 561
16. Jesse Orosco 506
17. Nolan Ryan 493
18. Steve Trachsel 477
19. Jack Fisher 475
20. Bob Ojeda 459
21. Armando Benitez 456
22. Jim McAndrew 408
23. Dave Mlicki 402
24. Pat Zachry 391
25. Bret Saberhagen 388
26. Frank Viola 387
27. Ray Sadecki 380
28. Pete Falcone 379
29. Skip Lockwood 368
30. Rick Aguilera 351
31. Glendon Rusch 313
32. Danny Frisella 296
33. Neil Allen 285
34. Randy Myers 264
35. Ed Lynch 259
36. Turk Wendell 259
37. Dick Selma 253
38. Dennis Cook 234
39. Tom Glavine 234
40. Galen Cisco 230
41. Tracy Stallard 228
42. Roger McDowell 228
43. Roger Craig 226
44. Jason Isringhausen 225
45. Masato Yoshii 222
46. Don Cardwell 221
47. Nino Espinosa 215
48. Mark Clark 214
49. Wally Whitehurst 212
50. Pete Harnisch 208
51. Jay Hook 207
52. Pete Schourek 199
53. Ron Taylor 197
54. Bob Apodaca 197
55. Terry Leach 194
56. Jeff Innis 192
57. Walt Terrell 181
58. Jae Seo 179
59. Kevin Appier 172
60. Pedro Astacio 172
61. Doug Sisk 163
62. Dave Weathers 161
63. Bob Shaw 153
64. Mike Scott 151
65. Mike Hampton 151
66. Anthony Young 146
67. Harry Parker 143
68. Greg McMichael 143
69. Jeff Reardon 139
70. Dennis Ribant 132
71. Cal Koonce 132
72. Tom Hausman 131
73. Carl Willey 128
74. Aaron Heilman 128
75. Bob Miller 127
76. George Stone 127
77. Pat Mahomes 127
78. Kevin Kobel 126
79. Alejandro Pena 125
80. Pedro Martinez 123

Edgy DC
Jun 30 2005 07:51 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 01 2005 06:39 AM

OK, let's do this right.

With his homerun last night, Cliff Floyd tied Brian McRae 1998, Jeff Kent 1993 (who says he never did it for the Mets?), George Foster 1985, Robin Ventura 2001, and Richard Hidalgo, 2004 with 21 homers, the 52nd round-trippiest total in Mets history.

On the career list, he remains three behind Mookie Hickman.

All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 43.62
1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
2) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T3) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T3) Darryl Strawberry 1987: 39
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T10) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T10) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T10) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T14) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T14) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34...

...T42) Mike Piazza, 1998: 23
T42) Howard Johnson, 1990: 23
T42) John Milner, 1973: 23
T45) John Olerud, 1998: 22
T45) John Olerud, 1997: 22
T45) Rico Brogna, 1995: 22
T45) Kevin McReynolds 1989: 22
T45) Donn Clendenon, 1970: 22
T45) Dave Kingman, 1981: 22
T45) Todd Zeile, 2000: 22
T52) Brian McRae, 1998 21
T52) Jeff Kent, 1993: 21
T52) Cliff Floyd 2005 to Date: 21
T52) George Foster, 1985: 21
T52) Robin Ventura, 2001: 21
T52) Richard Hidalgo, 2004: 21
T58) Jeff Kent, 1995: 20
T58) Bobby Bonilla, 1994: 20
T58) Gary Carter, 1987: 20
T58) John Milner, 1974: 20
T58) Charley Smith, 1964: 20
T58) Mike Piazza, 2004: 20
All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) Mike Piazza: 210
30 Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 79.62
16) Robin Ventura: 77
17) Rusty Staub: 75
18) Ron Swoboda: 69
19) Lee Mazzilli: 68
20) Jeff Kent: 67
21) John Olerud: 63
T22) Jim Hickman: 60
T22) Mookie Wilson: 60
24) Cliff Floyd: 57
T25) Wayne Garrett: 55
T25) Butch Huskey: 55
27) Jeromy Burnitz: 53
T28) Frank Thomas: 52
T28) Bernard Gilkey: 52
30) John Stearns: 46
31) Donn Clendenon: 45
32) Hubie Brooks: 44
33) Eddie Murray: 43
T34) Art Shamsky: 42
T3r) Gregg Jefferies: 42
36) Todd Zeile: 41
37) Ryan Thompson: 39
38) Joel Youngblood: 38
=orange]Cliff Floyd at Season's Start: 36
T39) Charley Smith: 36
T39) Rico Brogna: 36
T39) Mike Cameron: 36

Edgy DC
Jun 30 2005 08:01 PM

Three games from the half-way mark in the season, Jose Reyes already has the third highest triple total in Mets history. His pace isn't currently fast enough to overtake Lance Johnson 1996, but it is increasing.

Besides, Johnson 1996 was a fantastic year.

In terms of career, it sounds funny, but he's on a pace to come up just short of catching Ed Kranepool. Sounds funny, but we all know 'Pool had a 15.5 year head-start.

All-Time Met Triples in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 21
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 18.69
2) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 10
T3) Charlie Neal, 1962: 9
T3) Steve Henderson, 1978: 9
T3) Jose Reyes, 2005: 9
T3) Frank Taveras, 1979: 9
T3) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 9
T8) Joe Christopher, 1964: 8
T8) Joel Youngblood, 1970: 8
T8) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 8
T8) Cleon Jones, 1970: 8
T8) Len Randle, 1978: 8
T8) Doug Flynn, 1978: 8
T8) Steve Henderson, 1979: 8
T8) Doug Flynn, 1980: 8
T8) Steve Henderson, 1980: 8
T8) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 8
T8) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 8
T8) Vince Coleman, 1993: 8

All-Time Met Triples in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 62
2) Bud Harrelson: 45
3) Cleon Jones: 33
4) Steve Henderson: 31
5) Darryl Strawberry: 30
6) Lance Johnson: 27
7) Doug Flynn: 26
8) Ed Kranepool: 25
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 24.69
9) Lee Mazzilli: 22
T10) Ron Swoboda: 20
T10) Wayne Garrett: 20
T12) Jerry Grote: 18
T12) Joel Youngblood: 18
T12) Howard Johnson: 18
T15) Lenny Dykstra: 17
T15) Rey Ordóñez: 17
T17) Ken Boswell: 15
T17) Jose Reyes: 15
T17) Len Randle:15
T20) Joe Christopher: 14
T20) Tommie Agee: 14
T20) Ted Martinez: 14
T20) Mike Phillips: 14
T20) Wally Backman: 14
T20) Kevin McReynolds: 14
T20) Vince Coleman: 14
T20) Jose Vizcaino: 14
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 14...

...Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 6

Edgy DC
Jun 30 2005 08:13 PM

Big top-ten-type news here: Piazza's fifth-inning single was the 994th of his Met career, tying him with fellow-catcher Jerry Grote as the eighth hitliest Met of all time.

All-Time Met Hits in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 1,418
2) Cleon Jones: 1,188
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 1,136
4) Mookie Wilson: 1,112
Mike Piazza projected to end of season: 1,067.15
5) Bud Harrelson: 1,029
6) Darryl Strawberry: 1,025
7) Howard Johnson: 997
T8) Jerry Grote: 994
T8) Mike Piazza: 988
10) Keith Hernandez: 939
Mike Piazza at start of season: 928

Edgy DC
Jun 30 2005 08:34 PM

Finally, Pedro has already tied John Matlack '77 and Dave Mlicki '95 for 86th place on the all-time season strikeout list for the Mets. I like this list a lot, because it shows how guys simply have their level, with a lot of guys -- Al Leiter or Bobby Jones f'rinstance, but Nolan Ryan also -- having their healthy seasons bunched together.

Five ahead of Pedro is Armando Benitez, who struck out an amazing 128 in relief in 1999. In 78 innings!

All-Time Mets Strikeouts in a Season

1) Tom Seaver, 1971: 289
2) Tom Seaver, 1970: 283
3) Dwight Gooden, 1984: 276
4) Dwight Gooden, 1985: 268
Pedro Martinez Projected to End of Season: 255.46
5) Tom Seaver, 1973: 251
6) Tom Seaver, 1972: 249
7) Tom Seaver, 1975: 243
8) David Cone, 1991: 241
9) Tom Seaver, 1976: 235
T10) David Cone, 1990: 233
T10) Dwight Gooden, 1990: 223...

...67) Bret Saberhagen, 1994: 143
T68) Mark Clark, 1996: 142
T68) Al Jackson, 1963: 142
T68) Al Leiter, 2001: 142
71) Al Leiter, 2003: 139
72) Nolan Ryan, 1971: 137
73) Ron Darling, 1984: 136
74) Tom Seaver 1983: 135
T75) Gary Gentry, 1970: 134
T75) Sid Fernandez, 1987: 134
T77) Bob Ojeda, 1988: 133
T77) Nolan Ryan, 1968: 133
79) Frank Viola, 1991: 132
80) Armando Benitez, 1999: 128
T81) Jack Fisher, 1966: 127
T81) Bobby Jones, 1995: 127
T83) Bobby Jones, 1997: 125
T83) Craig Swan, 1978: 125
T83) Nolan Ryan, 1970 125
T86) Jon Matlack, 1977: 123
T86) Pedro Martinez, 2005: 123
T86) 1995 Dave Mlicki 123
89) 2000 Rick Reed 121
T90) 1965 Al Jackson 120
T90) 1976 Mickey Lolich 120
T90) 1972 Gary Gentry 120
T90) 1971 Ray Sadecki 120

Willets Point
Jun 30 2005 08:41 PM

Edgy DC wrote:

Five ahead of Pedro is Armando Benitez, who struck out an amazing 128 in relief in 1999. In 78 innings!


Musn't have been big innings.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 01 2005 05:49 AM

Piazza's June 30 hit was actually his 995th as a Met.

He's ahead of Grote and closing in on HoJo.

Can he get the five hits he needs to break the "Curse of the Thousand Hits"?

(For any furrowed brows out there: the only Mets to have reached 1,000 hits have been players who were produced by the Mets farm system. The nearest misses, Howard Johnson, Jerry Grote, and Keith Hernandez were all imports. If Piazza gets that 1,000th hit, he'll be the first imported Met to do so.)

Elster88
Jul 02 2005 05:17 PM

All-Time Mets Hits in a Single Season

1. 1996 Lance Johnson 227
2. 1998 John Olerud 197
3. 1975 Felix Millan 191
4. 1999 Edgardo Alfonzo 191
5. 1973 Felix Millan 185
6. 1985 Keith Hernandez 183
7. 1970 Tommie Agee 182
8. 1996 Bernard Gilkey 181
9. 1979 Lee Mazzilli 181
Jose Reyes projected to end of year … 180.22506
10. 1982 Mookie Wilson 178
11. 1999 Robin Ventura 177
12. 1983 Mookie Wilson 176
13. 2000 Edgardo Alfonzo 176
14. 1993 Eddie Murray 174
15. 1967 Tommy Davis 174
16. 1999 John Olerud 173
17. 1990 Gregg Jefferies 171
18. 1986 Keith Hernandez 171
19. 1984 Keith Hernandez 171
20. 1987 Keith Hernandez 170
21. 1979 Frank Taveras 167
22. 1989 Howard Johnson 164
23. 1969 Cleon Jones 164
24. 1997 Edgardo Alfonzo 163
25. 1987 Kevin McReynolds 163
26. 1964 Joe Christopher 163
27. 1973 Rusty Staub 163
28. 1975 Rusty Staub 162
29. 1980 Lee Mazzilli 162
30. 1984 Mookie Wilson 162
31. 1979 Joel Youngblood 162
32. 1999 Mike Piazza 162
…..

257. 1977 Bruce Boisclair 90
258. 1972 Bud Harrelson 90
T-259. 1988 Wally Backman 89
T-259. 1975 Joe Torre 89
T-259. 1970 Ken Boswell 89
T-259. 1981 Mookie Wilson 89
T-259. 2004 Ty Wigginton 89
T-259. 2005 Jose Reyes 89
264. 1973 Cleon Jones 88
265. 1968 Bud Harrelson 88
266. 1976 Jerry Grote 88
267. 1972 Ed Kranepool 88
268. 1988 Dave Magadan 87
269. 1988 Kevin Elster 87
270. 1969 Wayne Garrett 87
271. 1965 Jim Hickman 87
272. 1962 Rod Kanehl 87
273. 1962 Elio Chacon 87
274. 1962 Marv Throneberry 87
275. 1984 Mike Fitzgerald 87

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 07 2005 01:06 PM

Two hits today (so far) and Mike Piazza now has 997 as a Met.

Tied with HoJo. Three away from a small slice of Mets history.

Elster88
Jul 07 2005 01:12 PM

Just looking through the list of single season hits.

T-3. 1999 - Edgardo Alfonzo - 191
11. 1999 - Robin Ventura - 177
16. 1999 - John Olerud - 173
T-28.1999 - Mike Piazza - 162

Edgy DC
Jul 07 2005 08:23 PM

Yeah, a big part of what made that season such big news for Piazza is that he had four of the best table-setters in Met history on base in front of him -- Henderson, Alfonzo, Olerud, and Cede&#241o.

Back to the important news.

Hit Number 996:
7/7/2005: In the fourth inning at Washington, Mike Piazza doubles on a 2-0 pitch from Tony Armas, Jr., striking on a sharp line drive to left fielder Matt Cepicky. Carlos Beltran scores the tying run for the Mets, who had been down 2-1, but would go on to win 3-2. Piazza would end the inning stranded at second.

Hit Number 997:
7/7/2005: In the same game, Piazza leads off the seventh inning and falls behind 0-1, but then singles on a grounder up the middle. The Mets fail to advance him and the score remains 2-2. Piazza has tied Howard Johnson for eighth place on the Mets' all-time hit list.

Hit Number 998:
7/7/2005: In the same game, the score remains tied and the Mets go to extra innings. After Carlos Beltran doubles with one out in the eleventh, Washington pitcher Luis Ayala is ordered by manager Frank Robinson to walk Cliff Floyd to confront the crisis instead against Mike Piazza. Ayala complies, but his cooperation is for naught, as Piazza loops a single to right fielder Jose Guillen. Beltran scores ahead of Guillen's throw, but Piazza, trying to advance on the throw, is pegged at second base, and then Cliff Floyd, trying to advance on that throw, is pegged attempting to score. Despite the rally-ending double play, the RBI holds up as the game-winner, and Piazza takes sole possession of seventh place on the Mets all-time list of most prolific hitters.

All-Time Met Hits in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 1,418
2) Cleon Jones: 1,188
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 1,136
4) Mookie Wilson: 1,112
Mike Piazza projected to end of season: 1,061.41
5) Bud Harrelson: 1,029
6) Darryl Strawberry: 1,025
7) Mike Piazza: 998
8) Howard Johnson: 997
Mike Piazza at start of game: 995
9) Jerry Grote: 994
10) Keith Hernandez: 939
Mike Piazza at start of season: 928

Edgy DC
Jul 07 2005 08:36 PM

And HoJo is falling on two fronts!

All-Time Met RBI in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry 733
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 661.61
T2) Howard Johnson 629
T2) Mike Piazza 629
4) Ed Kranepool 614
Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 593
5) Edgardo Alfonzo 538
6) Cleon Jones 521
7) Keith Hernandez 468
8) Kevin McReynolds 456
9) Rusty Staub 399
10) Todd Hundley 397

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 11 2005 06:28 AM

Strikeouts in a season:

1. 1971 Tom Seaver 289
2. 1970 Tom Seaver 283
3. 1984 Dwight Gooden 276
4. 1985 Dwight Gooden 268
2005 Pedro Martinez (projected) 254
5. 1973 Tom Seaver 251
6. 1972 Tom Seaver 249
7. 1975 Tom Seaver 243
8. 1991 David Cone 241
9. 1976 Tom Seaver 235
10. 1990 David Cone 233
11. 1990 Dwight Gooden 223
12. 1992 David Cone 214
13. 1988 David Cone 213
14. 1969 Tom Seaver 208
15. 1973 Jon Matlack 205
16. 1968 Tom Seaver 205
17. 1974 Tom Seaver 201
18. 1986 Dwight Gooden 200
19. 1986 Sid Fernandez 200
20. 1976 Jerry Koosman 200
21. 2000 Al Leiter 200
22. 1989 Sid Fernandez 198
23. 1974 Jon Matlack 195
24. 1992 Sid Fernandez 193
25. 1977 Jerry Koosman 192
26. 1989 David Cone 190
27. 1988 Sid Fernandez 189
28. 1974 Jerry Koosman 188
29. 1986 Ron Darling 184
30. 1990 Frank Viola 182
31. 1990 Sid Fernandez 181
32. 1969 Jerry Koosman 180
33. 1985 Sid Fernandez 180
34. 1968 Jerry Koosman 178
35. 1988 Dwight Gooden 175
36. 1998 Al Leiter 174
37. 1975 Jerry Koosman 173
38. 2001 Kevin Appier 172
39. 2002 Al Leiter 172
40. 1967 Tom Seaver 170
41. 1972 Jon Matlack 169
42. 1987 Ron Darling 167
43. 1985 Ron Darling 167
44. 1999 Al Leiter 162
45. 1988 Ron Darling 161
46. 1978 Jerry Koosman 160
47. 1997 Dave Mlicki 157
48. 2000 Glendon Rusch 157
49. 1973 Jerry Koosman 156
50. 2001 Glendon Rusch 156
51. 1971 Gary Gentry 155
52. 1975 Jon Matlack 154
53. 1969 Gary Gentry 154
54. 1989 Ron Darling 153
55. 1976 Jon Matlack 153
56. 1998 Rick Reed 153
57. 2002 Pedro Astacio 152
58. 2000 Mike Hampton 151
59. 1991 Dwight Gooden 150
60. 1993 Dwight Gooden 149
61. 1986 Bob Ojeda 148
62. 1987 Dwight Gooden 148
63. 1972 Jerry Koosman 147
64. 1979 Craig Swan 145
65. 1992 Dwight Gooden 145
66. 2001 Steve Trachsel 144
67. 1994 Bret Saberhagen 143
68. 1996 Mark Clark 142
69. 1963 Al Jackson 142
70. 2001 Al Leiter 142
71. 2003 Al Leiter 139
72. 2005 Pedro Martinez 138

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 11 2005 06:29 AM

Totals strikeouts as a Met:

1. Tom Seaver 2541
2. Dwight Gooden 1875
3. Jerry Koosman 1799
4. Sid Fernandez 1449
5. David Cone 1172
6. Ron Darling 1148
7. Al Leiter 1106
8. Jon Matlack 1023
9. Bobby Jones 714
10. Craig Swan 671
11. Tug McGraw 618
12. John Franco 592
13. Rick Reed 590
14. Gary Gentry 563
15. Al Jackson 561
16. Jesse Orosco 506
17. Nolan Ryan 493
18. Steve Trachsel 477
19. Jack Fisher 475
20. Bob Ojeda 459
21. Armando Benitez 456
22. Jim McAndrew 408
23. Dave Mlicki 402
24. Pat Zachry 391
25. Bret Saberhagen 388
26. Frank Viola 387
27. Ray Sadecki 380
28. Pete Falcone 379
29. Skip Lockwood 368
30. Rick Aguilera 351
31. Glendon Rusch 313
32. Danny Frisella 296
33. Neil Allen 285
34. Randy Myers 264
35. Ed Lynch 259
36. Turk Wendell 259
Pedro Martinez (projected) 254
37. Dick Selma 253
38. Tom Glavine 237
39. Dennis Cook 234
40. Galen Cisco 230
41. Tracy Stallard 228
42. Roger McDowell 228
43. Roger Craig 226
44. Jason Isringhausen 225
45. Masato Yoshii 222
46. Don Cardwell 221
47. Nino Espinosa 215
48. Mark Clark 214
49. Wally Whitehurst 212
50. Pete Harnisch 208
51. Jay Hook 207
52. Pete Schourek 199
53. Ron Taylor 197
54. Bob Apodaca 197
55. Terry Leach 194
56. Jeff Innis 192
57. Walt Terrell 181
58. Jae Seo 179
59. Kevin Appier 172
60. Pedro Astacio 172
61. Doug Sisk 163
62. Dave Weathers 161
63. Bob Shaw 153
64. Mike Scott 151
65. Mike Hampton 151
66. Anthony Young 146
67. Harry Parker 143
68. Greg McMichael 143
69. Jeff Reardon 139
70. Pedro Martinez 138

Edgy DC
Jul 11 2005 07:28 AM

Pretty interesting that, after all this time, the top ten is a three-man club.

Heck, the top 14.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 11 2005 07:30 AM

And Matlack is the only southpaw to get more than 200 in a season. In their best strikeout years, Koosman, Leiter, and Fernandez each got exactly 200.

Benjamin Grimm
Jul 14 2005 07:42 PM

Piazza gets his 1,000th Mets hit with style. A three-run tie-breaking homer against the Braves at Shea.

Edgy DC
Jul 14 2005 07:47 PM

Sweet.

Frayed Knot
Jul 14 2005 07:52 PM

Funny how neither of the radio guys mentioned that it was hit #1,000.
Not that I expected it immediately since the result of the smack was a bigger story than the fact that it was a goofy round number, but that's the sort of thing Howie in particular usually eats up with a spoon. And even if he missed it I'm surpised that Jay Horowitz didn't come running in to their booth with road flares to inform them.

Maybe it'll get mentioned during the post-game.

Edgy DC
Jul 15 2005 09:15 AM

Piazza's likely done climbing the Mets career ladder in homers, but the overall ladder goes on.

Active players below are in red. (I''m not projecting all the active players now, but I should at some point.) Did you that Lee Mazzilli is currently managing two of the top ten homerun hitters in major league history?

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 219.2
2) Mike Piazza: 211
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 703
4) Willie Mays: 660
5) Frank Robinson: 586
T6) Mark McGwire: 583
=darkred]T6) Sammy Sosa: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 566
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
29) Frank Thomas: 447
30) Dave Kingman: 442
31) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]32) Juan Gonzalez: 434
33) Gary Sheffield: 433
34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]35) Jim Thome: 430
36) Billy Williams: 426
37) Darrell Evans: 414
=darkred]38) Manny Ramirez: 412
39) Duke Snider: 407
=darkred]40) Alex Rodriguez: 405
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 396.2
44) Joe Carter: 396
45) Graig Nettles: 390
46) Johnny Bench: 389
47) Mike Piazza: 388
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378 R
56) Norm Cash* 377 L

Edgy DC
Jul 15 2005 05:24 PM

The home run also accounted for Mike Piazza's 1,200th RBi.

Elster88
Jul 21 2005 09:44 AM

All-Time Mets Hits in a Single Season

1. 1996 Lance Johnson 227
2. 1998 John Olerud 197
3. 1975 Felix Millan 191
4. 1999 Edgardo Alfonzo 191
5. 1973 Felix Millan 185
6. 1985 Keith Hernandez 183
Jose Reyes projected to end of year … 182.67988
7. 1970 Tommie Agee 182
8. 1996 Bernard Gilkey 181
9. 1979 Lee Mazzilli 181
10. 1982 Mookie Wilson 178
11. 1999 Robin Ventura 177
12. 1983 Mookie Wilson 176
13. 2000 Edgardo Alfonzo 176
14. 1993 Eddie Murray 174
15. 1967 Tommy Davis 174
…..
192. 1989 Darryl Strawberry 107
193. 1989 Dave Magadan 107
194. 1979 Steve Henderson 107
195. 1971 Ken Boswell 107
196. 2001 Tsuyoshi Shinjo 107
T-197. 1989 Kevin Elster 106
T-197. 1964 Charley Smith 106
T-197. 1970 Jerry Grote 106
T-197. 2005 Jose Reyes 106
201. 1978 Tim Foli 106
202. 2003 Cliff Floyd 106
203. 1994 Jose Vizcaino 105
204. 1964 Jim Hickman 105
205. 1975 Ed Kranepool 105

Edgy DC
Jul 21 2005 10:31 AM

Four hundred is a little more possible today than yesterday.

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 219.95
2) Mike Piazza: 212
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 703
4) Willie Mays: 660
5) Frank Robinson: 586
T6) Mark McGwire: 583
=darkred]T6) Sammy Sosa: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 566
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
29) Frank Thomas: 447
30) Dave Kingman: 442
31) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]32) Juan Gonzalez: 434
33) Gary Sheffield: 433
34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]35) Jim Thome: 430
36) Billy Williams: 426
37) Darrell Evans: 414
=darkred]38) Manny Ramirez: 412
39) Duke Snider: 407
=darkred]40) Alex Rodriguez: 405
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 396.95
44) Joe Carter: 396
45) Graig Nettles: 390
T46) Mike Piazza: 389
T46) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378 R
56) Norm Cash* 377 L

Edgy DC
Jul 22 2005 03:01 PM

Goal: To get Jose Reyes off the bottom of the MLB OpS charts among qualifiers:

RK PLAYER OPS
1 Derrek Lee 1.175
2 Albert Pujols 1.050
3 Alex Rodriguez 1.012
4 Travis Hafner .995
5 Brian Roberts .984
6 Miguel Cabrera .981
7 Morgan Ensberg .974
8 Aramis Ramirez .966
9 David Ortiz Bos .958
10 Miguel Tejada .956
11 Manny Ramirez .954
12 Nick Johnson .952
13 Carlos Delgado .943
14 Brian Giles .942
15 Adam Dunn .942
16 Andruw Jones .938
17 Gary Sheffield .937
18 J.D. Drew .931
19 Jason Bay .925
20 Bobby Abreu .923
21 Jim Edmonds .920
22 Ken Griffey Jr. .918
23 Chase Utley .916
24 Moises Alou .909
25 Vladimir Guerrero .909
26 David Dellucci .908
27 Pat Burrell .898
28 Jeff Kent .897
29 Hideki Matsui .892
30 Richie Sexson .891
31 Cliff Floyd .890
32 Mark Teixeira .888
33 Jason Varitek .887
34 Michael Young .880
35 Todd Helton .878
36 Mike Sweeney .874
37 Jose Guillen .872
38 Troy Glaus .872
39 David Wright .871
40 Felipe Lopez .869
41 Kevin Mench .868
42 Trot Nixon Bos .863
43 Alfonso Soriano .861
44 Chad Tracy .860
45 Johnny Damon .857
46 Shawn Green .857
47 Melvin Mora .856
48 Juan Encarnacion .847
49 Lyle Overbay .844
50 Rafael Palmeiro .843
51 Jeromy Burnitz .842
52 Carlos Lee .842
53 Ryan Klesko .842
54 Hank Blalock .841
55 Preston Wilson .836
56 Paul Konerko .836
57 Geoff Jenkins .834
58 Jermaine Dye .832
59 Raul Ibanez .827
60 Joe Randa .827
61 Bill Hall .826
62 Shea Hillenbrand .825
63 Vernon Wells .822
64 Matt Lawton .822
65 Craig Biggio .822
66 David DeJesus .818
67 Luis Castillo .817
68 Joe Mauer .816
69 Marcus Giles .816
70 Ray Durham .810
71 Jorge Cantu .809
72 Emil Brown .809
73 Derek Jeter .808
74 Brandon Inge .807
75 Bobby Kielty .805
76 Rondell White .805
77 Jay Gibbons .801
78 Luis Gonzalez .800
79 Jacque Jones .799
80 Torii Hunter .798
81 Jorge Posada .797
82 Brad Wilkerson .795
83 Grady Sizemore .786
84 Ivan Rodriguez .785
85 Bill Mueller .785
86 Brady Clark .784
87 Coco Crisp .783
88 Dmitri Young .780
89 Garret Anderson .775
90 Craig Monroe .774
91 Eric Chavez .774
92 Craig Counsell .773
93 Ichiro Suzuki .770
94 Rob Mackowiak .764
95 Justin Morneau .762
96 Sean Casey .762
97 Mike Piazza .760
98 Carl Crawford .759
99 Alex Rios .758
100 Pedro Feliz .758
101 Jason Lane .756
102 Omar Vizquel .751
103 Paul Lo Duca .751
104 Shannon Stewart .750
105 Daryle Ward.750
106 Carlos Beltran .748
107 Aaron Rowand .748
108 Kevin Millar .745
109 Joe Crede .741
110 Tadahito Iguchi .740
111 Ben Broussard .740
112 Edgar Renteria .731
113 Jimmy Rollins .731
114 Chone Figgins .730
115 Scott Hatteberg .730
116 Jason Ellison .727
117 Victor Martinez .726
118 Vinny Castilla .726
119 Julio Lugo .725
120 Darin Erstad .724
121 Orlando Hudson .724
122 Ronnie Belliard .723
123 Eric Hinske .721
124 Lew Ford .720
125 Mark Kotsay .720
126 David Eckstein .719
127 Aubrey Huff .718
128 Randy Winn .718
129 Mark Grudzielanek .712
130 Rafael Furcal .712
131 Richard Hidalgo .709
132 Alex Gonzalez .709
133 Adrian Beltre .707
134 Scott Podsednik .707
135 Casey Blake .704
136 Bernie Williams .702
137 Sammy Sosa .701
138 Willy Taveras .697
139 Jeremy Reed .690
140 Mark Bellhorn .689
141 Adam Everett .678
142 David Bell .677
143 Juan Pierre .677
144 Jason Kendall .674
145 Neifi Perez .672
146 Angel Berroa .672
147 Royce Clayton .668
148 Jose Reyes .664
149 Bret Boone .659
150 Orlando Cabrera .655
151 Jason Phillips .652
152 Cesar Izturis .651
153 Corey Patterson .649
154 Aaron Boone .642
155 Mike Lowell .632
156 Juan Uribe .631
157 Jack Wilson .618

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 22 2005 03:24 PM

How about we also get Carlos Beltran out of Daryle Ward's neighborhood. My goodness.

Elster88
Jul 22 2005 04:53 PM

Ichiro and Crawford are also down there? Lo Duca below Piazza?

Edgy DC
Jul 25 2005 09:35 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 05 2005 10:49 PM

Piazza's next chase is Joe Carter. Four hundred is still a reach of sorts.

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 220.84
2) Mike Piazza: 213
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 703
4) Willie Mays: 660
5) Frank Robinson: 586
=darkred]6) Sammy Sosa: 585
7) Mark McGwire: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 567
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
=darkred]16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
29) Frank Thomas: 447
30) Dave Kingman: 442
31) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]32) Gary Sheffield: 435
=darkred]33) Juan Gonzalez: 434
34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]35) Jim Thome: 430
36) Billy Williams: 426
=darkred]37) Manny Ramirez: 417
38) Darrell Evans: 414
=darkred]39) Alex Rodriguez: 408
40) Duke Snider: 407
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 397.84
44) Joe Carter: 396
T45) Graig Nettles: 390
T45) Mike Piazza: 390
47) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378 R
56) Norm Cash* 377 L

Elster88
Jul 25 2005 09:43 AM

Junior Griffey should be in brick color too, no? I'm guessing that's not Senior?

Edgy DC
Jul 25 2005 09:49 AM

OK, back to an ol' favorite. Jose Reyes's 2005 is already the second tripliest of all Met time. His pace has seemingly fallen off to put him out of contention for catching Lance Johnson, but these things come in bunches.

He has now sole posession of the 17th tripliest career in Mets history, and is still a decent bet to become the youngest Met to triple his age, garnering 22 career triples as a 22-year-old.

All-Time Met Triples in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 21
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 16.53
T2) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 10
T2) Jose Reyes, 2005: 10
T4) Charlie Neal, 1962: 9
T4) Steve Henderson, 1978: 9
T4) Frank Taveras, 1979: 9
T4) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 9
T8) Joe Christopher, 1964: 8
T8) Joel Youngblood, 1970: 8
T8) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 8
T8) Cleon Jones, 1970: 8
T8) Len Randle, 1978: 8
T8) Doug Flynn, 1978: 8
T8) Steve Henderson, 1979: 8
T8) Doug Flynn, 1980: 8
T8) Steve Henderson, 1980: 8
T8) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 8
T8) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 8
T8) Vince Coleman, 1993: 8

All-Time Met Triples in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 62
2) Bud Harrelson: 45
3) Cleon Jones: 33
4) Steve Henderson: 31
5) Darryl Strawberry: 30
6) Lance Johnson: 27
7) Doug Flynn: 26
8) Ed Kranepool: 25
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 22.53
9) Lee Mazzilli: 22
T10) Ron Swoboda: 20
T10) Wayne Garrett: 20
T12) Jerry Grote: 18
T12) Joel Youngblood: 18
T12) Howard Johnson: 18
T15) Lenny Dykstra: 17
T15) Rey Ordóñez: 17
17) Jose Reyes: 16
T18) Ken Boswell: 15
T18) Len Randle:15
T20) Joe Christopher: 14
T20) Tommie Agee: 14
T20) Ted Martinez: 14
T20) Mike Phillips: 14
T20) Wally Backman: 14
T20) Kevin McReynolds: 14
T20) Vince Coleman: 14
T20) Jose Vizcaino: 14
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 14...

...Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 6

Elster88
Jul 25 2005 09:51 AM

All-Time Met Doubles in a Single Season

1. 1996 Bernard Gilkey 44
David Wright Projected to End of Season 42.97947
T-2. 1989 Howard Johnson 41
T-2. 1999 Edgardo Alfonzo 41
T-4. 1990 Gregg Jefferies 40
T-4. 2000 Edgardo Alfonzo 40
6. 1999 John Olerud 39
7. 1999 Robin Ventura 38
T-8. 1992 Eddie Murray 37
T-8. 1990 Howard Johnson 37
T-8. 1987 Lenny Dykstra 37
T-8. 1975 Felix Millan 37
T-8. 1979 Joel Youngblood 37
......
56. 1995 Rico Brogna 27
57. 1997 Edgardo Alfonzo 27
58. 1998 Carlos Baerga 27
59. 1988 Darryl Strawberry 27
60. 1980 Frank Taveras 27
61. 1984 Darryl Strawberry 27
62. 1986 Darryl Strawberry 27
63. 1986 Lenny Dykstra 27
64. 2001 Desi Relaford 27
65. 2002 Timo Perez 27
T-66. 1997 Butch Huskey 26
T-66. 1989 Darryl Strawberry 26
T-66. 1979 Frank Taveras 26
T-66. 1964 Joe Christopher 26
T-66. 1980 Joel Youngblood 26
T-66. 2000 Mike Piazza 26
T-66. 2002 Edgardo Alfonzo 26
T-66. 2004 Cliff Floyd 26
T-66. 2005 David Wright 26

Elster88
Jul 25 2005 01:09 PM

Jose has missed one game so far this year. I predicted he would play in 120 games this year in our predictions thread in the old CPF. This isn't a category that gets cracked often, only three new entries to the top 20 since 1991.

All Time Met At-Bats in a Single Season

Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season 697.58984
1. 1996 Lance Johnson 682
2. 1975 Felix Millan 676
3. 1982 Mookie Wilson 639
4. 1973 Felix Millan 638
5. 1983 Mookie Wilson 638
6. 1970 Tommie Agee 636
7. 1979 Frank Taveras 635
8. 1999 Edgardo Alfonzo 628
9. 1993 Eddie Murray 610
10. 1978 Willie Montanez 609
11. 1990 Gregg Jefferies 604
12. 1983 George Foster 601
13. 1979 Lee Mazzilli 597
14. 1985 Keith Hernandez 593
15. 1990 Howard Johnson 590
16. 1987 Kevin McReynolds 590
17. 1979 Joel Youngblood 590
18. 2002 Roberto Alomar 590
19. 1999 Robin Ventura 588
......
165. 1987 Lenny Dykstra 431
166. 1977 John Stearns 431
167. 1986 Lenny Dykstra 431
168. 1988 Lenny Dykstra 429
169. 1971 Tommie Agee 425
T-170. 1964 George Altman 422
T-170. 1972 Tommie Agee 422
T-170. 2005 Jose Reyes 422

Edgy DC
Jul 25 2005 09:39 PM

Jose's all alone in second place now. It's a long chase after Lance.

All-Time Met Triples in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 21
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 18
2) Jose Reyes, 2005: 11
3) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 10
T4) Charlie Neal, 1962: 9
T4) Steve Henderson, 1978: 9
T4) Frank Taveras, 1979: 9
T4) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 9
T8) Joe Christopher, 1964: 8
T8) Joel Youngblood, 1970: 8
T8) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 8
T8) Cleon Jones, 1970: 8
T8) Len Randle, 1978: 8
T8) Doug Flynn, 1978: 8
T8) Steve Henderson, 1979: 8
T8) Doug Flynn, 1980: 8
T8) Steve Henderson, 1980: 8
T8) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 8
T8) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 8
T8) Vince Coleman, 1993: 8

All-Time Met Triples in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 62
2) Bud Harrelson: 45
3) Cleon Jones: 33
4) Steve Henderson: 31
5) Darryl Strawberry: 30
6) Lance Johnson: 27
7) Doug Flynn: 26
8) Ed Kranepool: 25
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 24
9) Lee Mazzilli: 22
T10) Ron Swoboda: 20
T10) Wayne Garrett: 20
T12) Jerry Grote: 18
T12) Joel Youngblood: 18
T12) Howard Johnson: 18
T15) Lenny Dykstra: 17
T15) Rey Ordóñez: 17
T15) Jose Reyes: 17
T18) Ken Boswell: 15
T18) Len Randle:15
T20) Joe Christopher: 14
T20) Tommie Agee: 14
T20) Ted Martinez: 14
T20) Mike Phillips: 14
T20) Wally Backman: 14
T20) Kevin McReynolds: 14
T20) Vince Coleman: 14
T20) Jose Vizcaino: 14
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 14...

...Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 6

seawolf17
Jul 27 2005 02:15 PM

Interesting, albeit relatively worthless, info from today's Mets Press Pass notes:

All-Time Games Caught
23. Ernie Lombardi 1544
24. Steve O'Neill 1528
=red]T25. Mike Piazza 1506
T25. Darrell Porter 1506

Elster88
Jul 27 2005 02:20 PM

Where does one who isn't a member of the press get Press Pass notes? Or is that not possible?

seawolf17
Jul 27 2005 02:24 PM

They have them on mlb.com... go to News, then Press Pass. You have to create an account, then they'll e-mail you every day when they're ready. I usually check them, just for kicks; if I think of it, I try to print them out before I go to a game (because I'm a nerd). They're an invaluable KTE resource.

Elster88
Aug 03 2005 08:56 AM

A good couple of weeks and Jose is projecting to break the top 3.

All-Time Mets Hits in a Single Season

1. 1996 Lance Johnson 227
2. 1998 John Olerud 197
Jose Reyes projected to end of year … 195.62294
T-3. 1975 Felix Millan 191
T-3. 1999 Edgardo Alfonzo 191
5. 1973 Felix Millan 185
6. 1985 Keith Hernandez 183
7. 1970 Tommie Agee 182
T-8. 1996 Bernard Gilkey 181
T-8. 1979 Lee Mazzilli 181
10. 1982 Mookie Wilson 178
…..
114. 1974 Cleon Jones 130
T-115. 1996 Rey Ordóñez 129
T-115. 1997 Bernard Gilkey 129
T-117. 1973 Wayne Garrett 129
T-117. 2003 Roger Cedeño 129
T-119. 1974 John Milner 128
T-119. 1965 Roy McMillan 128
T-119. 1962 Felix Mantilla 128
T-119. 2005 Jose Reyes 128

Elster88
Aug 03 2005 09:00 AM

Reyes has missed one game this year. Wright has missed two.

I'm guessing that the the 1999 stats, including Olerud's 162, are out of 163 games. Talk about stats that need an asterisk.

I really like the Interactive Statistics in the UMDB.

All-Time Mets Games in a Single (Regular) Season

1. 1975 Felix Millan 162
2. 1999 John Olerud 162
3. 1999 Robin Ventura 161
4. 1998 John Olerud 160
5. 1996 Lance Johnson 160
6. 1998 Brian McRae 159
7. 1978 Willie Montanez 159
8. 1977 Lee Mazzilli 159
9. 1982 Mookie Wilson 159
10. 1985 Keith Hernandez 158
11. 1979 Lee Mazzilli 158
12. 1979 Joel Youngblood 158
13. 1999 Edgardo Alfonzo 158

Elster88
Aug 03 2005 09:06 AM

Reyes looking to break 700. He's looking to pass Kaz's mark from last year. I think he might just.

All Time Met At-Bats in a Single Season

Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season 701.49162
1. 1996 Lance Johnson 682
2. 1975 Felix Millan 676
3. 1982 Mookie Wilson 639
4. 1973 Felix Millan 638
5. 1983 Mookie Wilson 638
....
141. 2004 Kaz Matsui 460
142. 2005 Jose Reyes 459
143. 1989 Kevin Elster 458

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 03 2005 09:25 AM

I seem to remember a time when the single-season record for at bats in a season was 699. (Manny Trillo, perhaps?) I'm pretty sure it's since been broken, and that there have been a few 700 seasons. Though not, of course, for the Mets.

Edgy DC
Aug 03 2005 11:38 AM

Willie Wilson had the first 700-at-bat season, I'm pretty sure.

Frayed Knot
Aug 03 2005 01:05 PM

700 AB seasons:

Willie Wilson - 705, 1980
Ichiro Suzuki - 704, 2004
Juan Samuel - 701, 1984

Dave Cash (699 - 1975) was the pre-Reagan era leader

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 03 2005 01:47 PM

My Manny Trillo guess was way off. His career high was 582 at bats.

Dave Cash, huh? I never would have guessed that.

Edgy DC
Aug 04 2005 10:05 PM

Round number time. With the season two thirds gone, Mike Piazza is on a pace for exactly 21 homers, which projects him to exactly 399 homers for his career, the exact same place his almost teammate Andres Galarraga packed it in.

Meanwhile Supect Sammy Sosa has passed Frank Robinson, which has got to bring some seriously mixed feelings to the old guy.

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 222
2) Mike Piazza: 215
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 703
4) Willie Mays: 660
=darkred]5) Sammy Sosa: 588
6) Frank Robinson: 586
7) Mark McGwire: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 569
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
29) Frank Thomas: 447
30) Dave Kingman: 442
31) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]32) Gary Sheffield: 436
=darkred]33) Juan Gonzalez: 434
34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]35) Jim Thome: 430
36) Billy Williams: 426
=darkred]37) Manny Ramirez: 420
38) Darrell Evans: 414
=darkred]39) Alex Rodriguez: 411
40) Duke Snider: 407
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
44) Joe Carter: 396
45) Mike Piazza: 392
46) Graig Nettles: 390
47) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378 R
56) Norm Cash* 377 L

Edgy DC
Aug 05 2005 07:29 AM

Just when I was sure Greg couldin't carry him any longer, Jason steps up.

Way to go, J-Fafif.

metirish
Aug 05 2005 07:39 AM

Excellent, I've added "fear & faith" as a favorite,I was at this game,great discription.

]. June 17, 2001: The Yankees had beaten us in the first two games of the Shea leg of the Subway Series, and it was beginning to dawn on us that the irritating drawbacks of the 2001 team weren't some passing thing. 7-2 Yankees, eighth inning, and we look as dead as dead can look. Ventura reaches on an error by Derek Jeter -- Schadenfreudish snickers. McEwing HBP. Relaford RBI single makes it 7-3. Ordonez walks, causing thousands of fans to pinch, punch and set fire to themselves to confirm such a thing really happened. Mark Johnson strikes out. Randy Choate exits for someone named Carlos Almanzar. Agbayani singles to make it 7-5. Hope lifts its weary head, looks around, blinks, sees Yankees, awaits execution. Shinjo hits a grounder, slides into first to demonstrate that this thing about Japanese players and good fundamentals is a myth -- but isn't doubled up. Ordonez scores: It's 7-6 with two outs and Piazza striding to the plate. Hope begins to scamper about wildly, still pretty sure it's gonna get its head bashed in with a shovel, but what the heck. On an 1-0 pitch, Mike destroys an Almanzar pitch for an 8-7 lead and the salvation of our honor. Hope does a drunken jig, goes into the fetal position when Armando tries his hardest to blow the save, begins dancing again when he somehow doesn't.

Edgy DC
Aug 05 2005 10:59 PM

Mike Piazza has passed Darryl in one category. In the other, you can feel it in the air, the Darryl's out of reach. But he has passed Johnson. 'Eighty-six Mets are dropping like infield flies.

All-Time Met Doubles in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 225
2) Howard Johnson: 214
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 212
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 202.69
4) Mike Piazza: 192
5) Darryl Strawberry: 187
6) Cleon Jones: 182
7) Mookie Wilson: 170
Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 170
8) Keith Hernandez: 159
9) Kevin McReynolds: 153
10) John Stearns: 152

All-Time Mets RBI

1) Darryl Strawberry: 733
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 661.36
3) Mike Piazza: 639
2) Howard Johnson: 629
4) Ed Kranepool: 614
Mike Piazza at start of Season: 593
5) Edgardo Alfonzo: 538
6) Cleon Jones: 521
7) Keith Hernandez: 468
8) Kevin McReynolds: 456
9) Rusty Staub: 399
10) Todd Hundley: 397

soupcan
Aug 06 2005 09:10 AM

This is my favorite thread to peruse by the way.

Thanks for it.

Iubitul
Aug 06 2005 09:38 AM

="Edgy DC"]

Meanwhile Supect Sammy Sosa has passed Frank Robinson, which has got to bring some seriously mixed feelings to the old guy.

All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
3) Barry Bonds: 703
4) Willie Mays: 660
5) Sammy Sosa: 588
6) Frank Robinson: 586
7) Mark McGwire: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
9) Rafael Palmeiro: 569
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
29) Frank Thomas: 447
30) Dave Kingman: 442
31) Andre Dawson: 438
32) Gary Sheffield: 436
33) Juan Gonzalez: 434
34) Cal Ripken: 431
35) Jim Thome: 430
36) Billy Williams: 426
37) Manny Ramirez: 420
38) Darrell Evans: 414
39) Alex Rodriguez: 411
40) Duke Snider: 407
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
=blue]Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
44) Joe Carter: 396
45) Mike Piazza: 392
46) Graig Nettles: 390
47) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378 R
56) Norm Cash* 377 L


With the exception of Manny, and maybe A-Rod, it seems like all of those names in dark red are suspect.

Edgy DC
Aug 08 2005 12:04 PM

All-Time Wins by a Major League Pitcher
(Actvive Non-Met Players in Red)

1) Cy Young: 511
2) Walter Johnson: 417
T3) Pete Alexander: 373
T3) Christy Mathewson: 373
5) Pud Galvin: 364
6) Warren Spahn: 363
7) Kid Nichols: 361
8) Tim Keefe: 342
9) Roger Clemens: 339
10) Steve Carlton: 329
11) John Clarkson: 328
12) Eddie Plank: 326
T13) Nolan Ryan: 324
T13) Don Sutton: 324
15) Phil Niekro: 318
16) Gaylord Perry: 314
17) Greg Maddux: 313
18) Tom Seaver: 311
19) Charley Radbourn: 309
20) Mickey Welch: 307
T21) Lefty Grove: 300
T21) Early Wynn: 300
23) Bobby Mathews: 297
24) Tommy John: 288
25) Bert Blyleven: 287
26) Robin Roberts: 286
T27) Fergie Jenkins: 284
T27) Tony Mullane: 284
29) Jim Kaat: 283
=blue]Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 273.68
30) Red Ruffing: 273
T31) Burleigh Grimes: 270
T31) Tom Glavine: 270
33) Jim Palmer: 268
T34) Bob Feller: 266
T34) Eppa Rixey: 266
36) Jim McCormick: 265
37) Gus Weyhing: 264
=orange]Tom Glavine at start of Season: 262
38)Ted Lyons: 260
T39) Red Faber: 254
T39) Jack Morris: 254

Edgy DC
Aug 09 2005 10:07 AM

Since last we checked, Jose Reyes's 2005 has gone from the 43rd theftiest season in Met history to the tenth. Career-wise, Jose has entered this huge void of 23 thefts between 13th and 14th, between Frank Taveras and Kevn McReynolds, between base-stealers and guys that can steal.

All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Season

1) Roger Cedeño, 1999: 66
2) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 58
3) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 54
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 54
4) Lance Johnson, 1996: 50
5) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 46
6) Frank Taveras: 1979: 42
T7) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T7) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 41
9) Vince Coleman, 1993: 38
T10) Vince Coleman, 1991: 37
T10) Rickey Henderson, 1999: 37
T10) Jose Reyes, 2005: 37
13) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 36
T14) Howard Johnson, 1990: 34
T14) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34
16) Lenny Randle, 1977: 33
T17) Howard Johnson, 1987: 32
T17) Frank Taveras, 1980: 32
T17) Wally Backman, 1984: 32
T20) Juan Samuel, 1989: 31
T20) Tommie Agee, 1970: 31
T20) Lenny Dykstra, 1986: 31
T23) Howard Johnson, 1991: 30
T23) Lenny Dykstra, 1988: 30
T23) Wally Backman, 1985: 30
26) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 29
T27) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 28
T27) Tommie Agee, 1971: 28
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 28
T30) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 27
T30) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 27
T32) Gregg Jefferies, 1991: 26
T32) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 26
T34) John Stearns, 1978: 25
T34) Mookie Wilson, 1986: 25
T34) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25
T37) Vince Coleman, 1992: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 24
T40) Howard Johnson, 1988: 23
T40) Steve Henderson, 1980: 23
T40) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 23
T40) Cleon Jones, 1968: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1992: 22
T44) Joe Foy, 1970 22
T44) Lee Mazzilli, 1977: 22
T44) Mike Cameron, 2004: 22
T48) Brett Butler, 1995: 21
T48) Gregg Jefferies, 1989: 21
T48) Mookie Wilson, 1987: 21
T48) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 21
All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 281
2) Howard Johnson: 202
3) Darryl Strawberry: 191
4) Lee Mazzilli: 152
5) Lenny Dykstra: 116
6) Bud Harrelson: 115
7) Wally Backman: 106
8) Roger Cedeño: 105
9) Vince Coleman: 99
10) Tommie Agee: 92
T11) Cleon Jones: 91
T11) John Stearns: 91
13) Frank Taveras: 90
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 86
14) Jose Reyes: 69
15) Kevin McReynolds: 67
16) Lance Johnson: 65
17) Gregg Jefferies: 63
18) Steve Henderson: 55
19) Lenny Randle: 47
T20) Daryl Boston: 45
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 45
22) Keith Miller: 44
23) Rickey Henderson: 42
24) Bob Bailor: 40
25) Joel Youngblood: 39
26) Wayne Garrett: 33
Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 32
T27) Hubie Brooks: 31
T27) Juan Samuel: 31
T29) Dave Kingman: 29
T29) Bernard Gilkey: 29
T31) Rey Ordóñez: 28
T31) Mike Cameron: 28
33) Ken Boswell: 26
T34) Carl Everett: 25
T34) Brian McRae: 25
36) Brian Giles: 23
T37) Joe Christopher: 22
T37) Joe Foy: 22
T37) Joe McEwing: 22
T37) Roberto Alomar: 22

MFS62
Aug 09 2005 10:56 AM

Edgy, those lists awoke some great memories for me. The first players that I saw on those lists were Musial, Snider (In Brooklyn) and Ted Williams (I saw diMaggio, too).
But if I had to pick one listed player, in his prime, to play for my team, it would have to be Frank Robinson. He could beat you in the field, with his bat, or on the bases. He had an unyielding will to win, and never backed down from a challenge. He would have ripped out Clemen's heart and thrown it into the centerfield bleachers. (Oh, did I say he could beat you with his arm, too?) And he was a leader and a team player. Every other player on those lists fell short in at least one of those dimensions.

(cue music)
"Thanks, for the memories..."

Later

Edgy DC
Aug 13 2005 10:37 PM

Since last we checked on Reyes, he's passed the best two stolen-base seasons that Vince Coleman had in a Met uniform. He's pace now has him breathing down Mookie's neck for the second-stealiest Met season ever.

Career-wise, he might catch Frank Taveras yet.

All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Season

1) Roger Cedeño, 1999: 66
2) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 58
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 57.26
3) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 54
4) Lance Johnson, 1996: 50
5) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 46
6) Frank Taveras: 1979: 42
T7) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T7) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 41
T7) Jose Reyes, 2005: 41
10) Vince Coleman, 1993: 38
T11) Vince Coleman, 1991: 37
T11) Rickey Henderson, 1999: 37
13) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 36
T14) Howard Johnson, 1990: 34
T14) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34
16) Lenny Randle, 1977: 33
T17) Howard Johnson, 1987: 32
T17) Frank Taveras, 1980: 32
T17) Wally Backman, 1984: 32
T20) Juan Samuel, 1989: 31
T20) Tommie Agee, 1970: 31
T20) Lenny Dykstra, 1986: 31
T23) Howard Johnson, 1991: 30
T23) Lenny Dykstra, 1988: 30
T23) Wally Backman, 1985: 30
26) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 29
T27) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 28
T27) Tommie Agee, 1971: 28
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 28
T30) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 27
T30) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 27
T32) Gregg Jefferies, 1991: 26
T32) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 26
T34) John Stearns, 1978: 25
T34) Mookie Wilson, 1986: 25
T34) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25
T37) Vince Coleman, 1992: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 24
T40) Howard Johnson, 1988: 23
T40) Steve Henderson, 1980: 23
T40) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 23
T40) Cleon Jones, 1968: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1992: 22
T44) Joe Foy, 1970 22
T44) Lee Mazzilli, 1977: 22
T44) Mike Cameron, 2004: 22
T48) Brett Butler, 1995: 21
T48) Gregg Jefferies, 1989: 21
T48) Mookie Wilson, 1987: 21
T48) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 21
All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 281
2) Howard Johnson: 202
3) Darryl Strawberry: 191
4) Lee Mazzilli: 152
5) Lenny Dykstra: 116
6) Bud Harrelson: 115
7) Wally Backman: 106
8) Roger Cedeño: 105
9) Vince Coleman: 99
10) Tommie Agee: 92
T11) Cleon Jones: 91
T11) John Stearns: 91
13) Frank Taveras: 90
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 89.86
14) Jose Reyes: 73
15) Kevin McReynolds: 67
16) Lance Johnson: 65
17) Gregg Jefferies: 63
18) Steve Henderson: 55
19) Lenny Randle: 47
T20) Daryl Boston: 45
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 45
22) Keith Miller: 44
23) Rickey Henderson: 42
24) Bob Bailor: 40
25) Joel Youngblood: 39
26) Wayne Garrett: 33
Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 32
T27) Hubie Brooks: 31
T27) Juan Samuel: 31
T29) Dave Kingman: 29
T29) Bernard Gilkey: 29
T31) Rey Ordóñez: 28
T31) Mike Cameron: 28
33) Ken Boswell: 26
T34) Carl Everett: 25
T34) Brian McRae: 25
36) Brian Giles: 23
T37) Joe Christopher: 22
T37) Joe Foy: 22
T37) Joe McEwing: 22
T37) Roberto Alomar: 22

Edgy DC
Aug 16 2005 10:16 PM

Floyd ties Olerud.

All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
2) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T3) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T3) Darryl Strawberry 1987: 39
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 37..07
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T10) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T10) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T10) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T14) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T14) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
16) Mike Piazza 33
T17) 1985 Gary Carter 32
T17) 1999 Robin Ventura 32
T19) 1996 Bernard Gilkey 30
T19) 1997 Todd Hundley 30
T19) 2004 Mike Cameron 30
T22) 1989 Darryl Strawberry 29
T22) 1987 Kevin McReynolds 29
T22) 1985 Darryl Strawberry 29
25) 1983 George Foster 28
T26) 1993 Eddie Murray 27
T26) 1988 Kevin McReynolds 27
T26) 1986 Darryl Strawberry 27
T26) 1999 Edgardo Alfonzo 27
T26) Cliff Floyd 2005 to Date: 27
T31) 1984 Darryl Strawberry 26
T31) 1969 Tommie Agee 26
T31) 1983 Darryl Strawberry 26
T31) 2002 Mo Vaughn 26
All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2) Mike Piazza: 210
30 Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
16) Robin Ventura: 77
17) Rusty Staub: 75
Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 73.07
18) Ron Swoboda: 69
19) Lee Mazzilli: 68
20) Jeff Kent: 67
T21) John Olerud: 63
T21) Cliff Floyd: 63
T23) Jim Hickman: 60
T23) Mookie Wilson: 60
T25) Wayne Garrett: 55
T25) Butch Huskey: 55
27) Jeromy Burnitz: 53
T28) Frank Thomas: 52
T28) Bernard Gilkey: 52
30) John Stearns: 46
31) Donn Clendenon: 45
32) Hubie Brooks: 44
33) Eddie Murray: 43
T34) Art Shamsky: 42
T3r) Gregg Jefferies: 42
36) Todd Zeile: 41
37) Ryan Thompson: 39
38) Joel Youngblood: 38
=orange]Cliff Floyd at Season's Start: 36
T39) Charley Smith: 36
T39) Rico Brogna: 36
T39) Mike Cameron: 36

Elster88
Aug 17 2005 09:20 AM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 03 2005 06:59 PM

We have another Met who has broken the top ten in a single season category.

All Time Met Hit Batsmen in a Single Season

1. 2002 Pedro Astacio 16
T-2. 2001 Kevin Appier 15
T-2. 1971 Nolan Ryan 15
Victor Zambrano Projected to End of Season 13
4. 1963 Al Jackson 12
T-5. 1999 Orel Hershiser 11 1999
T-5. 1999 Al Leiter 11
T-5. 2000 Al Leiter 11
T-5. 2000 Al Leiter 11
T-9. 1968 Don Cardwell 10
T-9. 1964 Jack Fisher 10
T-9. 1996 Paul Wilson 10
T-9. Victor Zambrano 10

Edgy DC
Aug 17 2005 07:49 PM

Bye, Bye, Burleigh. Hello, Nolie.

Hey, when did Maddux pass Gaylord Perry?

All-Time Wins by a Major League Pitcher
(Active Non-Met Players in Red)

1) Cy Young: 511
2) Walter Johnson: 417
T3) Pete Alexander: 373
T3) Christy Mathewson: 373
5) Pud Galvin: 364
6) Warren Spahn: 363
7) Kid Nichols: 361
8) Tim Keefe: 342
9) Roger Clemens: 339
10) Steve Carlton: 329
11) John Clarkson: 328
12) Eddie Plank: 326
T13) Nolan Ryan: 324
T13) Don Sutton: 324
15) Phil Niekro: 318
16) Greg Maddux: 315
17) Gaylord Perry: 314
18) Tom Seaver: 311
19) Charley Radbourn: 309
20) Mickey Welch: 307
T21) Lefty Grove: 300
T21) Early Wynn: 300
23) Bobby Mathews: 297
24) Tommy John: 288
25) Bert Blyleven: 287
26) Robin Roberts: 286
T27) Fergie Jenkins: 284
T27) Tony Mullane: 284
29) Jim Kaat: 283
=blue]Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 274.25
30) Red Ruffing: 273
31) Tom Glavine: 271
32) Burleigh Grimes: 270
33) Jim Palmer: 268
T34) Bob Feller: 266
T34) Eppa Rixey: 266
36) Jim McCormick: 265
37) Gus Weyhing: 264
=orange]Tom Glavine at start of Season: 262
38)Ted Lyons: 260
T39) Red Faber: 254
T39) Jack Morris: 254
All-Time Wins by a Mets Pitcher


1) Tom Seaver 198
2) Dwight Gooden 157
3) Jerry Koosman 140
4) Ron Darling 99
5) Sid Fernandez 98
6) Al Leiter 95
7) Jon Matlack 82
8) David Cone 81
9) Bobby Jones 74
T10) Craig Swan 59
T10) Rick Reed 59
12) Bob Ojeda 51
13) Steve Trachsel 50
14) John Franco 48
T15) Tug McGraw 47
T15) Jesse Orosco 47
17) Al Jackson 43
T18) Gary Gentry 41
T18) Pat Zachry 41
T20) Jack Fisher 38
T20) Ed Lynch 38
T20) Frank Viola 38
23) Rick Aguilera 37
24) Jim McAndrew 36
25) Roger McDowell 33
=blue]Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 32.25
26) Ray Sadecki 30
T27) Nolan Ryan 29
T27) Bret Saberhagen 29
T27) Tom Glavine 29
30) Pete Falcone 26...

...40. Ron Taylor 21
41. Don Cardwell 20
=orange]Tom Glavine at Start of Season: 20
42. Walt Terrell 19
43. Glendon Rusch 19

Edgy DC
Aug 18 2005 09:28 AM

Mets RBIs in a Season

1) Mike Piazza, 1999: 124

2) Robin Ventura, 1999: 120

T3) Bernard Gilkey, 1996 :117
T3) Howard Johnson, 1991: 117

5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 113

6) Todd Hundley, 1996: 112

T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 108
T7) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 108

T9) Rusty Staub, 1975: 105
T9) Gary Carter, 1986: 105

11) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 104

Cliff Floyd, Projected to End of Season: 103.64

David Wright, Projected to End of Season: 102.10

12) John Olerud, 1997: 102

T13) Howard Johnson, 1989: 101
T13) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 101

T15) Eddie Murray, 1993: 100
T15) Gary Carter, 1985: 100

T17) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 99
T17) Howard Johnson, 1987: 99
T17) Dave Kingman, 1982: 99

20) Mike Piazza, 2002: 98...


...T50) Richie Hebner, 1979: 79
T50) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 79
T50) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 79
T50) Todd Zeile, 2000: 79

T54) Bernard Gilkey, 1997: 78
T54) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1998: 78
T54) John Milner, 1976 78
T54) Rusty Staub, 1974: 78

T58) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 77
T58) George Foster, 1985: 77

T60) Rico Brogna, 1995: 76
T60) Mike Piazza, 1998: 76
T60) Joe Christopher, 1964: 76
T60) Rusty Staub, 1973: 76
T60) Ray Knight, 1986: 76
T60) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 76
T60) Tommie Agee, 1969: 76
T60) Mike Cameron, 2004: 76
T60) Cliff Floyd, 2005: 76

T69) Cleon Jones, 1969: 75
T69) Tommie Agee, 1970: 75
T69) David Wright, 2005: 75

T72) 1991 Kevin McReynolds 74
T72) 1983 Darryl Strawberry 74

T74) Tommy Davis, 1967: 73
T74) John Stearns, 1978: 73
T74) Hubie Brooks, 1984: 73

T77) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1997: 72
T77) Dave Magadan, 1990: 72
T77) John Milner, 1973: 72
T77) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 72

81) Ty Wigginton, 2003: 71

T82) Bobby Bonilla, 1992: 70
T82) George Foster, 1982: 70

Elster88
Aug 22 2005 12:00 PM

I'm surprised that there have only been 16 times when a Met reached 100 RBI for a season.

Elster88
Aug 24 2005 10:09 AM

All-Time Met Doubles in a Single Season

David Wright Projected to End of Season 44.06371
1. 1996 Bernard Gilkey 44
T-2. 1989 Howard Johnson 41
T-2. 1999 Edgardo Alfonzo 41
T-4. 1990 Gregg Jefferies 40
T-4. 2000 Edgardo Alfonzo 40
6. 1999 John Olerud 39
7. 1999 Robin Ventura 38
T-8. 1992 Eddie Murray 37
T-8. 1990 Howard Johnson 37
T-8. 1987 Lenny Dykstra 37
T-8. 1975 Felix Millan 37
T-8. 1979 Joel Youngblood 37
T-13. 1998 Brian McRae 36
T-13. 1998 John Olerud 36
T-13. 1973 Rusty Staub 36
T-13. 2000 Todd Zeile 36
T-13. 2003 Ty Wigginton 36
T-18. 1997 John Olerud 34
T-18. 1991 Howard Johnson 34
T-18. 1985 Keith Hernandez 34
T-18. 1986 Keith Hernandez 34
T-18. 1979 Lee Mazzilli 34
T-18. 2005 David Wright 34

MFS62
Aug 24 2005 10:25 AM

Elster88 wrote:
I'm surprised that there have only been 16 times when a Met reached 100 RBI for a season.


I'm not.
I've been following the team since the beginning, and was amazed that there were so many.

Later

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 24 2005 10:28 AM

Me too. Well, I haven't been around since the beginning, but I do remember when the Mets had never had a 100-rbi season. The first was Rusty Staub in 1975. (And then they traded him!)

I can't remember what club record Rusty broke that year. Maybe I'll look it up.

Willets Point
Aug 24 2005 10:32 AM

Looks like he broke his own record: T54) Rusty Staub, 1974: 78

seawolf17
Aug 24 2005 10:37 AM

Donn Clendenon, 97 RBI in 1970.

Willets Point
Aug 24 2005 10:54 AM

Damn, fooled by Edgy's snip once again!

Elster88
Aug 25 2005 08:19 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 25 2005 08:28 AM

MLB RANKNL RANKPLAYERTEAMPOSGABHAVG
11LeeCHC1B124468165.353
22CabreraFLAOF124479161.336
33PujolsSTL1B126474158.333
4DamonBOSOF116499164.329
5YoungTEXSS122522169.324
64CaseyCIN1B119456145.318
T-7HafnerCLEDH102361114.316
T-7RodriguezNYY3B125471149.316
9GuerreroANAOF108406128.315
T-10TejadaBALSS125500157.314
T-105WrightNYM3B124443139.314

Valadius
Aug 25 2005 08:24 AM

How is Hafner tied for 7th with nobody?

Elster88
Aug 25 2005 08:29 AM

Fixed.

SI Metman
Aug 25 2005 08:57 AM

A-Rod... nobody... same difference

Elster88
Aug 25 2005 09:14 AM

The two triples he's hit in Arizona are his only ones in a month. He takes sole possesson of 12th all time.

All-Time Met Triples in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 21
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 16.71424
2) Jose Reyes, 2005: 13
3) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 10
T4) Charlie Neal, 1962: 9
T4) Steve Henderson, 1978: 9
T4) Frank Taveras, 1979: 9
T4) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 9

All-Time Met Triples in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 62
2) Bud Harrelson: 45
3) Cleon Jones: 33
4) Steve Henderson: 31
5) Darryl Strawberry: 30
6) Lance Johnson: 27
7) Doug Flynn: 26
8) Ed Kranepool: 25
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 22.71424
9) Lee Mazzilli: 22
T10) Ron Swoboda: 20
T10) Wayne Garrett: 20
12) Jose Reyes: 19
...Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 6

Edgy DC
Aug 27 2005 03:56 PM

Career triple number 20 ties Jose for tenth all-time as a Met.

And he's what? Nine years old?

All-Time Met Triples in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 21
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 17.58
2) Jose Reyes, 2005: 14
3) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 10
T4) Charlie Neal, 1962: 9
T4) Steve Henderson, 1978: 9
T4) Frank Taveras, 1979: 9
T4) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 9

All-Time Met Triples in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 62
2) Bud Harrelson: 45
3) Cleon Jones: 33
4) Steve Henderson: 31
5) Darryl Strawberry: 30
6) Lance Johnson: 27
7) Doug Flynn: 26
8) Ed Kranepool: 25
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 23.58
9) Lee Mazzilli: 22
T10) Ron Swoboda: 20
T10) Wayne Garrett: 20
T10) Jose Reyes: 20
...Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 6

Benjamin Grimm
Aug 27 2005 05:06 PM

And by next season he could be in second or third place.

This is from [url=http://ultimatemets.com/profile.php?PlayerCode=0707]his page[/url] on the UMDB:

  • Led Mets in triples with 2 in 2004.


Looks strange, doesn't it, in light of how he's doing this season.

Valadius
Sep 03 2005 06:01 PM

BUMP.

Somebody update this, I forget how to do the table thingies.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 03 2005 06:08 PM

How did Kranepool ever get 25 triples? I thought he was slow first baseman. How many times can an outfielder knock himself unconscious or break a leg trying to make a play. Hard to imagine ED legging out all those doubles any other way, no matter how many at bats he had in his career.

Edgy DC
Sep 03 2005 06:28 PM

Updating.

Ed had parts of 17 years. Simple as that.

Poor Rocky. MIA in New Orleans and getting passed by Reyes.

All-Time Met Triples in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 21
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 18
2) Jose Reyes, 2005: 15
3) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 10
T4) Charlie Neal, 1962: 9
T4) Steve Henderson, 1978: 9
T4) Frank Taveras, 1979: 9
T4) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 9

All-Time Met Triples in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 62
2) Bud Harrelson: 45
3) Cleon Jones: 33
4) Steve Henderson: 31
5) Darryl Strawberry: 30
6) Lance Johnson: 27
7) Doug Flynn: 26
8) Ed Kranepool: 25
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 24
9) Lee Mazzilli: 22
10) Jose Reyes: 21
T11) Ron Swoboda: 20
T11) Wayne Garrett: 20
...Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 6

Elster88
Sep 03 2005 06:56 PM

We have another Met who has broken the top ten in a single season category.

All Time Met Hit Batsmen in a Single Season

1. 2002 Pedro Astacio 16
Victor Zambrano Projected to End of Season 15.71643
T-2. 2001 Kevin Appier 15
T-2. 1971 Nolan Ryan 15
4. Victor Zambrano 13
5. 1963 Al Jackson 12
T-6. 1999 Orel Hershiser 11 1999
T-6. 1999 Al Leiter 11
T-6. 2000 Al Leiter 11
T-6. 2000 Al Leiter 11
T-10. 1968 Don Cardwell 10
T-10. 1964 Jack Fisher 10
T-10. 1996 Paul Wilson 10
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This post was under the designation 165) Jose Reyes

Bret Sabermetric
Sep 04 2005 06:32 AM

Yancy Street Gang wrote:
And by next season he could be in second or third place.

This is from [url=http://ultimatemets.com/profile.php?PlayerCode=0707]his page[/url] on the UMDB:

  • Led Mets in triples with 2 in 2004.


Looks strange, doesn't it, in light of how he's doing this season.


Shouldn't that read "tied for the Met lead in triples, 2"?

Edgy DC
Sep 06 2005 08:00 PM

All-Time Met Doubles in a Single Season

1) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 44
David Wright Projected to End of Season 43.43478
T2) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T2) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 41
T4) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 40
T4) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 40
6) John Olerud, 1999: 39
7) Robin Ventura, 1999: 38
T8) Eddie Murray, 1992: 37
T8) Howard Johnson, 1990: 37
T8) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 37
T8) Felix Millan, 1975: 37
T8) Joel Youngblood, 1979: 37
T8) David Wright, 2005: 37

Valadius
Sep 07 2005 07:35 PM

Reyes is now tied with Lance Johnson's CRAZY '96 season.

Elster88
Sep 08 2005 07:35 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 08 2005 07:51 AM

No, he's not.

OE: oops, thought you meant triples.
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Elster88
Sep 08 2005 07:45 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 08 2005 07:51 AM

Does anyone know off the top of their head who was the last Met to finish in the top 5 in the NL in batting average? Olerud? I don't think Fonzie did in '99 or '00.

MLB RANKNL RANKPLAYERTEAMPOSGABHAVG
11LeeCHC1B135511176.344
22PujolsSTL1B139519175.337
33CabreraFLAOF137530175.330
4YoungTEXSS137585192.328
5DamonBOSOF129548177.323
6RodriguezNYY3B138514165.321
7GuerreroANAOF120447142.318
84CaseyCIN1B131505160.317
95WrightNYM3B137491155.316
10TejadaBALSS139558175.314


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Edgy DC
Sep 08 2005 07:48 AM

All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Season

1) Roger Cedeño, 1999: 66
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 58.27
2) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 58
3) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 54
4) Lance Johnson, 1996: 50
T4) Jose Reyes, 2005: 50
6) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 46
7) Frank Taveras: 1979: 42
T8) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T8) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 41
10) Vince Coleman, 1993: 38
T11) Vince Coleman, 1991: 37
T11) Rickey Henderson, 1999: 37
13) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 36
T14) Howard Johnson, 1990: 34
T14) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34
16) Lenny Randle, 1977: 33
T17) Howard Johnson, 1987: 32
T17) Frank Taveras, 1980: 32
T17) Wally Backman, 1984: 32
T20) Juan Samuel, 1989: 31
T20) Tommie Agee, 1970: 31
T20) Lenny Dykstra, 1986: 31
T23) Howard Johnson, 1991: 30
T23) Lenny Dykstra, 1988: 30
T23) Wally Backman, 1985: 30
26) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 29
T27) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 28
T27) Tommie Agee, 1971: 28
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 28
T30) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 27
T30) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 27
T32) Gregg Jefferies, 1991: 26
T32) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 26
T34) John Stearns, 1978: 25
T34) Mookie Wilson, 1986: 25
T34) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25
T37) Vince Coleman, 1992: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 24
T40) Howard Johnson, 1988: 23
T40) Steve Henderson, 1980: 23
T40) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 23
T40) Cleon Jones, 1968: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1992: 22
T44) Joe Foy, 1970 22
T44) Lee Mazzilli, 1977: 22
T44) Mike Cameron, 2004: 22
T48) Brett Butler, 1995: 21
T48) Gregg Jefferies, 1989: 21
T48) Mookie Wilson, 1987: 21
T48) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 21
All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 281
2) Howard Johnson: 202
3) Darryl Strawberry: 191
4) Lee Mazzilli: 152
5) Lenny Dykstra: 116
6) Bud Harrelson: 115
7) Wally Backman: 106
8) Roger Cedeño: 105
9) Vince Coleman: 99
10) Tommie Agee: 92
T11) Cleon Jones: 91
T11) John Stearns: 91
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 90.27
13) Frank Taveras: 90
14) Jose Reyes: 82
15) Kevin McReynolds: 67
16) Lance Johnson: 65
17) Gregg Jefferies: 63
18) Steve Henderson: 55
19) Lenny Randle: 47
T20) Daryl Boston: 45
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 45
22) Keith Miller: 44
23) Rickey Henderson: 42
24) Bob Bailor: 40
25) Joel Youngblood: 39
26) Mike Cameron: 35
27) Wayne Garrett: 33
Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 32
T28) Hubie Brooks: 31
T28) Juan Samuel: 31
T30) Dave Kingman: 29
T30) Bernard Gilkey: 29
32) Rey Ordóñez: 28
33) Ken Boswell: 26
T34) Carl Everett: 25
T34) Brian McRae: 25
T34) Cliff Floyd: 25
37) Brian Giles: 23
T38) Joe Christopher: 22
T38) Joe Foy: 22
T38) Joe McEwing: 22
T38) Roberto Alomar: 22
T38) David Wright: 22
=orange]Mike Cameron at Start of Season: 22

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 08 2005 08:07 AM

Hmmm.

Assuming he doesn't actually get that extra 0.27 of a stolen base, he'll be tied with Mookie at 58 and Taveras at 90.

It would be nice if next year Jose could get 67 steals. I'd rather see him with the club record than Roger.

And let us not forget, another great thing about Jose's season is the number of games he's played.

Rockin' Doc
Sep 08 2005 11:09 AM
Where Mets Rank...

Atlanta...... ...81 59..... .579
Florida.......... 74 65......532..... 6.5
Philadelphia...73 67..... .521.... 8
Washington... 72 68.... .514.....9
NY Mets....... 70 69..... .504... 10.5

The more things change, the more they remain the same. At least were consistent.

Edgy DC
Sep 10 2005 06:07 PM

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 218.11
2) Mike Piazza: 216
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 703
4) Willie Mays: 660
=darkred]5) Sammy Sosa: 588
6) Frank Robinson: 586
7) Mark McGwire: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 569
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
29) Frank Thomas: 447
=darkred]30) Gary Sheffield: 443
31) Dave Kingman: 442
32) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]33) Juan Gonzalez: 434
34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]35) Jim Thome: 430
36) Billy Williams: 426
=darkred]37) Manny Ramirez: 424
=darkred]38) Alex Rodriguez: 422
39) Darrell Evans: 414
40) Duke Snider: 407
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
44) Joe Carter: 396
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 395.11
45) Mike Piazza: 393
46) Graig Nettles: 390
47) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378 R
56) Norm Cash* 377 L

Valadius
Sep 11 2005 02:55 AM

Why does Norm Cash have an asterisk next to his name?

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2005 06:03 AM

I stole the list initially from a site that put asterisks next to lefties. I removed all of them as irrelevant to the exercise, but inadvertantly left Cash's.

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2005 12:42 PM

Reyes passes LJ.

All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Season

1) Roger Cedeño, 1999: 66
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 58.18
2) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 58
3) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 54
4) Jose Reyes, 2005: 51
5) Lance Johnson, 1996: 50
6) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 46
7) Frank Taveras: 1979: 42
T8) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T8) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 41
10) Vince Coleman, 1993: 38
T11) Vince Coleman, 1991: 37
T11) Rickey Henderson, 1999: 37
13) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 36
T14) Howard Johnson, 1990: 34
T14) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34
16) Lenny Randle, 1977: 33
T17) Howard Johnson, 1987: 32
T17) Frank Taveras, 1980: 32
T17) Wally Backman, 1984: 32
T20) Juan Samuel, 1989: 31
T20) Tommie Agee, 1970: 31
T20) Lenny Dykstra, 1986: 31
T23) Howard Johnson, 1991: 30
T23) Lenny Dykstra, 1988: 30
T23) Wally Backman, 1985: 30
26) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 29
T27) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 28
T27) Tommie Agee, 1971: 28
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 28
T30) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 27
T30) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 27
T32) Gregg Jefferies, 1991: 26
T32) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 26
T34) John Stearns, 1978: 25
T34) Mookie Wilson, 1986: 25
T34) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25
T37) Vince Coleman, 1992: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 24
T40) Howard Johnson, 1988: 23
T40) Steve Henderson, 1980: 23
T40) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 23
T40) Cleon Jones, 1968: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1992: 22
T44) Joe Foy, 1970 22
T44) Lee Mazzilli, 1977: 22
T44) Mike Cameron, 2004: 22
T48) Brett Butler, 1995: 21
T48) Gregg Jefferies, 1989: 21
T48) Mookie Wilson, 1987: 21
T48) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 21
All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 281
2) Howard Johnson: 202
3) Darryl Strawberry: 191
4) Lee Mazzilli: 152
5) Lenny Dykstra: 116
6) Bud Harrelson: 115
7) Wally Backman: 106
8) Roger Cedeño: 105
9) Vince Coleman: 99
10) Tommie Agee: 92
T11) Cleon Jones: 91
T11) John Stearns: 91
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 90.18
13) Frank Taveras: 90
14) Jose Reyes: 83
15) Kevin McReynolds: 67
16) Lance Johnson: 65
17) Gregg Jefferies: 63
18) Steve Henderson: 55
19) Lenny Randle: 47
T20) Daryl Boston: 45
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 45
22) Keith Miller: 44
23) Rickey Henderson: 42
24) Bob Bailor: 40
25) Joel Youngblood: 39
26) Mike Cameron: 35
27) Wayne Garrett: 33
Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 32
T28) Hubie Brooks: 31
T28) Juan Samuel: 31
T30) Dave Kingman: 29
T30) Bernard Gilkey: 29
32) Rey Ordóñez: 28
33) Ken Boswell: 26
T34) Carl Everett: 25
T34) Brian McRae: 25
T34) Cliff Floyd: 25
37) Brian Giles: 23
T38) Joe Christopher: 22
T38) Joe Foy: 22
T38) Joe McEwing: 22
T38) Roberto Alomar: 22
T38) David Wright: 22
=orange]Mike Cameron at Start of Season: 22

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2005 12:58 PM

All-Time Mets Caught Stealings in a Season

1) Lenny Randle, 1977: 21
2) Frank Taveras, 1979: 19
3) Frank Taveras, 1980: 18
4) Roger Cedeño, 1999: 17
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 16
T5) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 16
T5) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 16
T8) John Stearns, 1979: 15
T8) Tommie Agee, 1970: 15
T8) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 15
T8) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 15
T12) Vince Coleman, 1991: 14
T12) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 14
T12) Rickey Henderson, 1999: 14
T15) Vince Coleman, 1993: 13
T15) Joe Foy, 1970: 13
T15) Bud Harrelson, 1967: 13
T15) John Stearns, 1978: 13
T15) Lee Mazzilli, 1978: 13
T15) Joel Youngblood, 1979: 13
T15) Jose Reyes, 2005: 13

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2005 02:23 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 11 2005 02:24 PM

All-Time Met Doubles in a Single Season

David Wright Projected to End of Season 44.18
1) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 44
T2) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T2) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 41
T4) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 40
T4) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 40
T6) John Olerud, 1999: 39
T6) David Wright, 2005: 39
8) Robin Ventura, 1999: 38
T9) Eddie Murray, 1992: 37
T9) Howard Johnson, 1990: 37
T9) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 37
T9) Felix Millan, 1975: 37
T8) Joel Youngblood, 1979: 37
All-Time Met Doubles in a Career

1)Ed Kranepool 225
2) Howard Johnson 214
3) Edgardo Alfonzo 212
4) Mike Piazza 193
5) Darryl Strawberry 187
6) Cleon Jones 182
7) Mookie Wilson 170
8) Keith Hernandez 159
9) Kevin McReynolds 153
10) John Stearns 152
11) Lee Mazzilli 148
12) Jerry Grote 143
13) Rusty Staub 130
14) Bud Harrelson 123
15) Todd Hundley 118
16) Rey Ordóñez 115
17) Felix Millan 111
18) Dave Magadan 110
19) John Olerud 109
20) Joel Youngblood 108
21) Tommie Agee 107
22) Lenny Dykstra 104
23) John Milner 100
T24) Jeff Kent 98
T24) Bobby Bonilla 98
T26) Hubie Brooks 96
T26) Gregg Jefferies 96
28) Wally Backman 95
29) George Foster 94
30) Wayne Garrett 93
31) Bernard Gilkey 90
32) Tim Teufel 87
33) Robin Ventura 81
34) Steve Henderson 79
T35) Jim Hickman 78
T35) Ron Hunt 78
37) Todd Zeile 77
38) Kevin Elster 75
39) Ken Boswell 74
T40) Ron Swoboda 73
T40) Gary Carter 73
42) Cliff Floyd 72
43) Dave Kingman 70
T44) Roger Cedeño 67
T44) Ty Wigginton 67
46) Eddie Murray 65
47) Frank Taveras 64
T48) Rafael Santana 62
T48) Butch Huskey 62
David Wright Projected to End of Season: 61.18
50) Timo Perez 61
51) Joe Christopher 59
T52) Doug Flynn 58
T52) Mackey Sasser 58
T54) Ron Hodges 56
T54) David Wright 56
55) Carlos Baerga 55
T57) Ryan Thompson 53
T58) Brian McRae 53
T59) Joe McEwing 53
T60) Mike Cameron 53 ...

...=orange]Wright at Start of Season: 17

Valadius
Sep 11 2005 02:24 PM

I was just going to comment on this, too...

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2005 02:26 PM

Beatcha.

Pay attention to the game.

All-Time Met Triples in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 21
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 18.125
2) Jose Reyes, 2005: 16
3) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 10
T4) Charlie Neal, 1962: 9
T4) Steve Henderson, 1978: 9
T4) Frank Taveras, 1979: 9
T4) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 9

All-Time Met Triples in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 62
2) Bud Harrelson: 45
3) Cleon Jones: 33
4) Steve Henderson: 31
5) Darryl Strawberry: 30
6) Lance Johnson: 27
7) Doug Flynn: 26
8) Ed Kranepool: 25
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 24.125
T9) Lee Mazzilli: 22
T9) Jose Reyes: 22
T11) Ron Swoboda: 20
T11) Wayne Garrett: 20
...Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 6

Edgy DC
Sep 11 2005 03:22 PM

Pedro not quite on a top-ten trajectory any more. Will the top ten remain a three-man club? Stay tuned.

All-Time Mets Strikeouts in a Single Season

1) Tom Seaver, 1971: 289
2) Tom Seaver, 1970: 283
3) Dwight Gooden, 1984: 276
4) Dwight Gooden, 1985: 268
5) Tom Seaver, 1973: 251
6) Tom Seaver, 1972: 249
7) Tom Seaver, 1975: 243
8) David Cone, 1991: 241
9) Tom Seaver, 1976: 235
10) David Cone, 1990: 233
Pedro Martinez Projected to End of Season: 223.1748
11) Dwight Gooden, 1990: 223
12) David Cone, 1992: 214
13) David Cone,1988: 213
14) Tom Seaver, 1969: 208
15) Jon Matlack, 1973: 205
16) Tom Seaver, 1968: 205
17) Tom Seaver, 1974: 201
18) Dwight Gooden, 1986: 200
19) Sid Fernandez, 1986: 200
20) Jerry Koosman, 1976: 200
21) Al Leiter, 2000: 200
22) Sid Fernandez, 1989: 198
23) Pedro Martinez, 2005: 197
24) Jon Matlack, 1974:195
25) Sid Fernandez, 1992: 193
26) Jerry Koosman, 1977: 192
27) David Cone, 1989: 190
28) Sid Fernandez, 1988: 189
29) Jerry Koosman, 1974: 188
30) Ron Darling, 1986: 184
All-Time Mets Strikeouts in a Career

1) Tom Seaver: 2541
2) Dwight Gooden: 1875
3) Jerry Koosman: 1799
4) Sid Fernandez: 1449
5) David Cone: 1172
6) Ron Darling: 1148
7) Al Leiter: 1106
8) Jon Matlack: 1023
9) Bobby Jones: 714
10) Craig Swan: 671
11) Tug McGraw: 618
12) John Franco: 592
13) Rick Reed: 590
14) Gary Gentry: 563
15) Al Jackson: 561
16) Jesse Orosco: 506
17) Nolan Ryan: 493
18) Steve Trachsel: 484
19) Jack Fisher: 475
20) Bob Ojeda: 459
21) Armando Benitez: 456
22) Jim McAndrew: 408
23) Dave Mlicki: 402
24) Pat Zachry: 391
25) Bret Saberhagen: 388
26) Frank Viola: 387
27) Ray Sadecki: 380
28) Pete Falcone: 379
29) Skip Lockwood: 368
30) Rick Aguilera: 351
31) Glendon Rusch: 313
32) Danny Frisella: 296
33) Neil Allen: 285
Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 278.89
34) Tom Glavine: 268
35) Randy Myers: 264
36) Ed Lynch: 259
37) Turk Wendell: 259
38) Dick Selma: 253
39) Dennis Cook: 234
40) Galen Cisco: 230
41) Tracy Stallard: 228
42) Roger McDowell: 228
43) Roger Craig: 226
44) Jason Isringhausen: 225
Pedro Martinez Projected to End of Season: 223.17
45) Masato Yoshii: 222
46) Don Cardwell: 221
47) Nino Espinosa: 215
Jae Weong Seo Projected to End of Season: 214.37
48) Mark Clark: 214
49) Wally Whitehurst: 212
50) Pete Harnisch: 208
51) Jae Weong Seo: 208
52) Jay Hook:: 207
53) Pete Schourek: 199
T54) Ron Taylor: 197
T54) Bob Apodaca: 197
T54) Pedro Martinez: 197
57) Terry Leach: 194
58) Jeff Innis: 192
=orange]Tom Glavine at Start of Season: 186
59) Walt Terrell: 181
60) Kevin Appier: 172

Edgy DC
Sep 16 2005 07:32 PM

Pedro's 2005 leapfrogs eight other Met seasons tonight. Eight. Among those are two Seaver seasons, a Gooden, a Cone, a Matlack, a Fernandez, a Fernandez, and a Leiter. He's among royalty. He also inches his pace closer to a top-ten finish.

Nothing but Seavers, Cones, and Goodens ahead of him.

He's also inching toward finishing his first season among the Mets all-time top 40 in strikeouts.

All-Time Mets Strikeouts in a Single Season

1) Tom Seaver, 1971: 289
2) Tom Seaver, 1970: 283
3) Dwight Gooden, 1984: 276
4) Dwight Gooden, 1985: 268
5) Tom Seaver, 1973: 251
6) Tom Seaver, 1972: 249
7) Tom Seaver, 1975: 243
8) David Cone, 1991: 241
9) Tom Seaver, 1976: 235
10) David Cone, 1990: 233
Pedro Martinez Projected to End of Season: 228.1224
11) Dwight Gooden, 1990: 223
12) David Cone, 1992: 214
13) David Cone,1988: 213
14) Tom Seaver, 1969: 208
15) Pedro Martinez, 2005: 207
T16) Jon Matlack, 1973: 205
T16) Tom Seaver, 1968: 205
18) Tom Seaver, 1974: 201
T19) Dwight Gooden, 1986: 200
T19) Sid Fernandez, 1986: 200
T19) Jerry Koosman, 1976: 200
T19) Al Leiter, 2000: 200
23) Sid Fernandez, 1989: 198
24) Jon Matlack, 1974:195
25) Sid Fernandez, 1992: 193
26) Jerry Koosman, 1977: 192
27) David Cone, 1989: 190
28) Sid Fernandez, 1988: 189
29) Jerry Koosman, 1974: 188
30) Ron Darling, 1986: 184
All-Time Mets Strikeouts in a Career

1) Tom Seaver: 2541
2) Dwight Gooden: 1875
3) Jerry Koosman: 1799
4) Sid Fernandez: 1449
5) David Cone: 1172
6) Ron Darling: 1148
7) Al Leiter: 1106
8) Jon Matlack: 1023
9) Bobby Jones: 714
10) Craig Swan: 671
11) Tug McGraw: 618
12) John Franco: 592
13) Rick Reed: 590
14) Gary Gentry: 563
15) Al Jackson: 561
16) Jesse Orosco: 506
17) Nolan Ryan: 493
18) Steve Trachsel: 484
19) Jack Fisher: 475
20) Bob Ojeda: 459
21) Armando Benitez: 456
22) Jim McAndrew: 408
23) Dave Mlicki: 402
24) Pat Zachry: 391
25) Bret Saberhagen: 388
26) Frank Viola: 387
27) Ray Sadecki: 380
28) Pete Falcone: 379
29) Skip Lockwood: 368
30) Rick Aguilera: 351
31) Glendon Rusch: 313
32) Danny Frisella: 296
33) Neil Allen: 285
Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 284.6735
34) Tom Glavine: 276
35) Randy Myers: 264
36) Ed Lynch: 259
37) Turk Wendell: 259
38) Dick Selma: 253
39) Dennis Cook: 234
40) Galen Cisco: 230
Pedro Martinez Projected to End of Season: 228.1224
41) Tracy Stallard: 228
42) Roger McDowell: 228
43) Roger Craig: 226
44) Jason Isringhausen: 225
Jae Weong Seo Projected to End of Season: 223.4081
45) Masato Yoshii: 222
46) Don Cardwell: 221
47) Jae Weong Seo: 218
48) Nino Espinosa: 215
49) Mark Clark: 214
50) Wally Whitehurst: 212
51) Pete Harnisch: 208
T52) Pedro Martinez: 207
T52) Jay Hook:: 207
54) Pete Schourek: 199
T55) Ron Taylor: 197
T55) Bob Apodaca: 197
57) Terry Leach: 194
58) Jeff Innis: 192
=orange]Tom Glavine at Start of Season: 186
59) Walt Terrell: 181
60) Kevin Appier: 172

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 17 2005 06:47 AM

]Pedro's 2005 leapfrogs eight other Met seasons tonight. Eight. Among those are two Seaver seasons, a Gooden, a Cone, a Matlack, a Fernandez, a Fernandez, and a Leiter. He's among royalty. He also inches his pace closer to a top-ten finish.


And a Koosman, too.

I think it's kinda neat how the Mets record for most strikeouts my a left-hander is exactly 200, and that it's shared by three pitchers.

If only Matlack had struck out five more in 1974...

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 17 2005 07:23 AM

Reyes getting into some exclusive territory. Ten more at bats, and he'll be in third place on this list. He has an outside shot at 700 at bats. (He'd need to average more than 5 per game.) But Lance Johnson is definitely within reach.

Players with more than 600 At Bats in a season

1.1996Lance Johnson682
2.1975Felix Millan676
3.1982Mookie Wilson639
4.1973Felix Millan638
5.1983Mookie Wilson638
6.1970Tommie Agee636
7.1979Frank Taveras635
8.2005Jose Reyes630
9.1999Edgardo Alfonzo628
10.1993Eddie Murray610
11.1978Willie Montanez609
12.1990Gregg Jefferies604
13.1983George Foster601

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 17 2005 07:29 AM

Players with more than 40 Doubles in a season

1.1996Bernard Gilkey44
2.1989Howard Johnson41
3.1999Edgardo Alfonzo41
4.1990Gregg Jefferies40
5.2000Edgardo Alfonzo40
6.2005David Wright40

Edgy DC
Sep 17 2005 07:42 AM

]And a Koosman, too.


Yeah, I accidentally put Fernandez twice.

MFS62
Sep 17 2005 08:33 AM

Don't know if this belongs here or in some other thread.
Last night, Pedro passed Hall of Famer Jim Bunning with 2,860 strikeouts, good for 14th place all time.

Later

Edgy DC
Sep 18 2005 02:21 PM

Ok, let's do it.

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 218.40
2) Mike Piazza: 217
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 704
4) Willie Mays: 660
=darkred]5) Sammy Sosa: 588
6) Frank Robinson: 586
7) Mark McGwire: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 569
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
29) Frank Thomas: 447
=darkred]30) Gary Sheffield: 443
31) Dave Kingman: 442
32) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]33) Juan Gonzalez: 434
34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]35) Jim Thome: 430
36) Billy Williams: 426
=darkred]T36) Manny Ramirez: 426
=darkred]38) Alex Rodriguez: 424
39) Darrell Evans: 414
40) Duke Snider: 407
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
44) Joe Carter: 396
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 395.40
45) Mike Piazza: 394
46) Graig Nettles: 390
47) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378
56) Norm Cash 377


Coming up, Cornelius Floyd

Zvon
Sep 18 2005 02:33 PM

="Yancy Street Gang"]Players with more than 40 Doubles in a season

1.1996Bernard Gilkey44
2.1989Howard Johnson41
3.1999Edgardo Alfonzo41
4.1990Gregg Jefferies40
5.2000Edgardo Alfonzo40
6.2005David Wright40


Ill be glad to create an updated versions to these cards(these cards were made in 2002 for the mets 40th anni)




I made an entire digital baseball card set that takes you thru the Mets 1st 40 yrs bk in 2002. Made it at work in my spare time and gave it to my brothers and met fan friends that Xmas as a PC slide show.

I will set this up to view somewhere and share this with you guys over the winter.

For now, a picture of a quarter will get you a 5 card pack any time Im logged in.

Edgy DC
Sep 18 2005 02:36 PM

Cliff has
(1) surpassed his highest single-season homerun total for his career
(2) passed three players to tie for the 17th-best homer-hitting season in Mets history
(3) hit his 200th career homer.

Two hundred isn't enough yet to look at him on all-time MLB lists, but let's look at the Met list.

All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
2) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T3) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T3) Darryl Strawberry 1987: 39
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T10) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T10) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T10) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 34.79
T14) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T14) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
16) Mike Piazza, 2002: 33
T17) Gary Carter, 1985: 32
T17) Robin Ventura, 1999: 32
T17) Cliff Floyd 2005 to Date: 32
T20) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 30
T20) Todd Hundley, 1997: 30
T20) Mike Cameron, 2004: 30
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 29
T23) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 29
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 29
26) George Foster, 1983: 28
T27) Eddie Murray, 1993: 27
T27) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 27
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 27
T27) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 27
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 26
T31) Tommie Agee, 1969: 26
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1983: 26
T31) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 26
All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 218.40
2) Mike Piazza: 217
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
16) Robin Ventura: 77
17) Rusty Staub: 75
Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 70.79
18) Ron Swoboda: 69
T19) Lee Mazzilli: 68
T19) Cliff Floyd: 68
21) Jeff Kent: 67
22) John Olerud: 63
T23) Jim Hickman: 60
T23) Mookie Wilson: 60
T25) Wayne Garrett: 55
T25) Butch Huskey: 55
27) Jeromy Burnitz: 53
T28) Frank Thomas: 52
T28) Bernard Gilkey: 52
30) John Stearns: 46
31) Donn Clendenon: 45 (RiP)
32) Hubie Brooks: 44
33) Eddie Murray: 43
T34) Art Shamsky: 42
T3r) Gregg Jefferies: 42
36) Todd Zeile: 41
37) Ryan Thompson: 39
38) Joel Youngblood: 38
=orange]Cliff Floyd at Season's Start: 36
T39) Charley Smith: 36
T39) Rico Brogna: 36
T39) Mike Cameron: 36

Edgy DC
Sep 18 2005 02:45 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Sep 18 2005 11:11 PM

All-Time Wins by a Major League Pitcher
(Active Non-Met Players in Red)

1) Cy Young: 511
2) Walter Johnson: 417
T3) Pete Alexander: 373
T3) Christy Mathewson: 373
5) Pud Galvin: 364
6) Warren Spahn: 363
7) Kid Nichols: 361
8) Tim Keefe: 342
9) Roger Clemens: 340
10) Steve Carlton: 329
11) John Clarkson: 328
12) Eddie Plank: 326
T13) Nolan Ryan: 324
T13) Don Sutton: 324
15) Phil Niekro: 318
16) Greg Maddux: 317
17) Gaylord Perry: 314
18) Tom Seaver: 311
19) Charley Radbourn: 309
20) Mickey Welch: 307
T21) Lefty Grove: 300
T21) Early Wynn: 300
23) Bobby Mathews: 297
24) Tommy John: 288
25) Bert Blyleven: 287
26) Robin Roberts: 286
T27) Fergie Jenkins: 284
T27) Tony Mullane: 284
29) Jim Kaat: 283
=blue]Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 274.04
T30) Red Ruffing: 273
T30) Tom Glavine: 273
32) Burleigh Grimes: 270
33) Jim Palmer: 268
T34) Bob Feller: 266
T34) Eppa Rixey: 266
36) Jim McCormick: 265
37) Gus Weyhing: 264
=orange]Tom Glavine at start of Season: 262
38)Ted Lyons: 260
T39) Red Faber: 254
T39) Jack Morris: 254
All-Time Wins by a Mets Pitcher


1) Tom Seaver: 198
2) Dwight Gooden: 157
3) Jerry Koosman: 140
4) Ron Darling: 99
5) Sid Fernandez: 98
6) Al Leiter: 95
7) Jon Matlack: 82
8) David Cone: 81
9) Bobby Jones: 74
T10) Craig Swan: 59
T10) Rick Reed: 59
12) Bob Ojeda: 51
=blue]Steve Trachsel Projected to End of Season: 51.09
13) Steve Trachsel: 51
=orange]Steve Trachsel at Start of Season: 50
14) John Franco: 48
T15) Tug McGraw: 47
T15) Jesse Orosco: 47
17) Al Jackson: 43
T18) Gary Gentry: 41
T18) Pat Zachry: 41
T20) Jack Fisher: 38
T20) Ed Lynch: 38
T20) Frank Viola: 38
23) Rick Aguilera: 37
24) Jim McAndrew: 36
25) Roger McDowell: 33
=blue]Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 32.04
26) Tom Glavine: 31
27) Ray Sadecki: 30
T28) Nolan Ryan: 29
T28) Bret Saberhagen: 29
30) Pete Falcone: 26
T31) Nino Espinosa: 25
T31) Neil Allen: 25
T31) Dennis Cook: 25
T34) Danny Frisella: 24
T34) Skip Lockwood: 24
T34) Terry Leach: 24
T34) Dave Mlicki: 24
T38) Mark Clark: 22
T38) Turk Wendell: 22
=blue]Jae Weong Seo: 21.61
T40) Ron Taylor: 21
T40) Jae Weong Seo: 21
42) Don Cardwell: 20
=orange]Tom Glavine at Start of Season: 20
T43) Walt Terrell: 19
T43) Glendon Rusch: 19

ScarletKnight41
Sep 18 2005 04:52 PM

I love Zvon's handiwork with those cards!

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 18 2005 07:34 PM

How great would it be if Tom Glavine won 27 games next season for the Mets?

Edgy DC
Sep 18 2005 07:50 PM

I'll happily take half that.

Edgy DC
Sep 18 2005 09:53 PM

All-Time Hits in a Met Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 227
2) John Olerud, 1998: 197
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 191.36
T3) Felix Millan, 1975: 191
T3) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 191
5) Felix Millan, 1973: 185
6) Keith Hernandez, 1985: 183
7) Tommie Agee, 1970: 182
T8) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 181
T8) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 181
10) Mookie Wilson,1982: 178
11) Robin Ventura, 1999: 177
T12) Mookie Wilson,1983: 176
T12) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 176
T12) Jose Reyes, 2005: 176
T14) Eddie Murray, 1993: 174
T14) Tommy Davis, 1967: 174
17) John Olerud, 1999: 173
T18) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 171
T18) Keith Hernandez, 1986: 171
T18) Keith Hernandez, 1984: 171
All-Time At-Bats in a Met Season

Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 692.58
1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 682
2) Felix Millan, 1975: 676
3) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 639
4) Jose Reyes, 2005: 637
T5) Felix Millan, 1973: 638
T5) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 638
7) Tommie Agee, 1970: 636
8) Frank Taveras, 1979: 635
9) Edgardo Alfonzo 1999: 628
10) Eddie Murray, 1993: 610
11) Willie Montanez, 1978: 609
12) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 604
13) George Foster, 1983: 601
14) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 597
15) Keith Hernandez, 1985: 593
T16) Howard Johnson, 1990: 590
T16) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 590
T16) Joel Youngblood, 1979: 590
T16) Roberto Alomar, 2002: 590
20) Robin Ventura, 1999: 588

Edgy DC
Sep 18 2005 10:29 PM

All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Season

1) Roger Cedeño, 1999: 66
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 58.71
2) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 58
T3) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 54
T3) Jose Reyes, 2005: 54
5) Lance Johnson, 1996: 50
6) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 46
7) Frank Taveras: 1979: 42
T8) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T8) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 41
10) Vince Coleman, 1993: 38
T11) Vince Coleman, 1991: 37
T11) Rickey Henderson, 1999: 37
13) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 36
T14) Howard Johnson, 1990: 34
T14) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34
16) Lenny Randle, 1977: 33
T17) Howard Johnson, 1987: 32
T17) Frank Taveras, 1980: 32
T17) Wally Backman, 1984: 32
T20) Juan Samuel, 1989: 31
T20) Tommie Agee, 1970: 31
T20) Lenny Dykstra, 1986: 31
T23) Howard Johnson, 1991: 30
T23) Lenny Dykstra, 1988: 30
T23) Wally Backman, 1985: 30
26) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 29
T27) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 28
T27) Tommie Agee, 1971: 28
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 28
T30) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 27
T30) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 27
T32) Gregg Jefferies, 1991: 26
T32) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 26
T34) John Stearns, 1978: 25
T34) Mookie Wilson, 1986: 25
T34) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25
T37) Vince Coleman, 1992: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 24
T40) Howard Johnson, 1988: 23
T40) Steve Henderson, 1980: 23
T40) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 23
T40) Cleon Jones, 1968: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1992: 22
T44) Joe Foy, 1970 22
T44) Lee Mazzilli, 1977: 22
T44) Mike Cameron, 2004: 22
T48) Brett Butler, 1995: 21
T48) Gregg Jefferies, 1989: 21
T48) Mookie Wilson, 1987: 21
T48) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 21
All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 281
2) Howard Johnson: 202
3) Darryl Strawberry: 191
4) Lee Mazzilli: 152
5) Lenny Dykstra: 116
6) Bud Harrelson: 115
7) Wally Backman: 106
8) Roger Cedeño: 105
9) Vince Coleman: 99
10) Tommie Agee: 92
T11) Cleon Jones: 91
T11) John Stearns: 91
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 90.71
13) Frank Taveras: 90
14) Jose Reyes: 86
15) Kevin McReynolds: 67
16) Lance Johnson: 65
17) Gregg Jefferies: 63
18) Steve Henderson: 55
19) Lenny Randle: 47
T20) Daryl Boston: 45
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 45
22) Keith Miller: 44
23) Rickey Henderson: 42
24) Bob Bailor: 40
25) Joel Youngblood: 39
26) Mike Cameron: 35
27) Wayne Garrett: 33
Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 32
T28) Hubie Brooks: 31
T28) Juan Samuel: 31
T30) Dave Kingman: 29
T30) Bernard Gilkey: 29
32) Rey Ordóñez: 28
33) Ken Boswell: 26
Cliff Floyd Projected to End of Season: 25.96
T34) Carl Everett: 25
T34) Brian McRae: 25
T34) Cliff Floyd: 25
David Wright Projected to End of Season: 24.48
37) Brian Giles: 23
T37) David Wright: 23
T39) Joe Christopher: 22
T39) Joe Foy: 22
T39) Joe McEwing: 22
T39) Roberto Alomar: 22
=orange]Mike Cameron at Start of Season: 22


I wonder when he gets the team outs record. It seems almost guaranteed at this point.

Valadius
Sep 18 2005 10:50 PM

Anybody want to go calculate THAT?

Edgy DC
Sep 21 2005 06:10 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 21 2005 06:18 PM

All-Time Met Doubles in a Single Season

1) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 44
David Wright Projected to End of Season 43.9868
T2) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T2) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 41
T2) David Wright, 2005: 41
T5) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 40
T5) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 40
7) John Olerud, 1999: 39
8) Robin Ventura, 1999: 38
T9) Eddie Murray, 1992: 37
T9) Howard Johnson, 1990: 37
T9) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 37
T9) Felix Millan, 1975: 37
T9) Joel Youngblood, 1979: 37
All-Time Met Doubles in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 225
2) Howard Johnson: 214
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 212
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season 194.6755
4) Mike Piazza: 193
5) Darryl Strawberry: 187
6) Cleon Jones: 182
7) Mookie Wilson: 170
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season 170
8) Keith Hernandez: 159
9) Kevin McReynolds: 153
10) John Stearns: 152
11) Lee Mazzilli: 148
12) Jerry Grote: 143
13) Rusty Staub: 130
14) Bud Harrelson: 123
15) Todd Hundley: 118
16) Rey Ordóñez: 115
17) Felix Millan: 111
18) Dave Magadan: 110
19) John Olerud: 109
20) Joel Youngblood: 108
21) Tommie Agee: 107
22) Lenny Dykstra: 104
23) John Milner: 100
T24) Jeff Kent: 98
T24) Bobby Bonilla: 98
T26) Hubie Brooks: 96
T26) Gregg Jefferies: 96
28) Wally Backman: 95
29) George Foster: 94
30) Wayne Garrett: 93
31) Bernard Gilkey: 90
32) Tim Teufel: 87
33) Robin Ventura: 81
34) Steve Henderson: 79
T35) Jim Hickman: 78
T35) Ron Hunt: 78
37) Todd Zeile: 77
38) Kevin Elster: 75
39) Ken Boswell: 74
Cliff Floyd at Start of Season 73.5298
T40) Ron Swoboda: 73
T40) Gary Carter: 73
42) Cliff Floyd: 72
43) Dave Kingman: 70
T44) Roger Cedeño: 67
T44) Ty Wigginton: 67
46) Eddie Murray: 65
47) Frank Taveras: 64
T48) Rafael Santana: 62
T48) Butch Huskey: 62
50) Timo Perez: 61
David Wright Projected to End of Season 59.9868
51) Joe Christopher: 59
T52) Doug Flynn: 58
T52) Mackey Sasser: 58
54) David Wright: 57
55) Ron Hodges: 56
56) Carlos Baerga: 55
T57) Ryan Thompson: 53
T57) Brian McRae: 53
T57) Joe McEwing: 53
T57) Mike Cameron: 53...
=orange]Cliff Floyd at Start of Season 51

...T142) Felix Mantilla: 17
T142) Tom Seaver: 17
T142) Kelvin Chapman: 17
=orange]David Wright at Start of Season 17
T145) Mike Phillips: 16
T145) Claudell Washington: 16
T145) Miguel Cairo: 16
T145) Ramon Castro: 16
T149) Ed Bressoud: 15
T149) Jerry Buchek: 15
T149) Mike Fitzgerald: 15
T149) Dwight Gooden: 15
T149) John Valentin: 15

Zvon
Sep 21 2005 06:16 PM

yep----time for an update set.

Edgy DC
Sep 22 2005 07:44 AM

Jose is on the verge of besting Mookie's best. He's also projecting himself into the top-ten all-time Met base thieves

All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Season

1) Roger Cedeño, 1999: 66
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 61.15
2) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 58
3) Jose Reyes, 2005: 57
4) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 54
5) Lance Johnson, 1996: 50
6) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 46
7) Frank Taveras: 1979: 42
T8) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T8) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 41
10) Vince Coleman, 1993: 38
T11) Vince Coleman, 1991: 37
T11) Rickey Henderson, 1999: 37
13) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 36
T14) Howard Johnson, 1990: 34
T14) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34
16) Lenny Randle, 1977: 33
T17) Howard Johnson, 1987: 32
T17) Frank Taveras, 1980: 32
T17) Wally Backman, 1984: 32
T20) Juan Samuel, 1989: 31
T20) Tommie Agee, 1970: 31
T20) Lenny Dykstra, 1986: 31
T23) Howard Johnson, 1991: 30
T23) Lenny Dykstra, 1988: 30
T23) Wally Backman, 1985: 30
26) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 29
T27) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 28
T27) Tommie Agee, 1971: 28
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 28
T30) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 27
T30) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 27
T32) Gregg Jefferies, 1991: 26
T32) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 26
T34) John Stearns, 1978: 25
T34) Mookie Wilson, 1986: 25
T34) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25
T37) Vince Coleman, 1992: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 24
T40) Howard Johnson, 1988: 23
T40) Steve Henderson, 1980: 23
T40) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 23
T40) Cleon Jones, 1968: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1992: 22
T44) Joe Foy, 1970 22
T44) Lee Mazzilli, 1977: 22
T44) Mike Cameron, 2004: 22
T48) Brett Butler, 1995: 21
T48) Gregg Jefferies, 1989: 21
T48) Mookie Wilson, 1987: 21
T48) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 21
All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 281
2) Howard Johnson: 202
3) Darryl Strawberry: 191
4) Lee Mazzilli: 152
5) Lenny Dykstra: 116
6) Bud Harrelson: 115
7) Wally Backman: 106
8) Roger Cedeño: 105
9) Vince Coleman: 99
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 93.15
10) Tommie Agee: 92
T11) Cleon Jones: 91
T11) John Stearns: 91
13) Frank Taveras: 90
14) Jose Reyes: 89
15) Kevin McReynolds: 67
16) Lance Johnson: 65
17) Gregg Jefferies: 63
18) Steve Henderson: 55
19) Lenny Randle: 47
T20) Daryl Boston: 45
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 45
22) Keith Miller: 44
23) Rickey Henderson: 42
24) Bob Bailor: 40
25) Joel Youngblood: 39
26) Mike Cameron: 35
27) Wayne Garrett: 33
Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 32
T28) Hubie Brooks: 31
T28) Juan Samuel: 31
T30) Dave Kingman: 29
T30) Bernard Gilkey: 29
32) Rey Ordóñez: 28
33) Ken Boswell: 26
Cliff Floyd Projected to End of Season: 25.80
T34) Carl Everett: 25
T34) Brian McRae: 25
T34) Cliff Floyd: 25
David Wright Projected to End of Season: 24.23
37) Brian Giles: 23
T37) David Wright: 23
T39) Joe Christopher: 22
T39) Joe Foy: 22
T39) Joe McEwing: 22
T39) Roberto Alomar: 22
=orange]Mike Cameron at Start of Season: 22

Elster88
Sep 22 2005 07:47 AM

I really like those cards Zvon. You just have to fix the all-time home run card. You have HoJo ahead of Mikey.
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Edgy DC
Sep 22 2005 01:16 PM

Piazza's gone from eleventh to seventh on the hit list, with a good chance to finish fifth.

Jose Reyes is now a top-ten single-season hitter for the Mets. David Wright is also entering that picture.

All-Time Met Hits in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 1418
2) Cleon Jones: 1188
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 1136
4) Mookie Wilson: 1112
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 1030.9934
5) Bud Harrelson: 1029
6) Darryl Strawberry: 1025
7) Mike Piazza: 1024
8) Howard Johnson: 997
9) Jerry Grote: 994
10) Keith Hernandez: 939
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 928
11) Lee Mazzilli: 796
12) Kevin McReynolds: 791
13) Felix Millan: 743
14) Rey Ordóñez: 720
15) Rusty Staub: 709
16) John Stearns: 695
17) Wally Backman: 670
18) Wayne Garrett: 667
19) Hubie Brooks: 640
20) Tommie Agee: 632
21) Todd Hundley: 612
22) Dave Magadan: 610
23) George Foster: 602
24) John Milner: 586
25) Gary Carter: 542
26) Ron Swoboda: 536
27) Ken Boswell: 528
28) John Olerud: 524
29) Joel Youngblood: 519
30) Steve Henderson: 516
All-Time Met Hits in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 227
2) John Olerud, 1998: 197
T3) Felix Millan, 1975: 191
T3) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 191
Jose Reyes, Projected to End of Season: 190.9669
5) Felix Millan, 1973: 185
6) Keith Hernandez, 1985: 183
7) Tommie Agee, 1970: 182
T8) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 181
T8) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 181
T10) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 178
T10) Jose Reyes, 2005: 178
David Wright, Projected to End of Season: 166
12) Robin Ventura, 1999: 177
T13) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 176
T13) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 176
T14) Eddie Murray, 1993: 174
T14) Tommy Davis, 1967: 174
17) John Olerud, 1999: 173
T18) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 171
T18) Keith Hernandez, 1986: 171
T18) Keith Hernandez, 1984: 171
21) Keith Hernandez, 1987: 170
22) Frank Taveras, 1979: 167
23) David Wright, 2005: 166
T24) Howard Johnson, 1989: 164
T24) Cleon Jones, 1969: 164
T26) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1997: 163
T26) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 163
T26) Joe Christopher, 1964: 163
T26) Rusty Staub, 1973: 163
T30) Rusty Staub, 1975: 162
T30) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 162

Elster88
Sep 22 2005 01:18 PM

Rey Ordonez, 14th most prolific hitter in Mets' history.
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Edgy DC
Sep 22 2005 10:26 PM

It's not like he's the only punch line in that list either, with Bud Harrelson fifth and Jerry Grote ninth. Felix Millan (13th) was only an occasional contributor also.

Edgy DC
Sep 22 2005 10:37 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 23 2005 07:20 AM

One K tonight. Very disappointing, but it gets Pedro into the Seaver-Gooden-Cone Zone.

All-Time Mets Strikeouts in a Single Season

1) Tom Seaver, 1971: 289
2) Tom Seaver, 1970: 283
3) Dwight Gooden, 1984: 276
4) Dwight Gooden, 1985: 268
5) Tom Seaver, 1973: 251
6) Tom Seaver, 1972: 249
7) Tom Seaver, 1975: 243
8) David Cone, 1991: 241
9) Tom Seaver, 1976: 235
10) David Cone, 1990: 233
11) Dwight Gooden, 1990: 223
Pedro Martinez Projected to End of Season: 221.6842
12) David Cone, 1992: 214
13) David Cone,1988: 213
T14) Tom Seaver, 1969: 208
T14) Pedro Martinez, 2005: 208
T16) Jon Matlack, 1973: 205
T16) Tom Seaver, 1968: 205
18) Tom Seaver, 1974: 201
T19) Dwight Gooden, 1986: 200
T19) Sid Fernandez, 1986: 200
T19) Jerry Koosman, 1976: 200
T19) Al Leiter, 2000: 200
23) Sid Fernandez, 1989: 198
24) Jon Matlack, 1974:195
25) Sid Fernandez, 1992: 193
26) Jerry Koosman, 1977: 192
27) David Cone, 1989: 190
28) Sid Fernandez, 1988: 189
29) Jerry Koosman, 1974: 188
30) Ron Darling, 1986: 184
All-Time Mets Strikeouts in a Career

1) Tom Seaver: 2541
2) Dwight Gooden: 1875
3) Jerry Koosman: 1799
4) Sid Fernandez: 1449
5) David Cone: 1172
6) Ron Darling: 1148
7) Al Leiter: 1106
8) Jon Matlack: 1023
9) Bobby Jones: 714
10) Craig Swan: 671
11) Tug McGraw: 618
12) John Franco: 592
13) Rick Reed: 590
14) Gary Gentry: 563
15) Al Jackson: 561
16) Jesse Orosco: 506
17) Nolan Ryan: 493
Steve Trachsel, Projected to End of Season: 489.7895
18) Steve Trachsel: 489
Steve Trachsel, at Start of Season: 477
19) Jack Fisher: 475
20) Bob Ojeda: 459
21) Armando Benitez: 456
22) Jim McAndrew: 408
23) Dave Mlicki: 402
24) Pat Zachry: 391
25) Bret Saberhagen: 388
26) Frank Viola: 387
27) Ray Sadecki: 380
28) Pete Falcone: 379
29) Skip Lockwood: 368
30) Rick Aguilera: 351
31) Glendon Rusch: 313
32) Danny Frisella: 296
33) Neil Allen: 285
Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 284.7895
34) Tom Glavine: 279
35) Randy Myers: 264
36) Ed Lynch: 259
37) Turk Wendell: 259
38) Dick Selma: 253
39) Dennis Cook: 234
40) Galen Cisco: 230
41) Tracy Stallard: 228
42) Roger McDowell: 228
43) Roger Craig: 226
44) Jason Isringhausen: 225
Jae Weong Seo Projected to End of Season: 223.6184
45) Masato Yoshii: 222
Pedro Martinez Projected to End of Season: 221.6842
46) Don Cardwell: 221
47) Jae Weong Seo: 220
48) Nino Espinosa: 215
49) Mark Clark: 214
50) Wally Whitehurst: 212
T51) Pete Harnisch: 208
T51) Pedro Martinez: 208
53) Jay Hook: 207
54) Pete Schourek: 199
T55) Ron Taylor: 197
T55) Bob Apodaca: 197
57) Terry Leach: 194
58) Jeff Innis: 192
=orange]Tom Glavine at Start of Season: 186
59) Walt Terrell: 181
60) Kevin Appier: 172

Elster88
Sep 23 2005 06:58 AM

From Gary's postgame chatter it sounds like Pedro might not pitch again this year.

Edgy DC
Sep 24 2005 09:23 PM

Pretty good counting year for Glavine, passing seven guys on the all-time win list and 15 on the Mets list.

All-Time Wins by a Major League Pitcher
(Active Non-Met Players in Red)

1) Cy Young: 511
2) Walter Johnson: 417
T3) Pete Alexander: 373
T3) Christy Mathewson: 373
5) Pud Galvin: 364
6) Warren Spahn: 363
7) Kid Nichols: 361
8) Tim Keefe: 342
9) Roger Clemens: 340
10) Steve Carlton: 329
11) John Clarkson: 328
12) Eddie Plank: 326
T13) Nolan Ryan: 324
T13) Don Sutton: 324
15) Phil Niekro: 318
16) Greg Maddux: 318
17) Gaylord Perry: 314
18) Tom Seaver: 311
19) Charley Radbourn: 309
20) Mickey Welch: 307
T21) Lefty Grove: 300
T21) Early Wynn: 300
23) Bobby Mathews: 297
24) Tommy John: 288
25) Bert Blyleven: 287
26) Robin Roberts: 286
T27) Fergie Jenkins: 284
T27) Tony Mullane: 284
29) Jim Kaat: 283
=blue]Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 274.62
30) Tom Glavine: 274
T30) Red Ruffing: 273
32) Burleigh Grimes: 270
33) Jim Palmer: 268
T34) Bob Feller: 266
T34) Eppa Rixey: 266
36) Jim McCormick: 265
37) Gus Weyhing: 264
=orange]Tom Glavine at Start of Season: 262
38)Ted Lyons: 260
T39) Red Faber: 254
T39) Jack Morris: 254
All-Time Wins by a Mets Pitcher


1) Tom Seaver: 198
2) Dwight Gooden: 157
3) Jerry Koosman: 140
4) Ron Darling: 99
5) Sid Fernandez: 98
6) Al Leiter: 95
7) Jon Matlack: 82
8) David Cone: 81
9) Bobby Jones: 74
T10) Craig Swan: 59
T10) Rick Reed: 59
=blue]Steve Trachsel Projected to End of Season: 51.05
T12) Bob Ojeda: 51
T12) Steve Trachsel: 51
=orange]Steve Trachsel at Start of Season: 50
14) John Franco: 48
T15) Tug McGraw: 47
T15) Jesse Orosco: 47
17) Al Jackson: 43
T18) Gary Gentry: 41
T18) Pat Zachry: 41
T20) Jack Fisher: 38
T20) Ed Lynch: 38
T20) Frank Viola: 38
23) Rick Aguilera: 37
24) Jim McAndrew: 36
25) Roger McDowell: 33
=blue]Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 32.62
26) Tom Glavine: 32
27) Ray Sadecki: 30
T28) Nolan Ryan: 29
T28) Bret Saberhagen: 29
30) Pete Falcone: 26
T31) Nino Espinosa: 25
T31) Neil Allen: 25
T31) Dennis Cook: 25
T34) Danny Frisella: 24
T34) Skip Lockwood: 24
T34) Terry Leach: 24
T34) Dave Mlicki: 24
T38) Mark Clark: 22
T38) Turk Wendell: 22
=blue]Jae Weong Seo: 21.36
T40) Ron Taylor: 21
T40) Jae Weong Seo: 21
42) Don Cardwell: 20
=orange]Tom Glavine at Start of Season: 20
T43) Walt Terrell: 19
T43) Glendon Rusch: 19

Edgy DC
Sep 24 2005 09:40 PM

All-Time Mets RBI in a Single Season

1) Mike Piazza, 1999: 124
2) Robin Ventura, 1999: 120
T3) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 117
T3) Howard Johnson, 1991: 117
5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 113
6) Todd Hundley, 1996: 112
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 108
T7) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 108
T9) Rusty Staub, 1975: 105
T9) Gary Carter, 1986: 105
11) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 104
12) John Olerud, 1997: 102
T13) Howard Johnson, 1989: 101
T13) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 101
T15) Eddie Murray, 1993: 100
T15) Gary Carter, 1985: 100
T17) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 99
T17) Howard Johnson, 1987: 99
T17) Dave Kingman, 1982: 99
20) Mike Piazza, 2002: 98
David Wright Projected Through End of Season: 97.8312
T21) Donn Clendenon, 1970: 97 RiP
T21) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 97
T23) Willie Montanez, 1978: 96
T23) John Olerud, 1999: 96
25) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 95
T26) Frank Thomas, 1962: 94
T26) Keith Hernandez, 1984: 94
T26) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 94
T26) Mike Piazza, 2001: 94
T30) John Olerud, 1998: 93
T30) Eddie Murray, 1992: 93
T30) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 93
T30) David Wright, 2005: 93
34) Keith Hernandez, 1985: 91
T35) Howard Johnson, 1990: 90
T35) George Foster, 1983: 90

Edgy DC
Sep 25 2005 08:39 PM

Piazza ties Joe Carter and Floyd starts appearing on the Met homerun list.

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 219.81
2) Mike Piazza: 219
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee: 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
16) Robin Ventura: 77
17) Rusty Staub: 75
Cliff Floyd Projected to End of Season: 69.44
18) Ron Swoboda: 69
T19) Lee Mazzilli: 68
T19) Cliff Floyd: 68
21) Jeff Kent: 67
22) John Olerud: 63
T23) Jim Hickman: 60
T23) Mookie Wilson: 60
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 707
4) Willie Mays: 660
=darkred]5) Sammy Sosa: 588
6) Frank Robinson: 586
7) Mark McGwire: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 569
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
29) Frank Thomas: 447
=darkred]30) Gary Sheffield: 446
31) Dave Kingman: 442
32) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]33) Juan Gonzalez: 434
T34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]T34) Manny Ramirez: 431
=darkred]36) Jim Thome: 430
=darkred]37) Alex Rodriguez: 427
38) Billy Williams: 426
39) Darrell Evans: 414
40) Duke Snider: 407
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 396.81
T44) Joe Carter: 396
T44) Mike Piazza: 396
46) Graig Nettles: 390
47) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378
56) Norm Cash 377
All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
2) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T3) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T3) Darryl Strawberry 1987: 39
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T10) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T10) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T10) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T14) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T14) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 33.44
16) Mike Piazza, 2002: 33
T17) Gary Carter, 1985: 32
T17) Robin Ventura, 1999: 32
T17) Cliff Floyd, 2005 to Date: 32
T20) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 30
T20) Todd Hundley, 1997: 30
T20) Mike Cameron, 2004: 30
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 29
T23) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 29
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 29
26) George Foster, 1983: 28
T27) Eddie Murray, 1993: 27
T27) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 27
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 27
T27) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 27
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 26
T31) Tommie Agee, 1969: 26
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1983: 26
T31) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 26
35) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 25
David Wright Projected to End of Season: 24.04
T36) Butch Huskey, 1997: 24
T36) Kevin McReynolds, 1990 24
T36) Howard Johnson, 1988: 24
T36) George Foster, 1984: 24
T36) Tommie Agee, 1970: 24
T36) Gary Carter, 1986: 24
T36) Robin Ventura, 2000: 24
T43) Mike Piazza, 1998: 23
T43) Howard Johnson, 1990: 23
T43) John Milner, 1973: 23
T43) David Wright, 2005 to Date: 23

Edgy DC
Sep 28 2005 01:08 PM

Mookie has been consigned to history. Perhaps Reyes gets permission to run like crazy after Cedeño, now that the Mets have been eliminated.

All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Season

1) Roger Cedeño, 1999: 66
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 60.87
2) Jose Reyes, 2005: 59
2) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 58
4) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 54
5) Lance Johnson, 1996: 50
6) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 46
7) Frank Taveras: 1979: 42
T8) Howard Johnson, 1989: 41
T8) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 41
10) Vince Coleman, 1993: 38
T11) Vince Coleman, 1991: 37
T11) Rickey Henderson, 1999: 37
13) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 36
T14) Howard Johnson, 1990: 34
T14) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 34
16) Lenny Randle, 1977: 33
T17) Howard Johnson, 1987: 32
T17) Frank Taveras, 1980: 32
T17) Wally Backman, 1984: 32
T20) Juan Samuel, 1989: 31
T20) Tommie Agee, 1970: 31
T20) Lenny Dykstra, 1986: 31
T23) Howard Johnson, 1991: 30
T23) Lenny Dykstra, 1988: 30
T23) Wally Backman, 1985: 30
26) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 29
T27) Bud Harrelson, 1971: 28
T27) Tommie Agee, 1971: 28
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 28
T30) Lenny Dykstra, 1987: 27
T30) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 27
T32) Gregg Jefferies, 1991: 26
T32) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 26
T34) John Stearns, 1978: 25
T34) Mookie Wilson, 1986: 25
T34) Roger Cedeño, 2002: 25
T37) Vince Coleman, 1992: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1981: 24
T37) Mookie Wilson, 1985: 24
T40) Howard Johnson, 1988: 23
T40) Steve Henderson, 1980: 23
T40) Bud Harrelson, 1970: 23
T40) Cleon Jones, 1968: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1992: 22
T44) Joe Foy, 1970 22
T44) Lee Mazzilli, 1977: 22
T44) Mike Cameron, 2004: 22
T48) Brett Butler, 1995: 21
T48) Gregg Jefferies, 1989: 21
T48) Mookie Wilson, 1987: 21
T48) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 21
All-Time Mets Stolen Bases in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 281
2) Howard Johnson: 202
3) Darryl Strawberry: 191
4) Lee Mazzilli: 152
5) Lenny Dykstra: 116
6) Bud Harrelson: 115
7) Wally Backman: 106
8) Roger Cedeño: 105
9) Vince Coleman: 99
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 92.87
10) Tommie Agee: 92
T11) Cleon Jones: 91
T11) John Stearns: 91
T11) Jose Reyes: 91
14) Frank Taveras: 90
15) Kevin McReynolds: 67
16) Lance Johnson: 65
17) Gregg Jefferies: 63
18) Steve Henderson: 55
19) Lenny Randle: 47
T20) Daryl Boston: 45
T20) Edgardo Alfonzo: 45
22) Keith Miller: 44
23) Rickey Henderson: 42
24) Bob Bailor: 40
25) Joel Youngblood: 39
26) Mike Cameron: 35
27) Wayne Garrett: 33
Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 32
T28) Hubie Brooks: 31
T28) Juan Samuel: 31
T30) Dave Kingman: 29
T30) Bernard Gilkey: 29
32) Rey Ordóñez: 28
Cliff Floyd Projected to End of Season: 26.38
T33) Ken Boswell: 26
T33) Cliff Floyd: 26
T35) Carl Everett: 25
T35) Brian McRae: 25
David Wright Projected to End of Season: 23.54
37) Brian Giles: 23
T37) David Wright: 23
T39) Joe Christopher: 22
T39) Joe Foy: 22
T39) Joe McEwing: 22
T39) Roberto Alomar: 22
=orange]Mike Cameron at Start of Season: 22

Edgy DC
Sep 28 2005 01:13 PM

This table really might've blown your mind had Jose Reyes gone for and attained those two other triples he had a shot at last night. For now, the fun part is the footrace between Reyes and Ed Kranepool.

All-Time Met Triples in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 21
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 17.54
2) Jose Reyes, 2005: 17
3) Mookie Wilson, 1984: 10
T4) Charlie Neal, 1962: 9
T4) Steve Henderson, 1978: 9
T4) Frank Taveras, 1979: 9
T4) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 9

All-Time Met Triples in a Career

1) Mookie Wilson: 62
2) Bud Harrelson: 45
3) Cleon Jones: 33
4) Steve Henderson: 31
5) Darryl Strawberry: 30
6) Lance Johnson: 27
7) Doug Flynn: 26
8) Ed Kranepool: 25
Jose Reyes Projected to End of Season: 23.54
T9) Jose Reyes: 23
T9) Lee Mazzilli: 22
T11) Ron Swoboda: 20
T11) Wayne Garrett: 20
...Jose Reyes at Start of Season: 6

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 28 2005 01:39 PM

Here's another category where Jose is nearing the Top Ten. (And David Wright isn't too far behind.)

Players with more than 90 Runs in a season

1. 1999 Edgardo Alfonzo 123
2. 1996 Lance Johnson 117
3. 2000 Edgardo Alfonzo 109
4. 1996 Bernard Gilkey 108
4. 1991 Howard Johnson 108
4. 1987 Darryl Strawberry 108
7. 1970 Tommie Agee 107
7. 1999 John Olerud 107
9. 1989 Howard Johnson 104
10. 1988 Darryl Strawberry 101
11. 1999 Mike Piazza 100
12. 2005 Jose Reyes 99
13. 1969 Tommie Agee 97
14. 1990 Gregg Jefferies 96
15. 1998 Edgardo Alfonzo 94
15. 1986 Keith Hernandez 94
17. 1987 Howard Johnson 93
17. 1975 Rusty Staub 93
17. 2005 David Wright 93
20. 1990 Darryl Strawberry 92
20. 1969 Cleon Jones 92
22. 1998 John Olerud 91
22. 1983 Mookie Wilson 91
24. 1997 John Olerud 90
24. 1979 Joel Youngblood 90
24. 1982 Mookie Wilson 90
24. 1999 Roger Cedeño 90
24. 2000 Mike Piazza 90

Edgy DC
Sep 29 2005 08:07 AM

I missed last night's action, mercifully, but there was still some ladder climbing. Lee Mazzilli is passed on the all-time homerun list.

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 219.46
2) Mike Piazza: 219
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee: 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
16) Robin Ventura: 77
17) Rusty Staub: 75
Cliff Floyd Projected to End of Season: 69.84
T18) Ron Swoboda: 69
T18) Cliff Floyd: 69
20) Lee Mazzilli: 68
21) Jeff Kent: 67
22) John Olerud: 63
T23) Jim Hickman: 60
T23) Mookie Wilson: 60
All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
2) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T3) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T3) Darryl Strawberry 1987: 39
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T10) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T10) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T10) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T14) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T14) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 33.84
T16) Mike Piazza, 2002: 33
T16) Cliff Floyd, 2005 to Date: 33
T18) Gary Carter, 1985: 32
T18) Robin Ventura, 1999: 32
T20) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 30
T20) Todd Hundley, 1997: 30
T20) Mike Cameron, 2004: 30
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 29
T23) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 29
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 29
26) George Foster, 1983: 28
T27) Eddie Murray, 1993: 27
T27) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 27
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 27
T27) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 27
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 26
T31) Tommie Agee, 1969: 26
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1983: 26
T31) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 26
35) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 25
David Wright Projected to End of Season: 24.61
T36) Butch Huskey, 1997: 24
T36) Kevin McReynolds, 1990 24
T36) Howard Johnson, 1988: 24
T36) George Foster, 1984: 24
T36) Tommie Agee, 1970: 24
T36) Gary Carter, 1986: 24
T36) Robin Ventura, 2000: 24
T36) David Wright, 2005 to Date: 24
T44) Mike Piazza, 1998: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1990: 23
T44) John Milner, 1973: 23
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 708
4) Willie Mays: 660
=darkred]5) Sammy Sosa: 588
6) Frank Robinson: 586
7) Mark McGwire: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 569
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
=darkred]T29) Gary Sheffield: 448
=darkred]T29) Frank Thomas: 448
31) Dave Kingman: 442
32) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]33) Juan Gonzalez: 434
T34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]T34) Manny Ramirez: 431
=darkred]36) Jim Thome: 430
=darkred]37) Alex Rodriguez: 428
38) Billy Williams: 426
39) Darrell Evans: 414
40) Duke Snider: 407
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 396.46
T44) Joe Carter: 396
T44) Mike Piazza: 396
46) Graig Nettles: 390
47) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378
56) Norm Cash 377

Willets Point
Sep 29 2005 09:29 AM

Mets fans will be eagerly tuning into the last games of the season to see if Mike Piazza can hit that projected .46 of a homerun.

soupcan
Sep 29 2005 09:47 AM

I'd like to see Wright hit a three run jack this weekend and finish with 25 ding dongs, 100 ribbies and a .300 average.

rpackrat
Sep 29 2005 11:33 AM

]Mets fans will be eagerly tuning into the last games of the season to see if Mike Piazza can hit that projected .46 of a homerun.


Wouldn't .46 of a home run mean that he's out by about 4 feet trying to stretch a single into a double?

Willets Point
Sep 29 2005 11:37 AM

Actually he'd be out by nearly 14 and a half feet. Ouch!!

Edgy DC
Sep 29 2005 07:11 PM

Hey, Dale Murphy! Hearing footsteps?

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 220.36
2) Mike Piazza: 220
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee: 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
16) Robin Ventura: 77
17) Rusty Staub: 75
Cliff Floyd Projected to End of Season: 69.62
T18) Ron Swoboda: 69
T18) Cliff Floyd: 69
20) Lee Mazzilli: 68
21) Jeff Kent: 67
22) John Olerud: 63
T23) Jim Hickman: 60
T23) Mookie Wilson: 60
All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
2) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T3) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T3) Darryl Strawberry 1987: 39
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T10) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T10) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T10) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T14) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T14) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 33.62
T16) Mike Piazza, 2002: 33
T16) Cliff Floyd, 2005 to Date: 33
T18) Gary Carter, 1985: 32
T18) Robin Ventura, 1999: 32
T20) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 30
T20) Todd Hundley, 1997: 30
T20) Mike Cameron, 2004: 30
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 29
T23) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 29
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 29
26) George Foster, 1983: 28
T27) Eddie Murray, 1993: 27
T27) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 27
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 27
T27) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 27
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 26
T31) Tommie Agee, 1969: 26
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1983: 26
T31) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 26
David Wright Projected to End of Season: 25.47
T35) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 25
T35) David Wright, 2005 to Date: 25
T37) Butch Huskey, 1997: 24
T37) Kevin McReynolds, 1990 24
T37) Howard Johnson, 1988: 24
T37) George Foster, 1984: 24
T37) Tommie Agee, 1970: 24
T37) Gary Carter, 1986: 24
T37) Robin Ventura, 2000: 24
T44) Mike Piazza, 1998: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1990: 23
T44) John Milner, 1973: 23
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 708
4) Willie Mays: 660
=darkred]5) Sammy Sosa: 588
6) Frank Robinson: 586
7) Mark McGwire: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 569
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
=darkred]T29) Gary Sheffield: 448
=darkred]T29) Frank Thomas: 448
31) Dave Kingman: 442
32) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]33) Juan Gonzalez: 434
T34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]T34) Manny Ramirez: 431
=darkred]36) Jim Thome: 430
=darkred]37) Alex Rodriguez: 428
38) Billy Williams: 426
39) Darrell Evans: 414
40) Duke Snider: 407
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 397.36
T44) Joe Carter: 396
T44) Mike Piazza: 397
46) Graig Nettles: 390
47) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378
56) Norm Cash 377

Edgy DC
Sep 29 2005 07:12 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Sep 29 2005 07:17 PM

Hey, Dale Murphy! Hearing footsteps?

All-Time Met Homers in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 220.36
2) Mike Piazza: 220
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 201
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
11) John Milner: 94
12) Cleon Jones: 93
13) Gary Carter: 89
14) Tommie Agee: 82
15) Keith Hernandez: 80
16) Robin Ventura: 77
17) Rusty Staub: 75
Cliff Floyd Projected to End of Season: 69.62
T18) Ron Swoboda: 69
T18) Cliff Floyd: 69
20) Lee Mazzilli: 68
21) Jeff Kent: 67
22) John Olerud: 63
T23) Jim Hickman: 60
T23) Mookie Wilson: 60
All-Time Met Homers in a Single Season

1) Todd Hundley, 1996: 41
2) Mike Piazza, 1999: 40
T3) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 39
T3) Darryl Strawberry 1987: 39
T5) Howard Johnson, 1991: 38
T5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 38
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1982: 37
T7) Dave Kingman, 1976: 37
T10) Howard Johnson, 1989: 36
T10) Howard Johnson, 1987: 36
T10) Dave Kingman, 1975: 36
T10) Mike Piazza, 2001: 36
T14) Bobby Bonilla, 1993: 34
T14) Frank Thomas, 1962: 34
2005 Cliff Floyd Projected to Season's End: 33.62
T16) Mike Piazza, 2002: 33
T16) Cliff Floyd, 2005 to Date: 33
T18) Gary Carter, 1985: 32
T18) Robin Ventura, 1999: 32
T20) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 30
T20) Todd Hundley, 1997: 30
T20) Mike Cameron, 2004: 30
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1989: 29
T23) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 29
T23) Darryl Strawberry, 1985: 29
26) George Foster, 1983: 28
T27) Eddie Murray, 1993: 27
T27) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 27
T27) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 27
T27) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 27
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 26
T31) Tommie Agee, 1969: 26
T31) Darryl Strawberry, 1983: 26
T31) Mo Vaughn, 2002: 26
David Wright Projected to End of Season: 25.47
T35) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 25
T35) David Wright, 2005 to Date: 25
T37) Butch Huskey, 1997: 24
T37) Kevin McReynolds, 1990 24
T37) Howard Johnson, 1988: 24
T37) George Foster, 1984: 24
T37) Tommie Agee, 1970: 24
T37) Gary Carter, 1986: 24
T37) Robin Ventura, 2000: 24
T44) Mike Piazza, 1998: 23
T44) Howard Johnson, 1990: 23
T44) John Milner, 1973: 23
All-Time Homers by a Major Leaguer

1) Hank Aaron: 755
2) Babe Ruth: 714
=darkred]3) Barry Bonds: 708
4) Willie Mays: 660
=darkred]5) Sammy Sosa: 588
6) Frank Robinson: 586
7) Mark McGwire: 583
8) Harmon Killebrew: 573
=darkred]9) Rafael Palmeiro: 569
10) Reggie Jackson: 563
11) Mike Schmidt: 548
12) Mickey Mantle: 536
13) Jimmie Foxx: 534
T14) Willie McCovey: 521
T14) Ted Williams: 521
16) Ken Griffey: 518
T17) Ernie Banks: 512
T17) Eddie Mathews: 512
19) Mel Ott: 511
20) Eddie Murray: 504
T21) Lou Gehrig: 493
T21) Fred McGriff: 493
T23) Stan Musial: 475
T23) Willie Stargell: 475
25) Dave Winfield: 465
26) Jose Canseco: 462
27) Carl Yastrzemski: 452
=darkred]28) Jeff Bagwell: 449
=darkred]T29) Gary Sheffield: 448
=darkred]T29) Frank Thomas: 448
31) Dave Kingman: 442
32) Andre Dawson: 438
=darkred]33) Juan Gonzalez: 434
T34) Cal Ripken: 431
=darkred]T34) Manny Ramirez: 431
=darkred]36) Jim Thome: 430
=darkred]37) Alex Rodriguez: 428
38) Billy Williams: 426
39) Darrell Evans: 414
40) Duke Snider: 407
T41) Andres Galarraga: 399
T41) Al Kaline: 399
43) Dale Murphy: 398
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 397.36
44) Mike Piazza: 397
45) Joe Carter: 396
46) Graig Nettles: 390
47) Johnny Bench: 389
48) Dwight Evans: 385
49) Harold Baines: 384
T50) Frank Howard: 382
T50) Jim Rice: 382
52) Albert Belle: 381
T53) Orlando Cepeda: 379
T53) Tony Perez: 379
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 378
55) Matt Williams 378
56) Norm Cash 377

Valadius
Sep 29 2005 07:14 PM

You might want to move Mike above Joe Carter.

Edgy DC
Sep 29 2005 07:17 PM

Of course. Thanks.

Benjamin Grimm
Sep 29 2005 07:22 PM

Meanwhile, Jose Reyes has set a new club record for most at bats in a season. His 683rd at bat came in tonight's game and broke Lance Johnson's record of 682 set in 1996.

Valadius
Sep 29 2005 07:28 PM

One of Lance's '96 records has fallen. Egads.

Edgy DC
Sep 29 2005 07:44 PM

Cliff chasing... Buddy Harrelson?

All-Time Mets RBI in a Single Season

1) Mike Piazza, 1999: 124
2) Robin Ventura, 1999: 120
T3) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 117
T3) Howard Johnson, 1991: 117
5) Mike Piazza, 2000: 113
6) Todd Hundley, 1996: 112
T7) Darryl Strawberry, 1990: 108
T7) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 108
T9) Rusty Staub, 1975: 105
T9) Gary Carter, 1986: 105
11) Darryl Strawberry, 1987: 104
12) John Olerud, 1997: 102
David Wright Projected Through End of Season: 101.8868
T13) Howard Johnson, 1989: 101
T13) Darryl Strawberry, 1988: 101
T15) Eddie Murray, 1993: 100
T15) Gary Carter, 1985: 100
T15) David Wright, 2005: 100
T18) Kevin McReynolds, 1988: 99
T18) Howard Johnson, 1987: 99
T18) Dave Kingman, 1982: 99
T21) Mike Piazza, 2002: 98
T21) Donn Clendenon, 1970: 97 =darkred]RiP
T21) Darryl Strawberry, 1984: 97
T21) Cliff Floyd, 2005: 97
T25) Willie Montanez, 1978: 96
T25) John Olerud, 1999: 96
27) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 95
T28) Frank Thomas, 1962: 94
T28) Keith Hernandez, 1984: 94
T28) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 94
T28) Mike Piazza, 2001: 94
T32) John Olerud, 1998: 93
T32) Eddie Murray, 1992: 93
T32) Darryl Strawberry, 1986: 93
35) Keith Hernandez, 1985: 91
T36) Howard Johnson, 1990: 90
T36) George Foster, 1983: 90
All-Time Mets RBI in a Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 733
Mike Piazza, Projected to End of Season: 657.19
2) Mike Piazza: 656
3) Howard Johnson: 629
4) Ed Kranepool: 614
=orange]Mike Piazza, at Start of Season: 593
5) Edgardo Alfonzo: 538
6) Cleon Jones: 521
7) Keith Hernandez: 468
8) Kevin McReynolds: 456
9) Rusty Staub: 399
10) Todd Hundley: 397
11) Dave Kingman: 389
12) George Foster: 361
13) Jerry Grote: 357
14) Lee Mazzilli: 353
15) Gary Carter: 349
16) Mookie Wilson: 342
17) John Milner: 338
18) John Stearns: 312
19) Ron Swoboda: 304
T20) Wayne Garrett: 295
T20) Bobby Bonilla: 295
22) John Olerud: 291
23) Hubie Brooks: 269
24) Jeff Kent: 267
T25) Tommie Agee: 265
T25) Robin Ventura: 265
27) Rey Ordóñez: 260
28) Dave Magadan: 254
29) Bud Harrelson: 242
Cliff Floyd Projected to End of Season: 229.83
30) Cliff Floyd: 228
31) Steve Henderson: 227
32) Bernard Gilkey: 223
33) Joel Youngblood: 216
34) Butch Huskey: 214
35) Jim Hickman: 210
36) Gregg Jefferies: 205

Valadius
Sep 29 2005 07:53 PM

Glavine is now tied with Frisella at 296 Met K's.

soupcan
Sep 30 2005 07:09 AM

soupcan wrote:
I'd like to see Wright hit a three run jack this weekend and finish with 25 ding dongs, 100 ribbies and a .300 average.



.307, 26, 100.

I love this kid.

Edgy DC
Sep 30 2005 07:39 AM

Kind of pointless to project to the end of the season, when every starting pitcher but Benson, Seo, and Zambrano are finished, but I will anyway.

It would be good to get a last good start out of Benson beofre the season ends.

All-Time Wins by a Major League Pitcher
(Active Non-Met Players in Red)

1) Cy Young: 511
2) Walter Johnson: 417
T3) Pete Alexander: 373
T3) Christy Mathewson: 373
5) Pud Galvin: 364
6) Warren Spahn: 363
7) Kid Nichols: 361
8) Tim Keefe: 342
9) Roger Clemens: 340
10) Steve Carlton: 329
11) John Clarkson: 328
12) Eddie Plank: 326
T13) Nolan Ryan: 324
T13) Don Sutton: 324
15) Phil Niekro: 318
16) Greg Maddux: 318
17) Gaylord Perry: 314
18) Tom Seaver: 311
19) Charley Radbourn: 309
20) Mickey Welch: 307
T21) Lefty Grove: 300
T21) Early Wynn: 300
23) Bobby Mathews: 297
24) Tommy John: 288
25) Bert Blyleven: 287
26) Robin Roberts: 286
T27) Fergie Jenkins: 284
T27) Tony Mullane: 284
29) Jim Kaat: 283
=blue]Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 275.25
30) Tom Glavine: 275
31) Red Ruffing: 273
32) Burleigh Grimes: 270
33) Jim Palmer: 268
T34) Bob Feller: 266
T34) Eppa Rixey: 266
36) Jim McCormick: 265
37) Gus Weyhing: 264
=orange]Tom Glavine at Start of Season: 262
38)Ted Lyons: 260
T39) Red Faber: 254
T39) Jack Morris: 254
All-Time Wins by a Mets Pitcher


1) Tom Seaver: 198
2) Dwight Gooden: 157
3) Jerry Koosman: 140
4) Ron Darling: 99
5) Sid Fernandez: 98
6) Al Leiter: 95
7) Jon Matlack: 82
8) David Cone: 81
9) Bobby Jones: 74
T10) Craig Swan: 59
T10) Rick Reed: 59
=blue]Steve Trachsel Projected to End of Season: 51.02
T12) Bob Ojeda: 51
T12) Steve Trachsel: 51
=orange]Steve Trachsel at Start of Season: 50
14) John Franco: 48
T15) Tug McGraw: 47
T15) Jesse Orosco: 47
17) Al Jackson: 43
T18) Gary Gentry: 41
T18) Pat Zachry: 41
T20) Jack Fisher: 38
T20) Ed Lynch: 38
T20) Frank Viola: 38
23) Rick Aguilera: 37
24) Jim McAndrew: 36
=blue]Tom Glavine Projected to End of Season: 33.25
T25) Roger McDowell: 33
T25) Tom Glavine: 33
27) Ray Sadecki: 30
T28) Nolan Ryan: 29
T28) Bret Saberhagen: 29
30) Pete Falcone: 26
T31) Nino Espinosa: 25
T31) Neil Allen: 25
T31) Dennis Cook: 25
T34) Danny Frisella: 24
T34) Skip Lockwood: 24
T34) Terry Leach: 24
T34) Dave Mlicki: 24
T38) Mark Clark: 22
T38) Turk Wendell: 22
=blue]Jae Weong Seo: 21.13
T40) Ron Taylor: 21
T40) Jae Weong Seo: 21
42) Don Cardwell: 20
=orange]Tom Glavine at Start of Season: 20
T43) Walt Terrell: 19
T43) Glendon Rusch: 19

Edgy DC
Sep 30 2005 12:59 PM

The next hit makes Piazza a top-five Met hitman.
All-Time Met Hits in a Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 1418
2) Cleon Jones: 1188
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 1136
4) Mookie Wilson: 1112
Mike Piazza Projected to End of Season: 1029.89
5) Bud Harrelson: 1029
6) Mike Piazza: 1028
7) Darryl Strawberry: 1025
8) Howard Johnson: 997
9) Jerry Grote: 994
10) Keith Hernandez: 939
=orange]Mike Piazza at Start of Season: 928
11) Lee Mazzilli: 796
12) Kevin McReynolds: 791
13) Felix Millan: 743
14) Rey Ordóñez: 720
15) Rusty Staub: 709
16) John Stearns: 695
17) Wally Backman: 670
18) Wayne Garrett: 667
19) Hubie Brooks: 640
20) Tommie Agee: 632
21) Todd Hundley: 612
22) Dave Magadan: 610
23) George Foster: 602
24) John Milner: 586
25) Gary Carter: 542
26) Ron Swoboda: 536
27) Ken Boswell: 528
28) John Olerud: 524
29) Joel Youngblood: 519
30) Steve Henderson: 516
All-Time Met Hits in a Season

1) Lance Johnson, 1996: 227
2) John Olerud, 1998: 197
T3) Felix Millan, 1975: 191
T3) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1999: 191
Jose Reyes, Projected to End of Season: 190.53
5) Jose Reyes, 2005: 187
6) Felix Millan, 1973: 185
7) Keith Hernandez, 1985: 183
9) Tommie Agee, 1970: 182
T9) Bernard Gilkey, 1996: 181
T9) Lee Mazzilli, 1979: 181
11) Mookie Wilson, 1982: 178
David Wright, Projected to End of Season: 177.28
12) Robin Ventura, 1999: 177
T13) Mookie Wilson, 1983: 176
T13) Edgardo Alfonzo, 2000: 176
T15) Eddie Murray, 1993: 174
T15) Tommy Davis, 1967: 174
T15) David Wright, 2005: 174
18) John Olerud, 1999: 173
T19) Gregg Jefferies, 1990: 171
T19) Keith Hernandez, 1986: 171
T19) Keith Hernandez, 1984: 171
22) Keith Hernandez, 1987: 170
23) Frank Taveras, 1979: 167
T24) Howard Johnson, 1989: 164
T24) Cleon Jones, 1969: 164
T26) Edgardo Alfonzo, 1997: 163
T26) Kevin McReynolds, 1987: 163
T26) Joe Christopher, 1964: 163
T26) Rusty Staub, 1973: 163
T30) Rusty Staub, 1975: 162
T30) Lee Mazzilli, 1980: 162

Edgy DC
Sep 30 2005 11:11 PM

Homers in a Season by a Met Rookie

RankOverall
Rank
SeasonPlayer#
1)(T31)1983Darryl Strawberry26
2)(T65)1965Ron Swoboda19
T3)(T80)1972John Milner17
T3)(T80)2000Jay Payton17
5)(T103)1996Butch Huskey15
T6)(T116)1999Benny Agbayani14
T6)(T116)2004David Wright14
T8)(T129)1962Jim Hickman13
T8)(T129)1993Jeromy Burnitz13
T8)(T129)2004EricValent13
T11)(T142)1995Carl Everett12
T11)(T142)1989Gregg Jefferies12
T11)(T142)1977Steve Henderson12
T11)(T142)1986Kevin Mitchell12
T15)(T156)1993Ryan Thompson11
T15)(T156)2003Ty Wigginton11
T15)(T156)2003Jason Phillips11
T15)(T156)2005Victor Diaz11
T19)(T177)1963Tim Harkness10
T19)(T177)2001Tsuyoshi Shinjo10
T19)(T177)2005Mike Jacobs10

Edgy DC
Oct 01 2005 08:48 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 01 2005 09:00 PM

Tonight's update starts with Robocop

Career Saves, All-Time Major League Leaders
(Pitcher Active in 2005 in Red)

1) Lee Smith: 478
2) Trevor Hoffman: 435
3) John Franco: 424
4) Dennis Eckersley: 390
5) Mariano Rivera: 379
6) Jeff Reardon: 367
7) Randy Myers: 347
8) Rollie Fingers: 341
9) John Wetteland: 330
=blue]Roberto Hernandez at Start of Season: 324.0242
T10) Troy Percival: 324
T10) Roberto Hernandez: 324
=orange]Roberto Hernandez at Start of Season: 320
12) Jose Mesa: 319
13) Rick Aguilera: 318
14) Robb Nen: 314
15) Tom Henke: 311
16) Rich Gossage: 310
17) Jeff Montgomery: 304
18) Doug Jones: 303
19) Bruce Sutter: 300
20) Rod Beck: 286
23) Billy Wagner: 283
21) Todd Worrell: 256
22) Dave Righetti: 252
24) Armando Benitez: 263
25) Dan Quisenberry: 244
Career Saves, Active (in 2005) Major League Leaders


1) Trevor Hoffman: 435
2) John Franco: 424
3) Mariano Rivera: 379
=blue]Roberto Hernandez Projected to End of Year: 324.0242
T4) Troy Percival: 324
T4) Roberto Hernandez: 324
=orange]Roberto Hernandez at Start of Year: 320
6) Jose Mesa: 292
7) Billy Wagner: 283
8) Armando Benitez: 263
9) Ugueth Urbina: 237
10) Todd Jones: 225
11) Jason Isringhausen:215
12) Bob Wickman: 214
13) Keith Foulke: 190
14) Danny Graves: 182
15) Billy Koch: 163
16) Eddie Guardado: 170
17) Eric Gagne: 160
17) John Smoltz: 154
18) Mike Jackson: 142
19) Mike Timlin: 130
20) Antonio Alfonseca: 121
T22) Ricky Bottalico: 116
T22) Tom Gordon: 116
24) Jose Jimenez: 110
25) Matt Mantei: 93 R

Valadius
Oct 01 2005 08:53 PM

Why is it projecting Berto to lose saves?

Edgy DC
Oct 01 2005 09:00 PM

An error on my part, now fixed.

Edgy DC
Oct 01 2005 09:14 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 01 2005 09:28 PM

MLB Stolen Base Leaders, 2005

RankPlayerTotalTodayGames Left
T1)Figgins6011
T1)Reyes6011
3)Posednik5901
4)Pierre5701+

cooby
Oct 01 2005 09:18 PM

Jose could have a real big honking day tomorrow and still catch Cedeno.
Passing him could be tough though

Valadius
Oct 02 2005 03:05 PM

Now we can do rankings without projections! Hooray!

Edgy DC
Oct 02 2005 04:00 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 02 2005 05:33 PM

Dissing the projections. Ouch.

All-Time Games in a Met Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 1853
2) Bud Harrelson: 1322
3) Jerry Grote: 1235
4) Cleon Jones: 1201
5) Howard Johnson: 1154
6) Mookie Wilson: 1116
7) Darryl Strawberry: 1109
8) Edgardo Alfonzo: 1086
9) Lee Mazzilli: 979
10) Mike Piazza: 972
All-Time At-Bats in a Met Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 5436
2) Bud Harrelson: 4390
3) Cleon Jones: 4223
4) Mookie Wilson: 4027
5) Howard Johnson: 3968
6) Darryl Strawberry: 3903
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 3897
8) Jerry Grote: 3881
9) Mike Piazza: 3478
10) Keith Hernandez: 3167
All-Time Runs in a Met Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 662
2) Howard Johnson: 627
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 614
4) Mookie Wilson: 592
5) Cleon Jones: 563
6) Ed Kranepool: 536
7) Mike Piazza: 532
8) Bud Harrelson: 490
9) Keith Hernandez: 455
10) Kevin McReynolds: 405
All-Time Hits in a Met Career

1) Ed Kranepool: 1418
2) Cleon Jones: 1188
3) Edgardo Alfonzo: 1136
4) Mookie Wilson: 1112
5) Bud Harrelson: 1029
6) Mike Piazza: 1028
7) Darryl Strawberry: 1025
8) Howard Johnson: 997
9) Jerry Grote: 994
10) Keith Hernandez: 939
All-Time Doubles in a Met Career

1) Ed Kranepool 225
2) Howard Johnson 214
3) Edgardo Alfonzo 212
4) Mike Piazza 193
5) Darryl Strawberry 187
6) Cleon Jones 182
7) Mookie Wilson 170
8) Keith Hernandez 159
9) Kevin McReynolds 153
10) John Stearns 152
All-Time Homeruns in a Met Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 252
2). Mike Piazza: 220
3) Howard Johnson: 192
4) Dave Kingman: 154
5) Todd Hundley: 124
6) Kevin McReynolds: 122
7) Edgardo Alfonzo: 120
8) Ed Kranepool: 118
9) George Foster: 99
10) Bobby Bonilla: 95
All-Time Runs Batted-In in a Met Career

1) Darryl Strawberry: 733
2) Mike Piazza: 655
3) Howard Johnson: 629
4) Ed Kranepool: 614
5) Edgardo Alfonzo: 538
6) Cleon Jones: 521
7) Keith Hernandez: 468
8) Kevin McReynolds: 456
9) Rusty Staub: 399
10) Todd Hundley: 397
All-Time Walks in a Met Career

1) Darryl Strawberry 580
2) Bud Harrelson 573
3) Howard Johnson 556
4) Wayne Garrett 482
5) Keith Hernandez 471
6) Edgardo Alfonzo 458
7) Ed Kranepool 454
8) Lee Mazzilli 438
9) Mike Piazza 424
10) Jerry Grote 363
All-Time Total Bases in a Met Career

1) Ed Kranepool 2047
2) Darryl Strawberry 2028
3) Mike Piazza 1885
4) Howard Johnson 1823
5) Edgardo Alfonzo 1736
6) Cleon Jones 1715
7) Mookie Wilson 1586
8) Keith Hernandez 1358
9) Kevin McReynolds 1338
10) Jerry Grote 1278
All-Time Intentional Walks in a Met Career
1) Darryl Strawberry 108
2). Howard Johnson 101
3) Ed Kranepool 89
4) Mike Piazza: 76
5) Jerry Grote 70
6) Rey Ordóñez 64
7) Keith Hernandez 59
8) Rusty Staub 56
9) Todd Hundley 51
10) Cleon Jones 42

duan
Oct 02 2005 04:40 PM

Sal would call me an idiot, but I want Piazza back. A 3 headed catching 1b, ph troika of Castro, Jacobs and Piazza would be nice if there's no hope of a Delgado type signing on the FA market.

Valadius
Oct 02 2005 05:58 PM

I'm not dissing them, it's just that I haven't been here for the off-season yet, where such things exist.

metsmarathon
Oct 02 2005 07:46 PM

well, we could always project for next year...

Edgy DC
Oct 02 2005 07:48 PM

All Time Mets Batting Average
(More Than 1000 At-Bats)


1) John Olerud (1662 AB): .315
2) Keith Hernandez (3164): .297
3) Mike Piazza (3479): .296
4) Dave Magadan (2088): .2921
5) Edgardo Alfonzo (3897): .2915
6) Steve Henderson (1800): .287
7) Wally Backman (2369): .283
8) Ron Hunt (1683): .28164
9) Jose Vizcaino (1282): .28159
10) Cleon Jones (4223): .281
All Time Mets On-Base Percentage
(More Than 1000 At-Bats)


1) John Olerud (1662 AB): .425
2) Dave Magadan (2088): .391
3) Keith Hernandez (3164): .387
4) Mike Piazza (3479): .373
5) Edgardo Alfonzo (3897): .367
6) Cliff Floyd (1307): .362
7) Steve Henderson (1800): .360
8) Robin Ventura (1513): .360
9) Darryl Strawberry (3903): .359
10) Rusty Staub (2571): .358
All Time Mets Slugging Percentage
(More Than 1000 At-Bats)



1) Mike Piazza (3475 AB): .542
2) Darryl Strawberry (3903): .520
3) John Olerud (1662): .501
4) Bobby Bonilla (1779): .495
5) Cliff Floyd (1307): .494
6) Robin Ventura (1513): .468
7) Bernard Gilkey (1353): .461
8) Kevin McReynolds (2910): .460
9) Howard Johnson (3968): .459
10) Dave Kingman (2323): .453
All Time Mets On-Base Percentage Plus
Slugging Percentage
(More Than 1000 At-Bats)


1) John Olerud (1662 AB): .926
2) Mike Piazza (3478): .915
3) Darryl Strawberry (3903): .878
4) Cliff Floyd (1307): .856
5) Bobby Bonilla (1779): .851
6) Robin Ventura (1513): .828
7) Bernard Gilkey (1353): .818
8) Keith Hernandez (3164): .816
9) Edgardo Alfonzo (3897): .812
10) Howard Johnson (3968): .801

Nymr83
Oct 02 2005 08:22 PM

Valadius wrote:
I'm not dissing them, it's just that I haven't been here for the off-season yet, where such things exist.


the same posts will be repeated every few days for 6 months...offseasons suck.

Valadius
Oct 02 2005 08:24 PM

And your final 2005 New York Mets team leaders are:

BATTING

Batting Average (Full-Season) - David Wright, .306 (T-8th NL)

Home Runs - Cliff Floyd, 34 (8th NL)

Runs Batted In - David Wright, 102 (T-10th NL)

Base Hits - Jose Reyes, 190 (5th NL)

At-Bats - Jose Reyes, 696 (1st NL)

Games Played - Jose Reyes, 161 (T-5th NL)

Runs Scored - Jose Reyes & David Wright, 99 (T-11th NL)

Doubles - David Wright, 42 (T-7th NL)

Triples - Jose Reyes, 17 (1st NL)

Total Bases - David Wright, 301 (T-7th NL)

Walks - David Wright, 72 (T-19th NL)

Strikeouts - David Wright, 113 (16th NL)

Stolen Bases - Jose Reyes, 60 (1st NL)

Caught Stealing - Jose Reyes, 15 (2nd NL)

Stolen Base Percentage - Jose Reyes, 80% (5th NL)

On-Base Percentage - David Wright, .388 (T-12th NL)

Slugging Percentage - David Wright, .523 (16th NL)

Sacrifice Flies - Carlos Beltran, 6 (T-16th NL)

Sacrifice Hits - Miguel Cairo, 12 (T-7th NL)

Hit By Pitch - Cliff Floyd, 11 (T-13th NL)

Intentional Walks - Cliff Floyd, 13 (T-8th NL)

Grounded Into Double Play - David Wright, 16 (T-18th NL)

Plate Appearances - Jose Reyes, 733 (1st NL)

Number of Pitches Seen - Jose Reyes, 2,660 (12th NL)

Extra-Base Hits - David Wright, 70 (10th NL)

On-Base Plus Slugging - David Wright, .912 (15th NL)

PITCHING

Wins - Pedro Martinez, 15 (T-9th NL)

Losses - Tom Glavine, 13 (T-11th NL)

Winning Percentage - Pedro Martinez, .652 (T-9th NL)

Earned Run Average (Starting Pitcher) - Pedro Martinez, 2.82 (4th NL)

Games Pitched - Roberto Hernandez, 67 (T-27th NL)

Games Started - Tom Glavine, 33 (T-13th NL)

Complete Games - Pedro Martinez, 4 (T-3rd NL)

Shutouts - Tom Glavine, Aaron Heilman, Pedro Martinez, 1 (T-8th NL)

Saves - Braden Looper, 28 (10th NL)

Save Opportunities - Braden Looper, 36 (8th NL)

Innings Pitched - Pedro Martinez, 217 (T-15th NL)

Strikeouts - Pedro Martinez, 208 (T-3rd NL)

Walks+Hits/Innings Pitched - Pedro Martinez, 0.95 (1st NL)

Balks - Victor Zambrano, 2 (T-6th NL)

Wild Pitches - Victor Zambrano, 8 (T-8th NL)

Hits Allowed - Tom Glavine, 227 (T-7th NL)

Walks Allowed - Victor Zambrano, 77 (9th NL)

Home Runs Allowed - Kris Benson, 24 (T-18th NL)

Hit By Pitch - Victor Zambrano, 15 (T-2nd NL)

Pick-offs - Kaz Ishii, 3 (T-9th NL)

Stolen Bases Allowed - Victor Zambrano, 25 (T-4th NL)

Runners Caught Stealing - Tom Glavine, 5 (T-29th NL)

Intentional Walks - Kris Benson & Tom Glavine, 5 (T-35th NL)

Batting Average Against - Pedro Martinez, .204 (2nd NL)

On-Base Against - Pedro Martinez, .252 (1st NL)

Number of Pitches Thrown - Tom Glavine, 3,270 (18th NL)

Holds - Roberto Hernandez, 18 (T-11th NL)

Games Finished - Braden Looper, 54 (T-7th NL)

Strikeouts-to-Walks - Pedro Martinez, 4.16 (3rd NL)

Strikeouts Per Nine Innings - Pedro Martinez, 8.63 (T-4th NL)

Walks Per Nine Innings - Pedro Martinez, 1.95 (T-9th NL)

Hits Per Nine Innings - Pedro Martinez, 6.59 (2nd NL)

Valadius
Oct 02 2005 09:19 PM

That took me perhaps two-to-three hours of research.

Now to write a research paper due tomorrow at 8:00 in the morning...

Edgy DC
Oct 02 2005 10:27 PM

Looking at that OpS chart, just so you know, Jose Reyes is approxiamately 33rd all-time for the Mets. David Wright, if had 1000 at-bats to qualify, would be third.

Third.

SI Metman
Oct 02 2005 11:01 PM

Looking back at Edgy's chart for rookie homers, I believe Jake will still have his rookie eligibility next season. Perhaps he makes it twice on that list...

Valadius
Oct 02 2005 11:08 PM

He had only 100 at-bats this season.

ROY '06?

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 03 2005 05:35 AM

Valadius wrote:
That took me perhaps two-to-three hours of research.


Thanks.

Frayed Knot
Oct 03 2005 08:57 AM

Team Record - Tied for 5th in NL (83-79)

RS/RA Differential = 5th best (+74) behind Cards (+171), Atlanta (+95), Houston (+84), Philly (+81)

Pythag Proj Record = 89-74, the -6 is the biggest gap in the league (Pitt = -5.4)
Arizona was the best; [u:fd133b19e2]+11.2[/u:fd133b19e2] !! and still managed to suck (77 wins)
and, as pathetic as Sandy Eggo was for a division winner, their 82 wins was 5.4 games better than projected as they were out-scored by 42 runs this year.

Elster88
Oct 03 2005 09:26 AM

SI Metman wrote:
Looking back at Edgy's chart for rookie homers, I believe Jake will still have his rookie eligibility next season. Perhaps he makes it twice on that list...


Yep, Gary confirmed it yesterday in the post-game.

Elster88
Oct 03 2005 09:31 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 03 2005 09:33 AM

All Time Met Hit Batsmen in a Single Season

1. 2002 Pedro Astacio 16
T-2. 2005 Victor Zambrano 15
T-2. 2001 Kevin Appier 15
T-2. 1971 Nolan Ryan 15
5. 1963 Al Jackson 12
T-6. 1999 Orel Hershiser 11 1999
T-6. 1999 Al Leiter 11
T-6. 2000 Al Leiter 11
T-6. 2000 Al Leiter 11
T-10. 1968 Don Cardwell 10
T-10. 1964 Jack Fisher 10
T-10. 1996 Paul Wilson 10

Valadius
Oct 03 2005 09:32 AM

One telling stat from my data table is Jose Reyes's pitches per plate appearance. 2660/733 = 3.63 pitches per plate appearance. That's just sad.

rpackrat
Oct 03 2005 12:45 PM

]One telling stat from my data table is Jose Reyes's pitches per plate appearance. 2660/733 = 3.63 pitches per plate appearance. That's just sad.


I don't see where it's all that sad. That ranks him 4th best on the team in that category (after Wright, Beltran, and Floyd), and 101st in the major leagues (47th in the NL). I'd certainly like to see him draw more walks, but the number of pitches he's seeing is not particularly low.

Edgy DC
Oct 03 2005 12:56 PM

Two stolen bases on the last day clinched the Major League lead for Chone Figgins. Jose Reyes --- wiped out by a first-pitch double-play grounder by Carlos Beltran in his only baserunning appearance on Sunday --- finished as the National League champ.

Frayed Knot
Oct 03 2005 12:58 PM

I agree and was just about to comment that that (pitches/AB) number didn't seem particularly low.
Jose's problem isn't the number of pitches he sees but often it's the ones he chooses to swing at. He really doesn't go after that many bad pitches (at least until he gets 2 strikes on him) it's just that he'll offer at anything over the plate rather than "zone" a pitch when the count or situation is in his favor.

The good (and bad) thing about being young is that he'll grow out of it.

Valadius
Oct 03 2005 02:19 PM

In terms of being a leadoff man, though, it's not particularly wonderful, and it would be nice to see his OBP rise to at least the .350 mark. He needs to draw more walks.

Frayed Knot
Oct 03 2005 02:31 PM

Sure, he's gotta get that OBP up.
It's just that "plate discipline" doesn't only mean seeing more pitches. Sometimes it means picking out a fat 2-0 pitch and smacking the snot out of it. His problem is that he often swings only because it's a strike (or near strike) and not because it's a particular strike that he can drive. Popping up less on pitches at the top of the strike zone and rolling over fewer grounders to 2nd off pitches on the corner will also help pump up that OBP.
Doing that kind of stuff can in turn get you pitched to more carefully and therfore more walks - although I doubt we're ever going to see him draw all that many.

Learning to bunt would help too.

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 03 2005 02:38 PM

I'd be inclined to think that Torre's been around the block enough to know that calling violations of the unwritten rules is weak but is doing what he can to support a team of paranoid billionaire crybabies like Gayrod (not to mention Steinbrenner), and that only the most easily duped, pandering media types (Suzie, Sterling, Kay) swallow it whole.

I don't use the 'hero' too often, but you, Buck Showalter, are the greatest hero in American history.

Edgy DC
Oct 18 2005 01:54 PM

Dickie's post above seems to be in the wrong thread, but I like it.

If the Final Schaefer Standings were our rankings,

> Danny Graves would be ranked as the 507th-greatest Met in history. Danny Graves, ladies and gentlemen.

> Manny Aybar would be ranked as the 494th-greatest Met in history, loosening Rich Folkers' brief stranglehold on the position.

> Dae-Sung Koo would ranked as the 471st-greatest met in history. Sorry, Steve Bieser fans. Really.

> Heath Bell could put his "419th-Greatest Met" plaque next to his "Greatest Met Ass Ever" plaque.

> Mike DeJean would be the 414th-greatest Met, besting his hero, Jerry Cram.

> Juan Padilla would be the 408th-greatest Met, a shade or two ahead of John Stephenson.

> Chris Woodward would be your 388th-greatest Met.

> Miguel Cairo would be your 359th-greatest Met. I told you he was better than Jerry Morales. I freaking told you.

> Mike Jacobs would debut as your 340th-greatest Met, the sandwich meat between the polysyllabic bread slices that are Chris Cannizzaro and Bob Aspromonte

> Kaz Ishii would be the 324th-greatest Met, ahead of Joe Foy, but stil 26 spots behind Hideo Nomo in the battle of Japanese starting pitchers sent to us by the Dodgers.

> Roberto Hernandez would be Met number 304, a slot behind Dock Ellis, but doing it apparently without the benefit of acid.

> Marlon Anderson would be the 290th-greatest Met, one slot behind Al Moran, whose name can be found in Marlon's, with six letter left over. In fact, the first seven letters of Marlon Anderson's name, "MARLON AN" are the exact letters needed to spell "AL MORAN." He's threatening to pass Moran, and do it while carrying all those extra letters.

> Ramon Castro would look to be the 275th greatest Met. I'd guess that's tops among one-year second-string catchers.

> Doug Mientkiewicz would be ranked 249th, between Hank Webb and Frank Lary, who used up a lot fewer letters on their uniforms.

> Aaron Heilman would be the 214th-greatest Met, passing Al Luplow.

> Victor Diaz, would be Met number 208, behind the prematurely ancient Roy McMillan.

> Victor Zambrano would be the 187th greatest Met, squeezed between B-boys Bob Bailor and Brett Butler.

> Braden Looper, target of hate, would be the 161st-greatest Met. No! Yes! When we do the real rankings, he'll likely come in higher.

> Kris Benson, as the 155th-greatest Met, would be just behind Willie Mays, and up 104 slots. He likely can't wait to brag to the wifey.

> Passing Mays, and your new 152nd greatest Met, is Carlos Beltran. Carlos, I've seen Willie Mays, and...

> Pedro Martinez would be your big debut, as the 132nd-greatest Met.

> Kaz Matsui would be Met Number 124. Deal with it.

> Jae Weong Seo, who has three silent e's in his name, would be almost out of the triple digits, as the 107th-greatest Met.

> Mike Cameron, despite two injury-plagued years, would be your 93rd-greatest Met.

> Jose Reyes, stealing bases and hearts, would be number 88, right behind Roger Cedeño, whom he seeks to supass in so many ways.

> David Wright, only a year and a third into his career, would already be the 84th greatest Met. Holycrapholycrapholycrapholycrap!

> Tom Glavine, plodding up that hill at his old-age pace, would be the 67th-Greatest Met, just ahead of fellow changer-upper Pat Zachry.

> Finally healthy, Cliff Floyd would be the 57th-greatest Met ever.

> Without much opportuntiy, Steve Trachsel was unable to crack the top 50. He's held at 51 by Joel Freakin' Youngblood.

> Lastly, of course, is Mike Piazza. This year, he seems to have passed John Franco and become the Fifth-Greatest Met Ever. Unlikely to rise or fall anythine soon, he could well be there for at least five more years before Wright or Reyes have a chance to catch him.

MFS62
Oct 29 2005 02:20 PM

In his book "Countdown to Super Bowl" about SB III, Dave Anderson wrote that when Jet coach Weeb Eubank saw his old quarterback Johnny Unitas enter the game for the Colts, he said to himself "No interceptions now, John".

That leads me to a question:
What emotions would you have if Mike Piazza were to hit his 400th career homer against the Mets?

Later

Nymr83
Oct 29 2005 03:11 PM

i'd be all in favor of it...provided the mets had a 5-0 lead and it was a solo-shot.

TheOldMole
Oct 30 2005 09:28 AM

What NYM said. And I gotta tell you, if it was a walk-off gamer, I'd still have mixed feelings. I'll always root for Mike.

Edgy DC
Nov 26 2005 09:44 PM

And, in what appear to be their peak rankings, Mike Jacobs leaves as the 340th-greatest all-time Met, Mike Cameron as the 93rd-greatest.

Add in the expected departure of Mike Piazza, and it looks like a bad off-season for Mikes.

Edgy DC
Dec 11 2005 03:29 PM

Homers, Active Players

1) Barry Bonds (40) 708
2) Sammy Sosa (36) 588
3) Rafael Palmeiro (40) 569
4) Ken Griffey (35) 536
T5) Jeff Bagwell (37) 449
T5) Gary Sheffield (36) 449
7) Frank Thomas (37) 448
8) Manny Ramirez (33) 435
9) Juan Gonzalez (35) 434
10) Jim Thome (34) 430
11) Alex Rodriguez (29) 429
12) Mike Piazza (36) 397
13) Larry Walker (38) 383
14) Carlos Delgado (33) 369
15) Tino Martinez (37) 339
T16) Jim Edmonds (35) 331
T16) Chipper Jones (33) 331
T16) Jeff Kent (37) 331
19) Luis Gonzalez (37) 316
20) Vinny Castilla (37) 315
Homers, All-Time

1) Hank Aaron+ 755
2) Babe Ruth+* 714
3) Barry Bonds (40) 708 ...

...49) Harold Baines 384
50) Larry Walker (38) 383
T51) Frank Howard 382
T51) Jim Rice 382
53) Albert Belle 381
T54) Orlando Cepeda 379
T54) Tony Perez 379
56) Matt Williams 378
57) Norm Cash 377
58) Carlton Fisk 376
59) Rocky Colavito 374
60) Gil Hodges 370
T61) Carlos Delgado (33) 369
T61) Ralph Kiner 369
63) Joe DiMaggio 361
64) Gary Gaetti 360
65) Johnny Mize 359