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Edgy DC
Aug 20 2005 02:34 PM

Article.

KC
Aug 20 2005 02:52 PM

What, may I ask, are you doing cruising outsports.com?

ScarletKnight41
Aug 20 2005 02:53 PM

He's a gay icon - what is he supposed to be doing?

nttawwt

Edgy DC
Aug 20 2005 02:54 PM

The Mets are ambiuously implicated. I'm all over that.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 20 2005 03:33 PM

I'd bet if it were up to the same guy who greenlighted Gay Night they'd just ask the retards with the banner to take it down.

Good for the Phils; bad for the Phils.

Sandgnat
Aug 20 2005 04:58 PM

]...we need to start carrying baseball bats, knives and handguns


He's right. They should start a gayng.

PatchyFogg
Aug 20 2005 08:50 PM

]Can you imagine if someone showed up at Jewish night with a sign that read, “Judaism Is Sin / Christ Can Set You Free”? The security guards would set a new land speed record getting to whomever held that sign, forcing them to take it down.


Wow, homosexuality is a religion? Reminds me of Stripes, "No, but we are willing to learn."

Willets Point
Aug 20 2005 10:03 PM

MFS62
Aug 21 2005 09:02 AM

"Can you imagine if someone showed up at Jewish night with a sign that read, “Judaism Is Sin / Christ Can Set You Free”? The security guards would set a new land speed record getting to whomever held that sign, forcing them to take it down."

Not necessarilly.
One of the reasons I never became a Yankee fan was when I was a kid, my friends and I used to go to games at each of the NY ballparks and sit in the grandstand. Then, when the game was in the seventh inning or so, try to sneak down into the reserved/ box seats. These were usually weekday games, the seats were never full.

In Ebbets Field and the Polo Grounds, no problem.
But in Yankee Stadium, it seems that the ushers and cops would let the blond, fair and red headed kids with freckles into the boxes. But if you had dark hair, dark skin, or wore a Yarmulke, they never let you move down.

Would they do that today?
Who knows?

But the author can't jump to conclusions like that.

Later

EDIT: How could I ever misspell Polo Grounds?

Nymr83
Aug 21 2005 01:34 PM

freedom of speech definetaly protects that sign in a public place (just as it protects other offensive material such as confederate or nazi flags, ku klux klan banners, etc) .
the phillies are of course welcome to include or exclude anything they want, its their park after all.
had i been the phillies i would have allowed them to display their sign for a few minutes to get their point across and then told them to take it down and stop causing a disturbance during a baseball game. i would NOT have prevented the other people at the park from going over and talking to them, though of course those who did had to realize that an offensive sign does NOT give you the right to hit someone, only to speak and voice your opinion.

but hey, we all knew that all the philly fans are idiots anyway, so who cares what they do to each other... these are the same morons that boo santa and throw batteries at people.

KC
Aug 21 2005 02:41 PM

>>>But in Yankee Stadium, it seems that the ushers and cops would let the blond, fair and red headed kids with freckles into the boxes. But if you had dark hair, dark skin, or wore a Yarmulke, they never let you move down.<<<

Oh please, every time something Jewish comes up on this forum someone
types something stupid. There are no fair red headed Jewish kids with freckles?
Maybe you just looked like geeks and everyone knows Champions don't like geeks.
Use your head and stick the beanie in your pocket to fool the lug head and stop
posting stuff like Yankee Stadium ushers were anti-semetic and that's why I'm
not a Yankee fan.

(edited slightly twice for clarity)

silverdsl
Aug 21 2005 03:14 PM

I'm Jewish and I've had the misfortune to have had to deal with anti-semitism so I'm sensitive to that particular issue. Never have I ever had the sense that the Yankees (or any other team for that matter) discriminate against Jewish fans.

KC
Aug 21 2005 03:37 PM

I have no way of knowing how old you are, silver ... but 62 is probably posting
about the 1950's. And we all know full well that 1950's New York was a lot
different than today. 62's post is peppered with stereo types.

Blonde fair kids ... oy, the gestapo!

Red head ... friggin' mick bastards!

Dark hair, dark skin? Ya mean like an Italian? Yeah, those guys aren't welcome
in da bronx either.

Fifty years later, I still would rather hear a story about how he and his friends
beat the lug heads instead of the whoa was us we couldn't sneak down to the
good seats because we were Jews and that's why I don't like the Yankees.

Please.

I'll prolly take some heat for the stance, but it's my right to post my opinion
which certainly has been a topic here.

DocTee
Aug 21 2005 04:29 PM

"The Mets reserve the right to remove banners containing inappropriate or commercial messages."

Let's see how far we can take this baby, and teach those Phillie punks a lesson.--

How 'bout one of Mr.Met sodomizing the (yarmulke wearing) Phanatic?

Nymr83
Aug 21 2005 05:44 PM

] Oh please, every time something Jewish comes up on this forum someone
types something stupid.


yes, you did type something stupid....

]Use your head and stick the beanie in your pocket


there is no reason he should have to remove his yamuka to trick some anti-semite asshole. i've personally never experienced anti-semitism out of someone in a position of authority, but i'm 22 and have lived my whole life in nyc. those who are older or have been to other areas have i am sure had to deal with much bigger idiots.

edited for quote button not working right

Nymr83
Aug 21 2005 05:48 PM

]Never have I ever had the sense that the Yankees (or any other team for that matter) discriminate against Jewish fans.


yeah, baseball has been pretty good about that in my lifetime...the only "discrimination" you see at Shea is age based.... if you are under 25 the ushers ask if these are your real seats, if you are older they dont even look at you.

KC
Aug 21 2005 06:09 PM

>>>yes, you did type something stupid....<<<

Dag, I was gonna predict someone would say that and then forgot.
If I had predicted it online, everyone would have been amazed.

>>>freedom of speech definetaly protects<<<

Yeah, 'definetaly' ... just not here. I can't post anything controversial
without getting hammered left and right.

I remember one time you actually told me you'd kick my ass
over something I posted and then igonored my answer and PM.
Guess us non-Jews gotta just suck it up and live with that. It's
my burden to bear, no, it's everyone who isn't like you who has
to bear the burden. The weight is terrible, but I'll make it.

DocTee
Aug 21 2005 06:12 PM

]It's
my burden to bear,


dude, you missed a chance for a golden pun: "it's your cross to bear"

KC
Aug 21 2005 06:16 PM

swing and a miss

MFS62
Aug 21 2005 06:18 PM

I was responding to the author's contention that if an anti-Semitic banner was posted, the guards would break speed records to have it removed.
I was recounting days, that I experienced, when that wasn't necessarilly the case.

And yes, it was in the 50's.
(How else could it have happened at the three ballparks I mentioned?)
And yes, times were much different then.
And yes, my post was a full of stereotypes.

But

I even asked if that would happen today. I didn't say it would.
But I saw those things happen for myself.
Many times.

Later

Nymr83
Aug 21 2005 06:19 PM

go cry about it. maybe you can make your icon a picture of christ carrying the cross like sal did and see if it wins you any simpathy.

]Yeah, 'definetaly' ... just not here. I can't post anything controversial
without getting hammered left and right.


yes freedom of speech protects your right to your comments, my right to hammer them, the philly fans' right to boo santa, and even the racist's opinion. it's a wonderful thing.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 21 2005 06:19 PM

]There are no fair red headed Jewish kids with freckles?



Can't think of any kid who meets that description......




Nymr83
Aug 21 2005 06:21 PM

good form...but what are the players behind him doing? :P

ScarletKnight41
Aug 21 2005 06:22 PM

Getting ready to start the inning while the kid was warming up in the pen.

Nymr83
Aug 21 2005 06:23 PM

wow, i dont remember there being a bullpen when i was that age.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 21 2005 06:24 PM

It wasn't anything fancy, for sure.

KC
Aug 21 2005 06:34 PM

I love that picture, and commented on his form the first time I saw it too.

>>>go cry about it. maybe you can make your icon a picture of christ carrying the cross like sal did and see if it wins you any simpathy.<<<

I ain't looking for any 'simpathy', just casting and reeling, casting and reeling.

Bret Sabermetric
Aug 21 2005 06:48 PM

Say, where'd that picture <<<<<==== come from, anyway? I forget.

Nymr83
Aug 21 2005 06:53 PM

i assumed it was your way of claiming to "bear the burden" of educating met fans who agree with the bullshit way in which the organization has been run lately, was that not it?

ScarletKnight41
Aug 21 2005 07:05 PM

Bret Sabermetric wrote:
Say, where'd that picture <<<<<==== come from, anyway? I forget.


Are you being serious?

Edgy DC
Aug 21 2005 07:12 PM


James Garfunkel

KC
Aug 21 2005 07:25 PM

>>>was that not it?<<<

Uh, yeah - I'm here to educate Mets' fans.

On edit, you meant Bret. Sorry, it's always about ME ME ME.

Nymr83
Aug 21 2005 07:58 PM

i am always referring to the OP or the post above mine unless i quote a sentence or otherwise indicate to whom i am speaking... don't take this as sarcasm or criticism it was for everyone's future knowledge.

Rockin' Doc
Aug 21 2005 08:39 PM

I believe KC is alluding to the fact that he posted the picture from "The Passion of the Christ" in response to one of Bret's posts. Bret then adopted it as his avatar and has remained with it ever since.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 21 2005 08:51 PM

This thread is so gay.

Rockin' Doc
Aug 21 2005 09:08 PM

NTTAWWT

Nymr83
Aug 21 2005 10:25 PM

]This thread is so gay.


if you said "This thread is so jewish" the security guards would set record time shutting you up....
yes, i'm mocking someone.

KC
Aug 22 2005 05:26 AM

>>>if you said "This thread is so jewish" the security guards would set record time shutting you up.... <<<

Good gosh, I state an "opinion" that you don't like and you get all cranky.
Frankly, it's people like you who do more commenting, policing, and com-
plaining about what's posted on this forum than the people who provide it.

Go FUCK yourself.

(edit once)

Nymr83
Aug 22 2005 01:19 PM

i enjoy getting shmucks like you riled up, i see i've succeeded.

KC
Aug 22 2005 01:44 PM

Truth be told, I wish it was only you that has me riled up. So don't revel
in it for too long, Skippy.