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Aug 14 2005 07:04 PM

Given this afternoon's events, would you rather:

1) Experience at last the thrill of the first no-hitter in Mets history at this juncture of the season knowing that via some deal with the devil it would mean the Mets would definitely NOT make the playoffs this season?


2) Be denied this no-hitter (with no guarantee of another shot at it but no restriction on it potentially happening) and play the rest of the season with the same chances of making the playoffs that already exist, 4 out with 45 to play?

It is a ridiculous hypothetical question, I grant you, but I can't answer it.

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 14 2005 07:31 PM

Two. Easily.

The no no-hitter thing has been going on so long, I've become almost fond of it. I was rooting for Pedro, but I no longer mind that the Mets have never had a no-hitter.

Aug 14 2005 07:35 PM

Already thinking about sweeping the Pirates for a little payback. #2, no doubt.

Aug 14 2005 08:08 PM

Number two, I want my Mets no hitter to be at Shea with Pedro striking out over ten and the side looking to end the game, and Piazza with the huge grand slam homer......yeah I'm greedy.

Edgy DC
Aug 14 2005 09:12 PM


Diabolical deals never seem to pay.

Wait, is Douglas Wallop involved in this at all?

Frayed Knot
Aug 14 2005 09:36 PM

For the second time today Yancy says exactly what I would have had I posted quicker. I don't see this as even a slightly tough choice.

Aug 14 2005 09:45 PM

I'll amp it up... I'd make this trade: tickets to a game at Shea where the Mets throw a no-hitter this season in exchange for a playoff berth. This team isn't making the playoffs anyway, and history like that would be very cool to witness.

Aug 15 2005 09:09 AM

I'll take #1, just because I'm pretty sure that the Mets aren't making the playoffs anyway.

Aug 15 2005 10:48 AM


I wonder what's the earliest in the season that anyone has given up on the chances of a Mets team that wasn't already hopelessly behind.

A cautionary tale on never giving up too early, or never assuming victory too early. I had a girlfriend whose boss had terrific Giants season tix, and she took me to a game one Sunday. I'm the guy who never ever leaves a game early, but this was a chilly, windy, Meadowlands day (of "Does Bo know wind? Does Bo know cold?" fame), and my girlfriend was not all that into football, so for once in my life I made an exception. With about a minute to go in the game, I said, "Let's leave. The Giants have it won. All Pisarcik has to do is fall on the ball three times and run out the clock...."

Aug 15 2005 11:53 AM

Well, neither is going to happen.

History has shown that, throughout it's history, this franchise has never been normal. If we use history as our guide, the first Mets no-hitter will not come during an otherwise non-descript regular season game, but will probably happen in one of these scenarios:

1. A division-clinching win at home, before a packed house at Shea;
2. The deciding game to win a World Series, at home, probably a game 7;
3. The last game ever at Shea;
4. The first game at the new stadium.

Aug 15 2005 01:22 PM

I always figured that the Mets would get their first no-hitter in a game where they lost 1-0 with the other team scoring their run on an error.

Aug 15 2005 01:49 PM


Aug 15 2005 01:51 PM

Centerfield wrote:
I always figured that the Mets would get their first no-hitter in a game where they lost 1-0 with the other team scoring their run on an error.

Me too. It's a way for Mets' fans to continue to self-loathe on a day that finally brings what they've all been waiting for.

Aug 15 2005 03:53 PM

Sorry - I don't self-loathe.

Aug 15 2005 03:53 PM

Don't be sorry.

Aug 15 2005 03:56 PM

LOL. The funny thing is that I think I am more of an optimist because I am a Mets fan - Maybe it's because my first exposure to them was when I was 10 during the Ya Gotta Believe days....

Aug 15 2005 04:00 PM

How did you miss 1969?

Aug 15 2005 04:08 PM

I was 6...

Aug 15 2005 04:15 PM


MiniKnight was a rabid fan by that age.

Willets Point
Aug 15 2005 04:24 PM

Some of us are slow developers. I didn't take an interest in baseball & the Mets until I was 11.

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 15 2005 04:26 PM

I'm sure his parents had something to do with that!

I was also 6 in 1969, and was completely indifferent to the Mets. I knew that they were a baseball team that my grandfather liked to watch. And I was in the room (and not paying attention!) when he watched them win the World Series. At the time I noted how happy it made him. I had to stew over that memory for about a year and a half before I started following the Mets myself, at the age of 8 shortly after the beginning of the 1971 season.

Edgy DC
Aug 15 2005 04:28 PM

]I wonder what's the earliest in the season that anyone has given up on the chances of a Mets team that wasn't already hopelessly behind.

January first.

Aug 15 2005 07:46 PM

My Mets fandom began in the summer of '73. I was 8 going on 9.

'Twas the 'Say Hey Kid' that intoxicated the young 'Can.

Aug 15 2005 09:57 PM

Wow, you know what? I think I would take #1 because then, at least Pedro's got the no hitter. Playoffs are still iffy even in #2

I started watching with my dad at the very end of 1971, but not so late in the season that I couldn't name the whole lineup to him when he quizzed me. I would say it was probably September. I would have been 12.

Waited out the strike at the beginning of 1972 and have been watching ever since.

Aug 15 2005 11:30 PM

1951, Brooklyn Dodgers. So I'm used to adversity.

SI Metman
Aug 16 2005 02:12 AM

I'd probably take the no-no just to end the stupid curse. I didn't plan on making the postseason this year anyway. Mets in '06