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Willets Point
Oct 13 2005 03:35 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 13 2005 04:09 PM

So you may or may not notice, but each Thursday I go through the backpages of the baseball forum and cull out threads for the KTE, Game Recounts, Predictions or Permanent Link forums as well as picking out the best and brightest threads for Featured Archives according to the standards described here.

Once that's done, I send threads that haven't been responded to in 45 days to the archives at the Crane Pool Companion (I may lengthen this time period during the offseason if posting reduces). It occurs to me that once a thread is archived there's no way to bring it back and make it active again, so if this type of thing is important to you, make a habit of looking through the back pages and bump up threads you want to keep active. If there's something you think should be in the Featured Archives make a note of that.

Also, I plan in the first week of November to archive threads in the PotG, Game Recounts and KTE forums. If you think any or all of these threads need to be kept active here, bump 'em or reply in this thread of what you think should and should not be archived.

Edgy DC
Oct 13 2005 03:55 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 13 2005 04:40 PM

Well, you've done a great job finding and/or sparing ongoing --- but neglected --- threads like Met-Lovin' Big Shots or Wifey Watch. I appreciate you bumping and sparing some of htese.

I think ongoing and all-purpose threads should finally be retired at the end of the calendar year and restarted if desired.

Oct 13 2005 04:25 PM

Thanks Willet - and a big shout out to Yancy for making the speed bumps
we hit since moving here pretty mild. The ranks, the archives, and some of
the cosmetic stuff we'd likely still be fumbling over if not for his sql prowess.

Wow, I just sounded like Clyde Frazier there for half a sec.

Oct 13 2005 04:29 PM

But you don't need to worry about that Just for Men stuff.

(And thanks to all of you for giving us this lovely cyberhome!)

Oct 13 2005 04:35 PM

Thanks for archiving SAABP!

Willets Point
Oct 20 2005 11:11 AM

I'll be archiving thread that have been inactive since before Sept. 5th this afternoon.

Willets Point
Oct 27 2005 08:22 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Oct 27 2005 10:52 AM

I'll be archiving threads in the Baseball forum from before September 12th this afternoon.

Also, on Nov. 3rd I'll be archiving everything in the PotG, KTE, and Game Reports forums for 2005 so you have one week to let me know if you want to keep anything active in those forums (yes, Edgy, forums not fora).

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 27 2005 09:22 AM

I "bumped" six threads in the POTG forum that I'd like to have stick around until spring. All the others can be archived at any time.


Oct 27 2005 01:06 PM

Thanks Willet, it will be interesting how much gets trimmed off the size
of the database file which has again eclipsed 80MB.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 27 2005 01:07 PM

I think that archiving the POTG and IGT's will have a pretty big impact, judging by the number of posts in each forum.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 27 2005 01:09 PM

An archive of the Non-Baseball Forum would probably help a lot, too. There are over 6,000 posts in there, and a bunch of them are probably pretty old by now.

Edgy DC
Oct 27 2005 01:10 PM

A lot of those are reviveable threads. Let us lay off of them for now and see how this flies.

Willets Point
Oct 27 2005 02:18 PM

That was my next project after the Nov 3rd thing. Since it's been brought up what should be the procedure for archiving the NBF? Should the great threads move to the Featured Archives forum or should there be a new forum for Featured NBF threads? Any other thread I'd figure on bumping if it is All-Purpose type of thread or sending to the off-site archives if it's not good enough for the Featured Archive nor A-P.

Willets Point
Nov 03 2005 04:43 PM

A good batch of new inductees are in the Featured Archives forum and I bumped a couple of clever parodies to the parodies forum and some prognosticating to the Predictions archive (someone has to make it there job to read the Predictions archive and verify if any of these predictions come true). The PotG, KTE, & Game Recounts forums are now empty (except for some thread YSG asked me to keep) and ready to fill up again next season. Now the next archival project is the Non-Baseball forum. Where do we put threads that we want to keep on the board? In the Featured Archives forum, a special NBF Featured Archives forum, or just keep bumping them up in the NBF forum? Anyhow the NBF doesn't grow too fast so it's not a pressing problem, just want to get some suggestions.

Willets Point
Nov 17 2005 04:06 PM

You will notice there is now a NBF Classics archive with a select group of inductees from the Non-Baseball forum. There are some new threads in Featured Archives as well. I bumped up some All Purpose Style threads in the Non-Baseball Forum as well. Everything that's been inactive since before Oct. 3rd in the Baseball and Non-Baseball forums will be sent to the offsite archive as soon as I find the link to do it (if another admin could email it to me I'd appreciate it, keep losing my damn bookmarks).

Giant Squidlike Creature
Jan 05 2006 01:33 PM

Archives are getting updated again today after a two-week layoff. Bumping this so it won't get archived.

Jan 05 2006 01:35 PM

That's a lot of work, Squid.
Did you get your running in today? (or whatever it is that you do with tentacles)


Willets Point
Jan 05 2006 02:15 PM

There we go. The forum is leaner and archives grow fat with memories.

Jan 05 2006 02:19 PM

Willets Point wrote:
There we go. The forum is leaner and archives grow fat with memories.

My best memory today was brought on by the fact that I am now Terry Leach, one of my two all-time favorite Mets. (The other is Al Jackson)


Willets Point
Jan 05 2006 02:24 PM

Did you ever read Terry Leach's book?

Jan 05 2006 04:09 PM

Never knew he had a book.

Willets Point
Jan 05 2006 04:15 PM

I haven't read it myself but I remember on of European members (duan or maybe even the long-lost Ash) mentionign it.

Willets Point
Feb 09 2006 01:59 PM

New additions to our Featured Archives thread hall of fame include a couple of celebrity encounters (Valadius meets Al Leiter, we all meet Steve Zabriskie) and some silly fun started by Bret.

I've also begun a new NBF archive called the Music Archives, basically a place to store music discussions like the Band-Ladder Challenge and the "One" contest. I don't want to follow the precedent of the Film and Book forums here and have a special music only forum (for fear of making the NBF a bleak and empty place), but I do think it will be helpful to have a place to make it easy to dig up old threads.

Edgy DC
Feb 09 2006 02:29 PM

Good job.

Willets Point
Feb 16 2006 02:28 PM

The Crane Pool Forum asks the important questions like What Really Happened to Kevin Mitchell's Girlfriend's Cat? and How much mockery can one wrestling fan take?

Also, we're 45 days into the new year and thusno inactive threads from 2005 remain unarchived.

Willets Point
Mar 02 2006 03:31 PM

In preparation for the new season the rest period for inactive threads before they are archived has been shortened from 45 days to just one month, so threads will be dropping off the main page much more quickly. I also cleaned up the "Game Recounts Archive," "The KTE Archive," and sent the "CPF Parody challenge" threads to Valhalla. There are a number of "monster threads" out there that are taking up a lot of server space and while we at the CPF pride ourselves on not having many rules, I put out a plea for sanity that you consider whether or not your topic of discussion needs to be in an "All-Purpose" thread or if it has the legs to stand in a shorter thread of its own.


Johnny Dickshot
Mar 02 2006 03:32 PM

Are you saying "more and shorter" beats "fewer and longer"?

Willets Point
Mar 02 2006 03:37 PM

For archiving purposes yes, but mostly I'm saying moderation is good. The move to AP threads is creating a lot of huge threads with a number of good topics within them and sometimes its hard to see the forest for the trees.

Mar 02 2006 03:37 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Mar 02 2006 03:40 PM

Good ideas, Squid

whoops I mean Willets

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 02 2006 03:38 PM

Great job Willets. We were over 31,000 posts and now we're down into the 24,000's. The air feels clean and fresh now.

Frayed Knot
Mar 02 2006 03:47 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
Are you saying "more and shorter" beats "fewer and longer"?

I would, and for reasons having nothing to do with archiving.

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 02 2006 03:49 PM

Also, since we're no longer on ezBoard, we don' t have to worry about posts falling off after the 20th page.

So the "too many topics" fear is no longer warranted.

Willets Point
Mar 02 2006 03:51 PM

Frayed Knot wrote:
="Johnny Dickshot"]Are you saying "more and shorter" beats "fewer and longer"?

I would, and for reasons having nothing to do with archiving.

I'm not sure if FK is talking about threads or something naughty.

Mar 02 2006 08:02 PM

Thanks, Willet ... I did a backup download earlier and the trimming erased
almost 25% of the database file.

Willets Point
Mar 23 2006 02:00 PM

New inductees into the Featured archives include:

Rotblatt's formula for measuring pimp and savvy satire from Edgy DC.

Adopted prospects who flew the coop are now found offsite

Remember that the offsite CPF Archives are quite expansive, so if you can't find something here, you'll find it there.

Edgy DC
Mar 23 2006 02:21 PM

Have we retired the donuts thread?

Willets Point
Mar 23 2006 02:26 PM

Moved to NBF Classics.

Mar 23 2006 02:42 PM

Not being able to search in the archives and not being able to steal code are two big flies in the ointment.

Mar 23 2006 02:51 PM

I don't wanna be captain obvious, but you can search the subject titles
at least with your browser (in case anyone doesn't know that). Adding some
kind of search capability is a good idea - one of those google "search this
site or internet" thingies maybe.

Edgy DC
Mar 23 2006 02:56 PM

Rotty's work did not have to be moved anywhere to be a Crane Pool Classick.

Mar 23 2006 02:58 PM

I just commented in the Bitch to the Admins forum that it would be nice to have a link to the archives at the top of the home page.

Mar 23 2006 03:00 PM

There's one in the middle of the home page.

Mar 23 2006 03:05 PM

Sometime tonight, there will be only one link on top of the home page ... to
The Crane Pool Companion :-)

I better get to work now that I said that.

Mar 23 2006 03:07 PM

Elster - after much looking around, I found the link that you mentioned. Yes, it's there. But let's just say it doesn't jump off the page at you. Still, thanks for the heads up.

Kase - I'll look forward to seeing that :)

Yancy Street Gang
Mar 24 2006 01:32 PM

Elster88 wrote:
Not being able to search in the archives and not being able to steal code are two big flies in the ointment.

Not sure what you mean about not being able to steal code.

There's no quick cure for the search thing, unfortunately. It will help once the pages are spidered by Google, but that hasn't happened yet, and I have no idea when it will. Once it does, though, you could go to and, under Advanced Search, choose to select only from

It's possible that other search engines (Yahoo, Alta Vista, etc.) have already spidered the site; I haven't checked. If they have, and they have an option to search only one domain, then that would work too.

But since the archives are no longer in a database, and are simply HTML text files, the effort required to create a custom search function is too much for it to be feasible.

If anyone wants to check out other search engines to see if we're spidered, please let us know what you find.

Mar 24 2006 01:44 PM

There are java applets that are out there that will spider one site, I'll
research it.