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Some opportunities for Jim Duquette begin to open up.

Mex17
Oct 10 2005 11:21 PM

Phillies:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2186589

Orioles:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2186744

He deserves a second chance after being made to be the scapegoat for Wilpon's wrongheaded thinking (which was enabled by Goldis) at the 2004 trade deadline.

Edgy DC
Oct 10 2005 11:32 PM

I don't think he was made the scapegoat for those deals.

Valadius
Oct 11 2005 02:57 PM

Orioles job looks to be off the table, Flanagan "promoted".

Mex17
Oct 11 2005 10:38 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
I don't think he was made the scapegoat for those deals.


http://mets.scout.com/2/278781.html

Edgy DC
Oct 11 2005 10:49 PM

That article clearly gives Duquette a pass and makes Wilpon and Goldis the scapegoats for the deal.

Mex17
Oct 11 2005 11:01 PM

Edgy DC wrote:
That article clearly gives Duquette a pass and makes Wilpon and Goldis the scapegoats for the deal.


It certainly does, and I have to think that Duquette, as it states in the article, could not have possibly changed philosophies so quickly.

Wilpon, on the other hand, was the one who was chirping about "Meaningful Games in September" and making statements on the radio that spring like "We're not rebuilding. . .we've rebuilt."

But Duquette was the one who fell on his sword after the fallout because Wilpon has the power to make a guy like Duquette fall on said sword.

So the article, assuming that it is accurate, paints Wilpon/Goldis as the culprits but Wilpon pins it on Duquette (who, if you believe Healy, opposed the whole thing) after the fact.

An EXTREMELY raw deal if true.

Frayed Knot
Oct 11 2005 11:35 PM

That's also a mostly opinion article.
Don't confuse it's conclusions of heros and villians as if a statement of absolute truth.

Johnny Dickshot
Oct 13 2005 09:56 AM

Not to invite a fatwah here but can anyone come up with an "Al Goldis is the Antichrist" angle from a non-dubious source?

KC
Oct 13 2005 10:12 AM

Re-quoting "meaningful games" and the such is tired and old. The things
that some Mets fans cling to and lick is just sad.

seawolf17
Oct 13 2005 10:15 AM

="KC"]The things that some Mets fans cling to and lick is just sad.


Boy, is that ever true!


Edgy DC
Oct 13 2005 10:15 AM

] cling to and lick


Says Jerry Cram.

Yancy Street Gang
Oct 13 2005 10:16 AM

I don't think the guy licking the puddle is getting maximum protection from that batting helmet.

Edgy DC
Oct 13 2005 10:32 AM

The guy running that outstanding White Sox staff, pitching coach Don Cooper, played under Goldis for New York Tech. According to [url=http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spmark074458709oct07,0,6910180.column?coll=ny-sports-columnists]this recent Newsday article[/url], he swears by the Tech program then and now.

Valadius
Oct 13 2005 02:32 PM

Is that... poo?

seawolf17
Oct 13 2005 02:34 PM

I have no idea what it is, and I don't think I want to know. There's a lot more to the story, apparently; when I saw Kase's post, I googled "mets lick," and that's the photo essay that came up. It was too bizarre not to post.

KC
Oct 13 2005 02:44 PM

I guess I should point out for 411 that I am the founding father of Wound
Lickers Anonymous. You've probably seen some of our bumper stickers:

One Game At a Time
Another Friend of KC's
You Will be Amazed
Share Your Crapiness

Centerfield
Oct 13 2005 02:49 PM

Seawolf. Just noticed the profile pic. LOL.

seawolf17
Oct 13 2005 02:57 PM

And once again, CF, my least favorite part of the new forum rears its ugly head, as nobody will get your comment once I post four more times.