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Drafting Hubie

Edgy DC
Oct 08 2005 10:17 PM

I knew Hubie Brooks was a top draft pick. I knew he had a remarkable year for ASU, in what was a remarkable season for ASU. I suspected he was a senior when the Mets drafted him.

What I didn't know was that all the boys wanted to dance with Hubie. I daresay he must have one of the most exceptional draft histories of any player ever.

June 5, 1974: Drafted by the Montreal Expos in the 19th round of the 1974 amateur draft, but did not sign.

January 7, 1976: Drafted by the Kansas City Royals in the 1st round (5th pick) of the 1976 amateur draft (Secondary Phase), but did not sign.

June 8, 1976: Drafted by the Chicago White Sox in the 1st round (14th pick) of the 1976 amateur draft (Secondary Phase), but did not sign.

January 11, 1977: Drafted by the Oakland Athletics in the 1st round (2nd pick) of the 1977 amateur draft (Secondary Phase), but did not sign.

June 7, 1977: Drafted by the Chicago White Sox in the 1st round (3rd pick) of the 1977 amateur draft (Secondary Phase), but did not sign.

June 6, 1978: Drafted by the New York Mets in the 1st round (3rd pick) of the 1978 amateur draft.
That's passing on first-round money five times. Usually high first-round money. He must've really liked college or something.

metirish
Oct 08 2005 10:23 PM

]That's passing on first-round money five times. Usually high first-round money. He must've really liked college or something.


Either that or he didn't have an agent,maybe his parents insisted he finish college, but yeah that's some draft history.I doubt that would happen today.

Edgy DC
Oct 08 2005 10:25 PM

Sorry. That's four times. The first draft, he went in the 19th round.

MFS62
Oct 09 2005 07:38 AM

Based on that player he turned out to be, I guess he was just trying to prove that you can fool all of the people all of the time. He was working his way through all the ML teams.

Youda' thunk that someone rated that highly by so many people was going to turn out to be at least as good as a Reggie Jackson.
Then again, there was Todd Van Poppel.

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TheOldMole
Oct 09 2005 02:05 PM

And David Neid.

Valadius
Oct 09 2005 02:29 PM

And Paul Wilson.

Edgy DC
Oct 09 2005 03:54 PM
Edited 2 time(s), most recently on Oct 09 2005 06:50 PM

And more people than not.

I don't understand the "at least as good as Reggie Jackson" remark. It's a near impossible standard. If you're a good enough prospect to be drafted early in the first round once, you're more typically good enough again. What's remarkable is that he kept re-entering the draft (and they had two drafts per year back then), not that multiple teams thought highly of him.

Nobody was fooled. With the reams of evidence at hand, it's clear that the draft is a crapshoot, and it was even moreso back in the seventies. I imagine if the Mets were guaranteed the career that Brooks had, they still would have taken him.

Look at the draft that he went in.

1. Bob Horner 3B Atlanta Braves
2. Lloyd Moseby 1B Toronto Blue Jays
3. Hubie Brooks SS New York Mets
4. Mike Morgan P Oakland Athletics
5. Andy Hawkins P San Diego Padres

6. Tito Nanni OF-1B Seattle Mariners
7. Bob Cummings C San Francisco Giants
8. Nick Hernandez C Milwaukee Brewers
9. Glenn Franklin SS Montreal Expos
10. Phil Lansford P Cleveland Indians
11. Rod Boxberger P Houston Astros
12. Kirk Gibson OF Detroit Tigers
13. Bill Hayes C Chicago Cubs
14. Tom Brunansky P California Angels

15. Bob Hicks 1B St. Louis Cardinals
16. Lenny Faedo SS Minnesota Twins
17. Nick Esasky P Cincinnati Reds
18. Rex Hudler SS New York Yankees

19. Brad Garnett 1B Pittsburgh Pirates
20. Tim Conroy P Oakland Athletics
21. Gerry Aubin OF Pittsburgh Pirates
22. Robert Boyce 3B Baltimore Orioles
23. Rip Rollins 1B Philadelphia Phillies
24. Matt Winters OF New York Yankees
25. Buddy Biancalana SS Kansas C
ity
26. Brian Ryder P New York Yankees
Those not bold never ate a major league meal. Of those who had better careers than Brooks, two of them were drafted ahead of him, and one (Gibson) featured his team committing the cardinal sin of going after the local boy. (Gibby went to Michigan State.)

The last first-rounder who did better --- Tom Brunansky --- was a lucky shot, if you believe TheBaseballCube.com's contention that he was originally drafted as a pitcher. One who had a comparable (though pretty clearly lesser) career is Nick Esasky, also shown here as drafted as a pitcher. (For what it's worth, I suspect TBC.com is incorrect.)

So yes, the Mets could have went for Gibby or Bruno, or jumped on Cal Ripken who the Orioles got in round two.

But that's just the nature of the draft. Very. Few. First Rounders.

Are Hall-of-Famers.

Or, many, whoops, aren't even necessarily players.

Valadius
Oct 09 2005 04:20 PM

Oh look, Mike Morgan.

Didn't he set a record for most teams played for?

MFS62
Oct 09 2005 05:57 PM

OK, point taken.
Replace that player's name with "perennial All Star Stud".
The point I was making was that I would have thought that a player held in such high esteem to have been drafted by so many teams would have had a better career than Brooks did.
He wasn't chopped liver. In fact he was a pretty good player. But my hopes for him (being a fan) were higher.

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