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All-Bust Team 2005

Valadius
Aug 31 2005 01:42 PM

In the spirit of the All-Sleeper Team, here's the All-Bust Team of 2005:

C - J.D. Closser, Col
1B - Jim Thome, Phi
2B - Bret Boone, FA
SS - Cristian Guzman, Was
3B - Mike Lowell, Fla
LF - Barry Bonds, SF
CF - Steve Finley, LAA & Corey Patterson, ChC
RF - Richard Hidalgo, Tex & Sammy Sosa, Bal

Utility - Tony Womack, NYY/MFY

SP - Curt Schilling, Bos
SP - Oliver Perez, Pit
SP - Russ Ortiz, Ari
SP - Zach Greinke, KC
RP - Dan Kolb, Atl
RP - Danny Graves, NYM
RP - Keith Foulke, Bos

PiazzaFan411
Aug 31 2005 01:46 PM

What do you mean by All-Sleeper and All-Bust

Valadius
Aug 31 2005 01:51 PM

A sleeper is someone who wasn't expected to play as well as they ended up playing. A bust is someone who was expected to play well and ended up playing poorly.

Elster88
Aug 31 2005 02:07 PM

Well, Bonds didn't play. Is it right to call him a bust?
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sharpie
Aug 31 2005 02:09 PM

I don't know who other than Jim Bowden thought that Cristian Guzman was going to play well. Adrian Beltre in many years would've made this list but Lowell clearly gets the nod.

Valadius
Aug 31 2005 02:10 PM

1. After all the talk about Bonds coming back, coming back, coming back, he still hasn't come back.

2. The reigning NL MVP not appearing in a game is a huge bust, in my opinion.

metirish
Aug 31 2005 03:09 PM

Beltran has been a bust if you want to go the bang for the buck route,Finley is old and it seems to have caught up with him, Boone,Thome and Lowell certainly should be considered busts.

seawolf17
Aug 31 2005 03:12 PM

How do you have an All-Bust Team without Pam Anderson?

Beenso
Aug 31 2005 04:15 PM

Boone sucked last year too

metsmarathon
Aug 31 2005 04:59 PM

is it fair to label a player a bust if he gets hisself injured, instead of simply sucking?

Nymr83
Aug 31 2005 06:44 PM

Guzman has been SO bad that even if you thought he wouldn't have good year he's probably still way below your expectations. Not sure who else you'd pick at SS unless you want to count injuries and go with Nomar.

I tried making a list but its so similiar to Valadius' that i won't bother. Just a few points:

Curt Schilling- he pitched hurt, they won the world series, he missed half of this year. That was the plan, wasn't it? can't complain about him after gutting it out last october.

Barry Bonds- are you a bust if you get hurt for the year? I guess i look at things from a roto perspective in that everyone knew he was gone for awhile so the expectations weren't as high.

Adrian Beltre- a bust from the Mariners perspective for sure, but what non-mariner fan didn't see it coming?

Brian Jordan, Raul Mondesi- they had to replace them, they stunk so bad.

Bret Sabermetric
Aug 31 2005 06:49 PM

metsmarathon wrote:
is it fair to label a player a bust if he gets hisself injured, instead of simply sucking?


Admins: could we re-route this where it belongs, back to the Traschel thread?

Thanks.

MFS62
Aug 31 2005 07:41 PM

Morgana?

Later

Willets Point
Aug 31 2005 09:01 PM

The Mets.