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ScarletKnight41
Jun 09 2005 04:04 PM

The real estate market will drop about a month after my township completes its assessment of all of the houses, which will certainly result in a tax increase based on the overly inflated values.

ScarletKnight41
Jun 09 2005 04:05 PM

cooby - my 8-year-old has been on a cinnamon toast kick. He's been making it for himself all week for breakfasts and snacks. In fact, he's eating some right now.

Willets Point
Jun 09 2005 04:17 PM

SK and I are equally pessimistic about how the real estate bubble burst will affect us.

I love how New Jersey has townships.

cooby
Jun 09 2005 04:19 PM

Don't you have them where you live? The county that live in is so weird that we have two townships with the same name: Pine Creek Twp.

I live in one of them.

MFS62
Jun 09 2005 04:20 PM

According to Ron Ansana (MSNBC) this mornng, the real estate bubble may burst very soon. He said that Real Estate is the cover story of (my car radio went all static) Newsweek (?) , and things like this usually make the cover after they have run their course.

He attributed the boom to the new types of mortgages that make speculation easy.

That's all I remember. At that point, Imus called him a "bald, Linguini-eating weasel" and I turned the station.
Later

Willets Point
Jun 09 2005 04:42 PM

I've never seen a place called township in New England (or down in Virginia for that matter) so I associate it with New Jersey. When I was a kid and saw all the road signs that say "Twp" I called them "twerps".

ScarletKnight41
Jun 09 2005 04:47 PM

We had townships on Long Island, but they weren't as important as they are in NJ. Dix Hills was part of Huntington Township, but the township was less important than the specific town.

cooby
Jun 09 2005 04:47 PM
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That would be me: a Pine Creek twerp

metsmarathon
Jun 09 2005 05:29 PM

i'm a-hoping the real estate bubble bursts and bursts bigtime. i'm a-gonna be in the housing market really soon, and a well-timed burst would be just super!

friggin morris county. why's the eastern side gotta be so darned expensive!

ScarletKnight41
Jun 09 2005 05:33 PM

As if on cue, the assessor was just here.

ScarletKnight41
Jun 13 2005 01:09 PM

DaVinci Syrups makes a sugar free Dulce de Leche syrup that I sometimes buy for my lattes. Whenever my daughter sees the bottle, she recites lines from Guys and Dolls (she appeared in the show in middle school).

TheOldMole
Jun 13 2005 02:13 PM

I'm not certain of this (long time since I read the story) but it seems to me that Runyon's character was simply named The Sky, on account of how high he would bet.

He was, however, named after Runyon's mentor, New York sportswriter, gambler and man about town Bat Masterson -- who previously had a history in Dodge City and Tombstone.

Edgy DC
Jun 14 2005 10:07 AM
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]...although I do like Don't Bring Me Down quite a bit.


No wonder Sammy Martin wanted to gut you.

cooby
Jun 14 2005 10:12 AM

ELO- Telephone Line reminds me of Mr. cooby but not for the reasons you think

Horace Wimp reminds me of a guy I worked with at the time


Love both songs, btw

ScarletKnight41
Jun 14 2005 11:05 AM

We've been eating fresh strawberries by themselves, although D-Dad also used some over the weekend to make a strawberry margarita. That's as elaborate as we get with them.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 14 2005 12:14 PM

The correct answer is "Sweet Talkin' Woman"

cooby
Jun 14 2005 12:33 PM

There are just too many to choose from. And they all kinda fade together in your head until somebody brings one up

MFS62
Jun 14 2005 12:42 PM

My favorite Michael Jackson video is Smooth Criminal.

But the Al Yankovic parodies of the Beat It and Bad videos are priceless.

Later

sharpie
Jun 14 2005 03:16 PM

Chicago

(with Styx a close second)



Bzzzzz. I'm sorry, the answers we were looking for were either Nirvana or Cream.

MFS62
Jun 14 2005 03:36 PM

sharpie wrote:
Bzzzzz. I'm sorry, the answers we were looking for were either Nirvana or Cream.


I guess that says a lot about both of us. Cream wasn't bad, but not my fave at the time.
Nirvana is something I would scrape from my shoes.

Later

seawolf17
Jun 14 2005 03:39 PM

Or America's greatest rock band, Aerosmith.

sharpie
Jun 14 2005 06:11 PM

I'm related by marriage to one of the guys in Styx. He's a great guy but, man, that band was terrible.

MFS62
Jun 15 2005 12:19 PM

Silly me, I should have answered Chicago and Queen.

But I could be easily swayed to add Aerosmith as my third choice.

Better?

Later

sharpie
Jun 15 2005 02:28 PM

Better. Phish and Radiohead would also have been accepted. I'd also accept Steppenwolf over Styx.

Willets Point
Jun 15 2005 02:47 PM

Altan, Belly, Blur, Cornershop, Erasure, Fishbone, James, Newcleus, Oasis, Parliament, Stereolab, Supertramp, Weezer - any others?

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 15 2005 03:08 PM

America, Bauhaus, Cake, Dogstar, Erasure, Firehouse, Garbage

Morphine, Madness, Manowar, Metallica, Megadeth

sharpie
Jun 15 2005 03:17 PM

You say Parliament I'm gonna say Funkadelic.

There's also Elastica.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 15 2005 10:57 PM

Mudhoney
Yes
Deelite
Wilco
Sublime
Sparks

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 15 2005 11:38 PM

Toadies
Rush
Kansas
Devo
Redbone
M
Rockpile

sharpie
Jun 15 2005 11:42 PM

Ace
Hole
Korn
Love

seawolf17
Jun 15 2005 11:53 PM

Are we just randomly naming bands, or bands that are good? Because Korn and Aerosmith don't belong on the same list for any reason. (And I kinda enjoy some Korn.)

I did like the Firehouse mention above. Don't get me started on Poison, Cinderella, Warrant, Slaughter, Winger, et al.

Or Cracker, Everclear, KISS, Live, Queen, Rush, Soundgarden, Tesla, and of course, my #1, Thunder (although many of those would probably crack my overall Top 25).

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 15 2005 11:56 PM
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I was going for a weird kinda poetry. But I was certain to list only bands that sucked less than Styx.

Vixen.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 15 2005 11:56 PM

Zebra.

Frayed Knot
Jun 15 2005 11:58 PM

Live
Boston

seawolf17
Jun 16 2005 12:19 AM

Hey, Randy Jackson from Zebra sang the anthem at Shea last time I was at Shea. Probably the best anthem I've heard in a long time, actually.

Rockin' Doc
Jun 16 2005 07:59 AM
A few more

Kansas
Barenaked Ladies
Matchbox 20
Toad the Wet Sprocket
REO Speedwagon
U2
R.E.M.

soupcan
Jun 16 2005 09:45 AM

SQUEEZE

MFS62
Jun 16 2005 10:31 AM

]Ace
Hole



If you say those together real fast, you're describibng Derek Jeter.

Later

seawolf17
Jun 16 2005 02:24 PM

Doc, none of those bands have only one-word names. (Okay, Kansas does, but U2 and R.E.M. don't count.)

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 16 2005 02:32 PM

]Hey, Randy Jackson from Zebra sang the anthem at Shea last time I was at Shea. Probably the best anthem I've heard in a long time, actually.


I was there too and was convinced he'd take the octave up and rock out during the second half of the anthem, as he did on every Zebrta song... only he didn't.

I was so excited I came home and downloaded "As I said before" on iTunes.

TheOldMole
Jun 16 2005 07:41 PM

Best anthem I ever heard was the Spinners, at a Knick game.

ScarletKnight41
Jun 16 2005 09:24 PM

The best college course I took that I expected to hate was Art Humanities. I had a wonderful teacher, and it really taught me to look at art at a whole different way. I later took 20th Century Art with the same instructor, and that was fabulous.

Rockin' Doc
Jun 16 2005 11:57 PM

]Doc, none of those bands have only one-word names. (Okay, Kansas does, but U2 and R.E.M. don't count.)


Somehow, I missed that they were one word band names. I just caught the part of about not having the in front of the name. I thought it was too damn easy.

That will teach me to post early in the morning prior to having my morning coffee.

cooby
Jun 17 2005 07:45 AM

The coobys' first date:

ScarletKnight41
Jun 17 2005 08:05 AM

The first movie D-Dad and I saw together was -



But that wasn't a date - we came to the event separately.

The first movie we went to together was -



But (despite some contention on this point), that wasn't a date either. We were supposed to go with a group of friends, and said group crapped out on me, but D-Dad and I went anyway.

I can remember those two movies, but I can't remember our first official date. All I know is that by the end of Freshman Orientation, we were seeing each other.

TheOldMole
Jun 17 2005 08:53 AM

First date was a concert by

TheOldMole
Jun 17 2005 09:21 AM

The Sonny Rollins concert at Opus 40 was memorialized on this album:



and in this movie:



The concert also entered into jazz legend. I was sitting with Lucille, Sonny's wife, and Sonny was in the middle of a solo, when suddenly he disappeared. He was no longer on the stage -- one of Opus 40's stone terraces. There was a gasp from the audience...and then he started playing again, out of sight, but so beautifully and powerfully that everyone assumed it was some kind of planned stunt.

Except that it couldn't have been. I told Lucille that I'd go check, and I found Sonny lying on his back, a cameraman poised above him, still playing. When he finished his solo, we helped him up, but he couldn't put any weight on his foot...it was broken.

He asked me, "How long do you want me to play?"

I said, "Sonny, we'll take you to the hospital right now."

He said, "No, I'll finish the gig."

And he did, balanced on one leg.

What had happened, as he explained it later...he had meant to step down off the stage, but he had thought he remembered a flight of steps (they were on the other side), not a three-foot drop.

Edgy DC
Jun 17 2005 09:37 AM

Um, wow!

Lundy
Jun 17 2005 10:08 AM

The Lundy's first date:

Rockin' Doc
Jun 17 2005 01:58 PM

On our first date, Mrs. Doc and I went to see Animal House as part of a double date with a college buddy and his girlfriend.

cooby
Jun 17 2005 01:59 PM

Lundy's first date must have been a mystery flick

Edgy DC
Jun 21 2005 12:16 PM

Sorry, I took the Van Morrison discography from this site but shortsightedly clipped out "The Bang Years" thinkiing that it woudl be all Them material. I was mistook.

His legacy is singer? Nah? He isn't/wasn't half the singer that Cat Stevens -- his fellow freaky religious mystic folky rock dude who blew your mind during the Nixon administration -- is/was.

soupcan
Jun 21 2005 04:23 PM

Where the soupcans met...


Hi Life Bar & Grill 477 Amsterdam Avenue (corner 83rd St.)

The soupcans first date was at...


Firehouse 522 Columbus Avenue (85th St.)

The soupcans got engaged at...

Hi Life Bar & Grill 477 Amsterdam Avenue (corner 83rd St.)

cooby
Jun 22 2005 10:29 AM

I was going to tackle Edgy's Charlie Brown list, but I am only familiar with eight of them

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2005 10:32 AM

Eight'll do. especailly if you explain your thinking.

cooby
Jun 22 2005 10:43 AM

I have to do that too?
Sigh

cooby
Jun 22 2005 10:50 AM

Okay, done if Edgy cares to look


Also, I;ve got the New Yorker article saved to read between calls, thanks! :)

Edgy DC
Jun 22 2005 10:58 AM

Isn't that better? It's the whys that make the exercise bear fruit.

RealityChuck
Jun 22 2005 11:36 AM

First date was to see "Raiders of the Lost Ark."

sharpie
Jun 22 2005 11:46 AM

First movie date was to see "Berlin Alexanderplatz." It's like 12 hours long and was showing over 5 nights --- which meant 5 dates -- which was a big commitment.

Frayed Knot
Jun 23 2005 04:46 PM

Any list of songs with 'Baby' in the title has to contain The Ronettes version of 'Be My Baby'.

It just has to.

MFS62
Jun 23 2005 04:52 PM

That was the first one I thought of when I saw that question. Unfortunately, it was the only one.
And I would have kicked it anyhow. I thought it was the Shirelles. How could I possibly forget the Ronettes?
Silly me.

Later

ScarletKnight41
Jun 23 2005 06:03 PM

Not only is Veronica a great song, but the video is amazing. It's the closest thing I've ever seen to approximate what it must be like inside the mind of someone suffering from Alzheimer's Disease.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 27 2005 08:07 PM

--Our first date we met in Central Park and would up getting Burritos on the UWS.

--Cold Stone Creamery was a trap answer: Their ice cream is gross like bubble gum, only they hide it by allowing you to insert stuff that you like.

Good concept but the IC itself -- eh.

soupcan
Jun 27 2005 09:48 PM

Johnny Dickshot wrote:
--Our first date we met in Central Park and would up getting Burritos on the UWS.


Where - Burritoville on Amstrdam?

It's Mexcellent.

Johnny Dickshot
Jun 28 2005 09:43 AM

Yup, Burritoville.

cooby
Jun 28 2005 11:57 AM

soupcan: Creamsicles are, like, my favorite friggin ice cream bars

cooby: I've got some recipes for you

seawolf17
Jun 29 2005 12:12 PM

I want to add a third fantasy to my list.

Last night at the Ducks game, they had a guy who won a "manager for a day" contest. He brought out the lineup cards and they let him coach first base for the entire game. That would be very cool... except I would want to take it to the next level and get into an argument with an umpire and get thrown out of the game. Throw my hat, kick dirt, the whole thing. That would be a lot of fun.

seawolf17
Jun 29 2005 06:29 PM

The first CD I ever bought:



It will always hold a special place in my heart and on my CD rack.

MFS62
Jun 30 2005 07:17 AM

My favorite barbecue sauce/ marinade for beef is a mixture of Bourbon and Hoy-Sun sauce.

Later

cooby
Jul 06 2005 10:35 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jul 06 2005 01:19 PM

Reading through the Louie Armstrong tribute made me start to think about Louie Armstrong in Walt Disney movies and I got to wondering-does anybody else besides myself remember this movie?



http://www.ultimatedisney.com/oneandonly.html

cooby
Jul 06 2005 01:06 PM

But I'll restate Johnny D's question. Does anyone have a happier story?

Yes, but I am very hesitant to give stock advice to friends, so I won't tell it.
Sorry.

soupcan
Jul 06 2005 01:17 PM

Wife worked for a mutual fund years back. At year-end they would give you either a cash bonus or shares in the fund. She would always take the shares.

The years when she got most of the shares they were valued at about $5 to $7 each.

When we finally sold them years later they were going for close to $40.

Pretty good profit, until we had to pay the taxes.

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 06 2005 01:45 PM

I'm not looking for advice -- just a good story... so tell it ...NOW!!!!!!

cooby
Jul 06 2005 01:47 PM

I think soupcan's story should be in the original A/A thread.

This is all getting mixed up

soupcan
Jul 06 2005 03:14 PM

RE: The shelled Pistachio/sunflower seed question.

I would agree that its done by machine because I think having it done by hand would too time consuming and costly - unless of course Kathy Lee Gifford and Nike are supplying the workforce - but if done by machine, how does the machine do it?

Edgy DC
Jul 11 2005 11:08 AM
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Mutts is the best artwork on the funnies page bar none. (No less than Charles Schultz was a fan.) Patrick McDonnell's not much of a writer, though.

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 11 2005 11:16 AM

The artwork on Mutts is a real throwback to the comic strip style of around 1920. It does look appealing. I agree about the writing, though. It's not among my favorite strips.

I tried to think of a strip that I could argue is better drawn than Mutts but nothing came to mind. If I do think of anything I'll come back and post it here.

seawolf17
Jul 11 2005 11:21 AM



The problem is that Peanut and I are Earl and Ozzie.

Edgy DC
Jul 11 2005 11:30 AM

Ozzie's a bachelor, though.

I think Schultz's comment in a foreword to a Mutts collection was something like "I thought, 'My God, somebody's found a new way to draw a cute little dog'."

Very Thurberesque how these pets wander free and have their own lives. Not very contemporary, but nice.

The genius conceit is that the pets have depth but the people are flat, marching through the pets' world in a puzzling parade of absurdist charicatures.

Willets Point
Jul 12 2005 11:49 AM

Cooby: " Flying naked has always been much better than a hangover. "

You speak as if you have experience flying naked. I expect it would be rather chilly the higher up you go.

cooby
Jul 12 2005 11:54 AM

Willets Point wrote:
Cooby: " Flying naked has always been much better than a hangover. "

You speak as if you have experience flying naked. I expect it would be rather chilly the higher up you go.


Well that's true. I wondered why you made it sound like it'd be a bad thing.

Okay, flying naked with a quilt along, just in case.

Edgy DC
Jul 12 2005 12:07 PM

I guess this is now the Answer/Ask-Would You Rather Spinoff Thread.

ScarletKnight41
Jul 12 2005 01:42 PM

To be honest, I'm finding the Would You Rather thread to be troubling. I can answer the questions, but I have trouble thinking of disturbing choices.

cooby
Jul 12 2005 01:43 PM

You and me both! We must be too gentle minded

soupcan
Jul 12 2005 01:52 PM

I'm just reaching back to childhood.

Used to play that game with my friends allatime.

The razor blade bannister was a recurring theme.

Edgy DC
Jul 12 2005 01:57 PM

Recurring theme in my nightmares now. Thank you very much.

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 12 2005 03:19 PM

I used to play Soupcan's game too.

Frink > Ralph

Ralph had one unforgettable role in the Valentine's Day ep, and some good lines in selected appearances, but they've way overwritten and overexposed him since.

Give me rarely appearing minor characters in small doses like Frink & Disco Stu over the obligatory Ralph Wiggum line and/or episodes built around him.

Willets Point
Jul 12 2005 04:58 PM

As noted in my first post of the Would You Rather thread, the options can be pleasant. In fact if you two can put in some pleasant things from time to time it would help me avoid getting the skeevies. Personally, my favorite would you rathers involve some sort of trade-off or moral choice as oppossed to pain and misery.

soupcan
Jul 12 2005 07:51 PM

You'll have to rely on the others for the pleasentries, I'm all about pain and how one would prefer it when it comes to this game.

I will dial back my participation though in deference to your request.

Willets Point
Jul 12 2005 10:30 PM

No soup you're great, I just wanted SK and cooby to know that they could participate with pleasant options too. I like some balance in the game. I would just get skeevied out if every single question involved rusty hacksaws and razor blades.

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 13 2005 10:12 AM

Regarding Johnny Dickshot's reference to paperofrecord.com:

HOLY CRAP! I had no idea there was such a site!

Their list of newspapers isn't all that impressive, but having almost 120 years of The Sporting News is amazing.

It would be great if, for baseball reasons, they had a daily newspaper from the ten original major league cities: (New York/Brooklyn, Philadelphia, Boston, Washington, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Chicago, Cincinnati.) They're pretty light in that regard. Maybe some day.

If you live in (or are interested in) one of the small towns that they have, it's an even greater treasure. (I noticed Lock Haven, Pa. on the list.)

cooby
Jul 13 2005 10:15 AM

Lock Haven, PA, I believe I have heard of that...anything interesting going on there Yancy?

Meant to say this yesterday:

The Sporting News archives is practically laughable, so this is a great find, thanks Johnny


="Yancy Street Gang"]Regarding Johnny Dickshot's reference to paperofrecord.com:

HOLY CRAP! I had no idea there was such a site!

Their list of newspapers isn't all that impressive, but having almost 120 years of The Sporting News is amazing.

It would be great if, for baseball reasons, they had a daily newspaper from the ten original major league cities: (New York/Brooklyn, Philadelphia, Boston, Washington, Cleveland, Detroit, Pittsburgh, St. Louis, Chicago, Cincinnati.) They're pretty light in that regard. Maybe some day.

If you live in (or are interested in) one of the small towns that they have, it's an even greater treasure. (I noticed Lock Haven, Pa. on the list.)

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 13 2005 10:21 AM

All I know about Lock Haven is that there's an Arby's near the interstate, and that my mother-in-law vacationed there as a child.

cooby
Jul 13 2005 10:23 AM

Your mother in law vacationed at Arby's? Wow, that'd be neat!


(My friend Denise owns that Arby's, btw, and it's a block from my parents' house)

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 13 2005 10:25 AM

Deja vu all over again. We had this same conversation (about Arby's and Denise and childhood Lock Haven vacations) over at the old orange site that had the birds.

cooby
Jul 13 2005 10:26 AM

lol, I know we did, but I honestly don't remember why your mother in law vacationed in LH, do you know?

sharpie
Jul 13 2005 10:30 AM

I miss those birds.

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 13 2005 10:35 AM

I'm not sure why Lock Haven. (Or why a cousin, but that's a different thread.) My guess would be that it was nearby and inexpensive. I think they rented cabins and frolicked outdoors. (She'd not only go with her parents and brother, but with her aunts, uncles, cousins, etc.)

cooby
Jul 13 2005 10:40 AM

Wow, Lock Haven's population must have practically doubled that week...

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 13 2005 10:45 AM

Maybe I can look for a mention of it in the online archives of The Lock Haven Express!


Lock Haven Under Seige
Yancy Mom-in-law, kin
swarm local cabins

ScarletKnight41
Jul 13 2005 10:46 AM

sharpie wrote:
I miss those birds.





Concierge: Who d'ya want?
Leo Bloom: I beg your pardon?
Concierge: Who d'ya want? Nobody gets in the building unless I know who they want. I'm the "concierge". My husband used to be the "concierge", but he's dead. Now I'M the "concierge".
Max Bialystock: We are seeking Franz Liebkind.
Concierge: Oh... the Kraut! He's on the top floor, apartment 23.
Max Bialystock: Thank you...
Concierge: ...But you won't find him there... he's up on the roof with his boids. He keeps boids. Dirty... disgusting... filthy... lice-ridden boids. You used to be able to sit out on the stoop like a person. Not anymore! No, sir! Boids!... You get my drift?
Leo Bloom: We... uh... get your "drift". Thank you, madam.
Concierge: I'm not a "madam"! I'm a "concierge"!

cooby
Jul 13 2005 10:54 AM

="Yancy Street Gang"]Maybe I can look for a mention of it in the online archives of The Lock Haven Express!


Lock Haven Under Seige
Yancy Mom-in-law, kin
swarm local cabins


Frolicking outside!

Yancy Street Gang
Jul 14 2005 11:14 AM

]A yellow bedroom would be cheery. A pink bedroom would be like living in a vagina.


So which one do you prefer?

Willets Point
Jul 14 2005 11:36 AM

Yellow.

TheOldMole
Jul 14 2005 06:51 PM

Did you ever have a car that was a lemon from the day you bought it?


There was the Buick convertible I bought for 25 bucks. It got stolen once from in front of my house but the thieves had to abandon it a block and an half away when it broke down.

soupcan
Jul 14 2005 10:07 PM

That's pretty funny Mole.

We leased a new Dodge Grand Caravan that was a piece of crap.

The same problem kept recurring the entire three years we had it - some hydraulic brake thng. The worst part was that since it was a lease we couldn't trade it in or otherwise 86 it without paying a boatload of money.

Chrysler was just a big ole dick about it too. Didn't want to hear about it. We tried to get the lemon law applied (you have to have the same problem more than three times I think) but by the time all the paperwork finally got submitted the lease was like a few months from ending so we just sucked it up.

THe bottom line is I will never own a DaimlerChrysler product in my life. A lemon once in a while is acceptable but the way they responded to our problem was just not.

cooby
Jul 19 2005 05:20 PM

RE: Ms. Cleo

Quote: metirish

I think she was indicted by the Goverment, IRS and all that.

He's right, and I am sad.

Rockin' Doc
Jul 19 2005 10:29 PM

Since Edgy beat me fair and square in the answer/ask thread, I thought I'd post my response to the worst name ever given a child.

When I was an intern, I had an elderly male patient named Urin B. Meens.
I always wondered what the middle initial of B stood for. How bad could it have been that he chose to go by Urin instead? Hell, Bullshit would have been an improvement over Urin..

cooby
Jul 19 2005 11:00 PM

He may have beat you timewise but that is definitely a worse name than Beckett.

Maybe that is what the B stood for

Edgy DC
Jul 19 2005 11:15 PM

First of all, he's told the Urin story.

Second of all, it doesn't really work if it's an old man. It qualifies as a "worst name someone gave to a child," but it seemingly implies that you want someone who is actually a child when you meet him or her and his or her appalingly tasteless and self-absorbed parents.

Rockin' Doc
Jul 20 2005 10:21 PM

Edgy is correct, I had told the Urin story previously on the old CPF. Urin was an elderly man when I encountered him, but I'm quite confident that he was a child at some point.

Still, I believe it's hard to find a person that has been stuck with a worse name than Urin. I'm sure there are people that have been stuck with worse names, but I can't recall any personally.

Johnny Dickshot
Jul 28 2005 10:24 AM

I'm far from a ringer, even among stinkiest-level co-ed work softball. But a CPF softball/whifleball game is a great idea. Who's hosting

seawolf17
Jul 28 2005 02:36 PM

Dream political job? Supreme Court Justice. You're constitutionally guaranteed a job until you die.

Failing that, president of a small public liberal arts college. (And who knows? That one might even be realistic someday.)

cooby
Aug 06 2005 09:48 AM

Would you Rather? spinoff comment

A backyard full of vintage cars just screams "junkyard" at me. I'm glad MSF chose animals

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 06 2005 09:52 AM

I'm with cooby. That would have been an easy decision for me, too.

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 06 2005 09:52 AM

I'm with cooby. That would have been an easy decision for me, too.

TheOldMole
Aug 06 2005 01:22 PM

I'm with cooby and Yancy. That would have been an easy decision for me, too.

cooby
Aug 06 2005 02:11 PM

Unless of course you are speaking of old Rolls Royces, like Reggie Jackson has...

TheOldMole
Aug 06 2005 02:19 PM

What about old Rolls Royces vs. pandas and koalas?




MFS62
Aug 09 2005 03:52 PM

You can't eat a Rolls Royce.

And

The Kinks don't even make my top 5 post- Beatles and Stones British groups.
Queen
The Pretenders
Herman's Hermits
The Who (although they were produced by The Kinks' producer Shel Talmy)
Pink Floyd

EDIT: If either Queen or the Pretenders came along too late to qualify as an answer to the question, replace them with the Dave Clark Five.


Later

TheOldMole
Aug 11 2005 10:44 PM

The Kinks would be my choice too. Great lyrics, great satire.

TheOldMole
Aug 11 2005 10:45 PM

"British Invasion" really means the 60s.

Otherwise I'd take the Clash.

Edgy DC
Aug 12 2005 12:13 AM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 12 2005 12:23 PM

Would Led Zep count?

TheOldMole
Aug 12 2005 12:07 PM

I'd say they make it under the wire.

TheOldMole
Aug 12 2005 12:07 PM

Wait a second...who made me the arbiter here?

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 12 2005 02:14 PM

I'm obviously the arbiter here. The British Invasion means 1960s only and lesser bands closer to the 1964 weigh more than better bands as you move away from 1964, so, for example, Led Zeppelin can only be a correct answer if you can prove all the bands before they arrived were so much worse than them and since THAT's impossible, Led Zeppelin is the wrong answer.

The Kinks is correct answer, tho I also would have accepted The Who.

Edgy DC
Aug 12 2005 02:23 PM

Well, I thought their sort of second generation-ness would disqualify them by some definitions

Now, let's sort this out though. You seem to suggest that a British Invasion-status legacy is degraded the further we move away from 1964. Let's degrade them 10% for every year. That still means only a 50% degradation.

Led Zep would have to be 100% better than the Kinks to meet that standard, and I think many would argue that they are --- 90% of their catalog being classic, and many many more bands being subsequently influenced.

The Who was my other answer, though. The correct ranking of mod groups goes.

1) The Who
2) The Kinks























3) The Seeds

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 12 2005 02:39 PM

It's really an exponential scale though, so I think Zep would have to be 100 times The Who in order to qualify along with them.

I've always considered the Kinks more "British invansion-y" than The Who.

Willets Point
Aug 12 2005 02:45 PM

The British Invasion is only the bands the became popular in the wake of the Beatles arrival in 1964 - like the Stones, Who, Kinks, not to mention the Dave Clark Five, Gerry and the Pacemakers and many crappy bands that gained a moment of underserved fame in the quest for the next Beatles. Before 1964, rock and roll was a US export. After the Beatles, rock and roll was imported from Britain in a big way. By the time Led Zeppelin came around rock and roll was so cross-pollinated there wasn't so much of a divide between US & UK scenes, so they really can't be considered British Invasion.

Edgy DC
Aug 12 2005 03:00 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 14 2005 03:00 PM

Where's the line? When does "The Invasion" end and all subsequent bands become no longer invaders but honored guests? When is it fish and not fowl?

Side question: Boyce and Hart or Peter and Gordon?

MFS62
Aug 12 2005 03:36 PM

Were they all in a world without love?

Later

TheOldMole
Aug 13 2005 04:50 AM

Boyce and Hart wrote some good songs.

Frayed Knot
Aug 14 2005 02:21 PM

"I do like to dig into a plate of Pad Kee Mow."

Which is certainly better than trying to dig into Mo's knee pads

sharpie
Aug 14 2005 10:11 PM

There was for a time references to "the second British invasion" which encompassed the blues based British bands - Cream, Led Zeppelin, Small Faces, Jeff Beck Group, Bluesbreakers and so forth as well as psychedelic or "progressive" bands such as Pink Floyd, Traffic and King Crimson.

First British invasion question is easy: Kinks, then Who or Who, then Kinks. I could be persuaded either way and my opinions would change depending on my mood. All others don't count.

Second British invasion - I never was much of a Zep fan after their first 2 albums. But I really dig the Syd Barrett era Pink Floyd so I'm going with them followed by Cream, Crimson, Zep,

Willets Point
Aug 15 2005 12:31 PM

SK & I won't be going to supper together anytime soon. I love Indian food. I could eat it every day if I could afford it.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 15 2005 03:57 PM

cooby - I was also thinking that you couldn't pay me enough money to see Celine Dion sing.

seawolf17
Aug 15 2005 03:57 PM

I was typing out Celine Dion also, but I couldn't think of a question, so I cancelled my response and let someone else answer.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 15 2005 03:58 PM

ROFL - Celine isn't too popular in these parts <g>

cooby
Aug 15 2005 04:01 PM

When I was working at a bank, I once spotted a Celine Dion Christmas CD and a portable player in the break room and I damn near quit on the spot worrying that we had to listen to it during our breaks.

MFS62
Aug 15 2005 04:31 PM

Seawolf, don't worry that your lawn has weeds.
Anyone flying over your property at 5,000 feet will look down and say "what a nice green lawn".
Its what I call my 5,000 foot rationalization.

Later

cooby
Aug 15 2005 06:06 PM

wish I could just get someone to come in, clear out all the crap that's overrunning our flowerbeds and our grass, and then let me start from scratch


Maybe you could get John Smoltz

cooby
Aug 16 2005 02:14 PM

THis cat isn't doing anything so it can't count. But it looks very funny, I think


ScarletKnight41
Aug 16 2005 03:19 PM

]
If I were asleep, and you were my alarm clock, how would wake me?



This sounds like something out of the Dating Game.

cooby
Aug 16 2005 03:32 PM

I would like to see Switch Hitter's answer to that one

cooby
Aug 17 2005 02:37 PM

Poker??

You'd wake Widey up playing poker? Annie, I am disappointed!

SwitchHitter
Aug 17 2005 02:39 PM

Look again

cooby
Aug 17 2005 02:42 PM

Better! :)

ScarletKnight41
Aug 17 2005 02:53 PM

If I could choose any car, I'd probably just pick the updated version of the Subaru Legacy, perhaps with a couple of more bells and whistles options than I currently have. I'm not much of a car person, I'm not enthused about change, and I like how the Subaru handles.

I'm leaving the question on the main thread for someone with a more exciting choice of car.

cooby
Aug 17 2005 02:55 PM

I would take KC's Saab and the fur coat

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 17 2005 03:13 PM

ScarletKnight41 wrote:
]
If I were asleep, and you were my alarm clock, how would wake me?



This sounds like something out of the Dating Game.


Sort of. It's from the scene in "Fistful of Yen" (Kentucky Fried Movie) where the guards accused of betraying Dr. Khlan are tried in a "Dating Game" like scene (and murdered when they answer incorrectly).

The reply to the alarm-clock question:

"Mmmm... I wouldn't. I'm no ding-a-ling."

Funniest 15 minutes of movie ever.

KC
Aug 17 2005 03:22 PM

>>>I would take KC's Saab and the fur coat<<<

That's funny, taken out of context I guess a lot of people would like to be in
a sun drenched luxury car in a fur coat. I just don't get people who treat pets
like second class citizens.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 17 2005 03:38 PM

My favorite Kentucky Fried Movie bit is Scott Free. I had first seen the movie just after I finished high school, where a couple of the social studies teachers were big into Kennedy assasination theories, so the board game based on the different theories cracked the hell out of me.

Willets Point
Aug 17 2005 03:40 PM

That's anime not Japanimation! (Sorry, I just once had a new arsehole torn by my geeky friends when I referred to something as Japanimation, so I thought I'd pass on the wrath).

seawolf17
Aug 17 2005 03:46 PM

What the heck is the difference?

Willets Point
Aug 17 2005 03:48 PM

That's the same thing I thought, but when you have two sci-fi club/SCA types frothing at the mouth, you just let it pass.

MFS62
Aug 17 2005 03:49 PM

="Vic Sage"] Either way, as long as i can go fuck myself.
]


Vic, methinks there are a whole bunch of folks who would pay good money to watch that happen. :)

Good answer.

Later

cooby
Aug 17 2005 03:50 PM

I'll bet theres a few who would readily suggest it! heheh

Lundy
Aug 17 2005 04:02 PM

Top ten Dylan covers off the top of my head? I'm lucky if I can think of ten Dylan songs off the top of my head!

Vic Sage
Aug 17 2005 04:13 PM

]I'll bet theres a few who would readily suggest it! heheh

many already have, coobster.

As to "Japanimation vs Anime", i'd put my SF geek credentials up against anybody, and i say there's no difference. Some overly sensitive anime-philes view 'Japanimation' as somewhat perjorative, but i think its meaning is more clear to the unitiated. Its lack of esoteric, cultish exclusivity is probably why the hardcore don't like the term.

That being said, I sometimes use the term 'anime' to refer to Japanese language unexpurgated animation, and use 'Japanimation' to refer to the dubbed English-language, extremely re-edited kiddie versions that wash up on our shores. But that's a distinction of my own devising. And that is why i reiterate that "speed racer" is Japanimation, as opposed to Macross 7 or Lensman, which i'd call 'anime'. But, frankly, its ALL anime, and its ALL Japanimation.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 17 2005 04:19 PM

I bounced Vic's post off of my teenage daughter, who is something of an expert on anime. Here's what she said,

] *shrug* i've seen them used interchangeably. it doesn't really matter

Willets Point
Aug 17 2005 04:23 PM

Vic and the Scarlett Lass are far more rational than my college friends.

Edgy DC
Aug 17 2005 04:25 PM

I'd greenlight a pirate movie called Vic and the Scarlett Lass just based on the name alone.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 17 2005 04:26 PM

The thing is, my daughter would love to get together with Vic. She loves Broadway and comic books, and they'd have a lot to discuss.

Vic Sage
Aug 17 2005 04:36 PM

Are you trying to get me divorced or arrested? or both?

"come here, little girl, i want to sing you show tunes... heh heh heh... come to my house and let me show you my collection of `headlight' covers... heh heh heh..."

ScarletKnight41
Aug 17 2005 04:41 PM

Vic - you'll love this. When you asked me about what comic books she liked, she suggested that I just give you her IM address so you could chat about it directly.

I told her that you're a good guy, but that there was something about the concept that just didn't seem proper.

TheOldMole
Aug 18 2005 09:58 AM

You could monitor the conversations.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 18 2005 10:08 AM

Oh yeah, 15-year-olds LOVE having their conversations monitored.

TheOldMole
Aug 18 2005 01:47 PM

I didn't say it was a good idea.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 18 2005 09:08 PM

I saw a MAD magazine just recently... it's gone color inside, with LOTS of heavy stock full-page ads, mainly for video games. The insides are poretty much the same with TV/movie parodies, Spy vs. Spy, Aragones cartoons on the margins and Al Jaffee's fold-in.

My old neighbor wrote a piece that was illustrated for and appeared in Mad not too long ago: The MAD Guide to Meat

Edgy DC
Aug 19 2005 08:33 AM

Wasn't the MAD of my childhood ad-free?

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 19 2005 08:43 AM

Yup.

Willets Point
Aug 19 2005 09:24 AM

MAD was one of the few magazines to hold off against advertising along with Consumer Reports. I assumme the latter still doesn't accept ads.

Edgy DC
Aug 19 2005 09:40 AM

I guess it's good that it's out there under any circumstances. The darkly funny thing is that the only time I ever hear about mad any more is when one of their artists pases away --- Frank Kelly Freas is 2001, George Woodbridge in 2004...

Classick MAD, of course, would have had a some fun with that.

It looks like Woodbridge to the end remained easy to appreciate but hard to get:

ScarletKnight41
Aug 19 2005 09:43 AM

Consumer Reports is still ad-free.

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 19 2005 10:36 AM


Every adult I meet who has a good sense of humor read MAD Magazine as a kid.

TheOldMole
Aug 19 2005 10:36 AM

So, I believe, is the current incarnation of Ms. Also Kiplinger's Magazine.

cooby
Aug 19 2005 10:43 AM

My favorite feature was the TV show and movie send ups.

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 19 2005 10:51 AM

I loved Don Martin. He and Sergio Aragones were the two MAD contributors I'd put in the cartoon genius category.

Johnny's comment above (about adults with senses of humor reading MAD as a child) is interesting. I don't know if I can say that MAD had any tangible influence on my sense of humor, but I certainly was a devoted reader for a few years there.

Edgy DC
Aug 19 2005 10:54 AM

Frank Kelly Freas was also a great contributor to sci-fi magazine and cover art. One of his classics got turned into the cover art for Queen's News of the World:

TheOldMole
Aug 19 2005 12:07 PM

A friend of mine, Hechter Ubarry, played the lead villain in Crocodile Dundee II. I met him shortly after the movie came out, and right after the Mad parody of it came out...he was so thrilled to have been caricatured by Drucker.

TheOldMole
Aug 19 2005 12:08 PM

Don't forget the great Wally Wood.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 19 2005 01:07 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Aug 19 2005 01:43 PM

This was an hysterical book by a Mad Magazine writer. It probably didn't define my views on religion, but it helped give them some voice <g>

Johnny Dickshot
Aug 19 2005 01:21 PM

Dave Berg aka Roger Kaputnik is dead too.

Vic Sage
Aug 19 2005 02:45 PM

Harvey Kurtzman, people!
whatsamatta wit youse guys?

From a biography in Bud Plant's Illustrated Comics website:

]Kurtzman discovered within himself a degree of perfectionism that gave his stories more impact and verisimilitude. It also slowed up his output and one way to earn more money was to go back to the humorous material that had appealed to Gaines at that first meeting. In October of 1952 Mad #1 hit the stands. Edited and inspired by Kurtzman, the comic book was very much the reflection to his sensibilities and sensahumor. It took about a year to find its audience. It was, after all, a comic book, but the humor was aimed at adults. For 23 issues of the comic book and five issues as a magazine, Kurtzman guided the style and direction of Mad. With issue 29 (Sept. 1956), Kurtzman was gone. Though Mad had been his baby from conception, Gaines was banking on the title to be the life raft of his sinking EC Comics line. As a magazine, it wasn't perceived as being a comic and especially not an EC comic. Kurtzman literally forced the change of editorship when he insisted on a controlling interest in the magazine. I think he knew Gaines wouldn't and couldn't give in. I don't think Kurtzman cared.

He died in 1993. As one of the true geniuses in comics, his legacy will always be with us. In the minds and hearts and strips of innumerable artists who grew up with his work, the influence will live on. And with the reprinting of the early Mads by Russ Cochran, there will always be the means for another generation to learn from the master."

Yancy Street Gang
Aug 19 2005 03:01 PM

Harvey was before my time. My memories of MAD were from the magazine days, but I do remember they would include reprints of the old MAD comics inside the MAD Super Specials, which I think came out quarterly.

I loved those old comics; they were great. Does anyone remember POTRZEBRIE?

seawolf17
Aug 19 2005 03:15 PM

]"Which is better, 1 or 2?"


Hysterical.

Willets Point
Aug 19 2005 03:24 PM

Optometrist humor?

TheOldMole
Aug 19 2005 03:28 PM

One too many letters: POTRZEBIE.

Kurtzman was the genius behind all of Mad.

Paul Krassner, when started The Realist, was still a virgin, and still living at home with his mother. With the celebrity he was getting from The Realist, he knew it was only a matter of time...but he still had no place. So William Gaines told him he could use his couch at the Mad office.

Sure enough, this woman starts coming on to Paul at a party, and the moment is nigh. They go up to Gaines's office, start to get undressed, and Paul takes out a condom.

She waves it away. "Oh, don't worry."

So they get to it. And at the moment of truth...as Paul is about to become a man...he looks up at the picture of Alfred E. Neuman on the wall and says, "What, me worry?"

Frayed Knot
Aug 19 2005 04:35 PM

Over the years I met a handful of the (mag era) 'MAD' guys - not just artists but a few of the eds & execs as well - and it struck me that they all looked oddly familiar. It took me a while but I finally realized that it was because the staff artists tended to draw each other. Not in the TV & movie paradies obviously but in the parody serials that often mocked suburban scenes and values the fathers and neighbors in those pieces frequently looked suspiciously like the illustrators' bosses & co-workers.

TheOldMole
Aug 19 2005 05:00 PM

That's great.

ScarletKnight41
Aug 19 2005 05:22 PM

I feel like I should say that I'm planning to read The Bible one day, but I know myself well enough to know that it's unlikely that I'll ever do that.

MFS62
Aug 19 2005 08:14 PM

I've read the Bible.
But not the sequel.

Later

TheOldMole
Aug 19 2005 08:58 PM

The Almighty Strikes Back?

MFS62
Aug 21 2005 10:49 AM

The book upon which Mel Brooks' "History of the World, Part II - Jews in Space" will be based.

Later

SwitchHitter
Aug 22 2005 02:44 PM

]If a doll was made of you with a pull string to make it speak, what five phrases would the you doll utter?


"I love you!"
"Food!"
"Go Astros!"
"How much more 'no' do you need?"
"Don't call me 'But Mommy!'!"

ScarletKnight41
Sep 19 2005 04:54 PM

We took a cruise to Bermuda last month (on Celebrity). I also cruised to Bermuda when I was expecting my oldest child (on Royal Carribean).

I took two other cruises when I was a kid - the first was to Nassau (Home Lines), and the other was to Bermuda (I can't remember the cruise line).

Bermuda was my favorite port. It's my favorite place in the world. It's where I want my ashes spread.

seawolf17
Sep 20 2005 03:10 PM

I've been passing Dutchesses for the last two days, wondering what they were all about. Chili dogs, eh? I'm there.

MFS62
Sep 20 2005 03:11 PM

Be sure you get the chopped onions.
And PLENTY of napkins.

Later

Yancy Street Gang
Sep 20 2005 03:11 PM

Eat too many chili dogs, and you'll be passing more than Dutchesses.

I've never passed a Dutchess, but it sounds painful.

seawolf17
Sep 20 2005 03:17 PM

Just make sure to pass the Dutchess on the left-hand side.

MFS62
Sep 20 2005 04:00 PM

Nice.

Later

cooby
Oct 13 2005 12:15 PM

1) Willets has never slept in a wet bed

2) Right now, I would like to be a loose cannon in Delaware

cooby
Oct 13 2005 07:32 PM

Would you rather fast all day or spend the day at services?

This is going to sound stupid, but if you go to services, do you still have to fast?

MFS62
Oct 13 2005 07:52 PM

Coob,
While you're in services, there isn't any chance to eat.
And if you're not at services, it takes a very strong person to not want to eat.
So, if you're going to fast anyway, you might as well do it at services.

Later

ScarletKnight41
Oct 13 2005 07:58 PM

="cooby"]Would you rather fast all day or spend the day at services?

This is going to sound stupid, but if you go to services, do you still have to fast?


It's not stupid.

Presumably, you could eat before and/or after services.

And there are many of times that you might. Health supercedes the commandment to fast. Kids don't have to fast, nor do the elderly. If you're pregnant or nursing or have any other kind of health condition, you don't fast.

So it's possible to attend services but still not fast on Yom Kippor.

Valadius
Oct 13 2005 08:10 PM

Just don't bring any crackers in to services to munch on. People will stare.

Giant Squidlike Creature
Dec 08 2005 02:37 PM

Good God people! Why is this buried at the bottom of the forum?

Big bump.

ScarletKnight41
Jan 03 2006 04:12 PM

I really liked Purple Rain. It's hard to take it seriously in retrospect, because Prince has become such a joke, but that was a very well done film.

cooby
Jan 03 2006 04:14 PM

I LOVE Purple Rain!

seawolf17
Jan 03 2006 04:22 PM

Aren't we supposed to start AN AP (all-new all-purpose) threads in '06? I'll start the parade.

Edgy DC
Jan 03 2006 04:25 PM

Ah, Parade



Prince is not a joke.

Edgy DC
Jan 03 2006 04:29 PM
Edited 1 time(s), most recently on Jan 03 2006 05:03 PM

Every friday night I call your butt up on the phone,
A deeper voice answers, says u're not at home,
Now if you think that I'm a fool, 4 fallin' 4 any line,
Honey put down all your money and u'll beat me everytime

(Irresistable bitch!)
I love the way you walk
(Irresistable bitch!)
I love the way you talk
(Irresistable bitch!)
I really dig the way u kiss
(Irresistable...)
Oh mama, I wish I could resist


My partners ask me why I take so much abuse
Why am I so faithful honey, why are u so loose?
They say why am I the one who never gets to take u home...
They don't know the things u do 2 me, when we're alone

(Irresistable bitch!)
I love the way you walk
(Irresistable bitch!)
I love the way you talk
(Irresistable bitch!)
I really dig the way u kiss
(Irresistable...)
Oh mama, I wish I could resist


Hurt me, hurt me

(Ho-ho, Ho-ho
Ho-ho, Ho-ho)

Stole all my heart, babe
Played it off like it was a joke
Stealin' all my heart babe 2 keep u by my side,
And bleed me 'til I'm broke

Hell if I know why I let u drive my car...
Don't I know that walkin', won't get me very far
Sure I know that cryin' over u is just in vain...
But all the things I lose goin' to add up to the all the things I've gain

(Irresistable bitch!)
I love the way you walk
(Irresistable bitch!)
I love the way you talk
(Irresistable bitch!)
I really dig the way u kiss
(Irresistable...)
Oh mama, I wish I could re...


Hurt Me!

Stole all my heart, babe
And played it off like it was a joke
Stealin' all my heart babe 2 keep u by my side,
And bleed me 'til I'm broke

music breakdown

Everybody, everybody dance
Everybody, everbody
Everybody, everybody dance
Everybody....

(Ho-ho, Ho-ho)

(Irresistable bitch!
Irresistable bitch


It ain't Mozart or anything, but...

MFS62
Jan 03 2006 04:34 PM

"My partners ask me why I take so much abuse
Why am I so faithful honey, why are u so loose?
They say why am I the one who never gets to take u home...
They don't know the things u do 2 me, when we're alone"

That was eerie.
I was unfamilliar with the lyrics, so I started singing them in my mind. The tune my head put those words to was "Come to my Window" by Melissa Etheredge. I thought it was a missing verse.
Try it yourself.

Later

cooby
Jan 16 2006 08:28 PM

Then there was the time that I was playing with my friend Barb who had a broken arm (we were probably about 8) and I tripped over a tree root, and she stopped to check on me and tripped over the same tree root and conked my head with her cast and knocked me out cold.


I could go on and on. I fall down a lot.